Is this cool as hell, or am I insane?

Insomniak

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I have recently become aware of the Cooler Master Stacker, or as I like to call it, the Zeus of cases.

A few things worth noting:

- This beast has room for 3x120mm fans, 3x80mm fans, and a single crossflow fan which moves about 50 CFM at 2500 RPM. This thing is a wind tunnel. I get all jittery just thinking about it. According to the reviews, it is surprisingly quiet.

- The above configuration is with only ONE power supply installed. This case has mounts for...two...
My brain is starting to do interesting things.


My insane idea is this:

I plan to nab this case, grab a high end, 480w or so PSU (probably Anctec TruPower) to power the 5v/3.3v and juice the mainboard, processor, video, etc.

I also plan to pick up, oh, say, a 300w (again, probably TruPower) PSU solely for the purposes of pushing my HDD, Optical Drive, and Fans.

The 12v rail on the 480 would be completely unused. The 5/3.3v rails on the 300 would be completely unused. Obviously, I will be looking for quality PSUs with high ratings on the rails respective to what they will be powering - that is to say, I'm interested in the TruPower PSUs because each rail is seperate from each other rail.

Is this wasteful? Yes, but EXTREMELY futureproof. Each rail will basically be cranking at it's maximum rating no matter what.

So, thoughts? This, to me, sounds like a stupid-cool thing to do that would just be fun as all hell to toy with. I just hope I don't short my house.

Please post feedback and thoughts. If I'm making a gross mis-calculation, please tell me.
 

BZeto

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It is a cool case. Not very fond of the looks though. Dual PSU's has its perks.
I have seen a lot of watercooling setups in that case and always wondered who made it.
 

syconub

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wow that is an amazing case. It is also spacious so the componants cillhve plenty of room to spread out.
 

stevennoland

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Hell, why stop at two. Get three psu's and have one for the +12 rail, one for the +5 rail and the third for the +3.3 rail. If your really going insane, get three more for the minus rails. Ha Ha!
 

BonzaiDuck

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If I were going to go out an buy a case of any kind -- and I would certainly want something roomy, aluminum and probably in the $100 to $200 range -- it would only be a CoolerMaster Stacker.

I sold, gifted and gave away all my midtower cases -- two 1998 InWin models, two PC Power & Cooling mid-towers (probably the best of the lot), and a CoolerMaster WaveMaster.

It turns out that the full-tower case mods I've made to replace those other cases -- modest by geek and over-clocker standards -- must have been an idea whose time had come, for the Stacker pretty much implemented the essentials of my cooling strategy.

[ . . . which, by the way, has been a rave success -- not a "roaring" success, due to some careful choices of fans, Akasa PaxMate, and ducts. . . ]
 

musclecarman1

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This case looks like crap! The only good thing about it is that it has room for lots of drives and a second power supply. The speaker style grille covering is very tacky as well as the louvers, or whatever you call the holes on the side of the case. Coolermaster's previous models, like the previous 2 years were awesome. Very pricey but awesome. I guess they figure more sales of cheaper and uglier cases will net them more cash.
 

jose

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The stacker is better than both Lian-Li case's. The stacker has better cooling. ie 120mm vs 80mm fans on the 7077 & the V2000B exhast it's hd bay toward the bottom, not good. (hot air rises)

Regards,
Jose
 

Davegod

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Dunno, that first ne mounts one 80mm fan directly above the other, which GREATLY reduces effectiveness.

whats wrong with fans in parallel? :confused:
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Davegod
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Dunno, that first ne mounts one 80mm fan directly above the other, which GREATLY reduces effectiveness.

whats wrong with fans in parallel? :confused:


Hot air rises. Mounting a fan directly above another fan drastically reduces the amount of hot air that fan would be shuttling out of the case if the two fans were, say, next to one another instead of above and below...

This is why the Cooler Master Praetorian's two exhaust fans are 1 blowhole and one upper rear exhaust....it gets better "mileage" so to speak, out of each fan that way.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: Davegod
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Dunno, that first ne mounts one 80mm fan directly above the other, which GREATLY reduces effectiveness.

whats wrong with fans in parallel? :confused:


Hot air rises. Mounting a fan directly above another fan drastically reduces the amount of hot air that fan would be shuttling out of the case if the two fans were, say, next to one another instead of above and below...

This is why the Cooler Master Praetorian's two exhaust fans are 1 blowhole and one upper rear exhaust....it gets better "mileage" so to speak, out of each fan that way.

Oh so im running a chieftec dragon case. Would anything happen if i took out 2 fans (the back and front top fans)?

When i do my upgrade in late 2005 this is the case im going to get unless something really schweet comes out.

That is going to be one MEAN machine. You are going to be in gaming/ OCing heaven. You could always with the PSU's play to their strengths. For one of them get a REALLY REALLY strong 12V rail, and for the oither get REALLY REALLY :p strong 3.3 and 5V rails.

-Kevin
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: Anubis
you are insane the Lian Li PC-7077A Looks better and is just as big if not bigger, better cooling design also, and the Lian Li PC-V2000B is just awsome in every way



Dunno, that first ne mounts one 80mm fan directly above the other, which GREATLY reduces effectiveness.
that 120mm fan at the top rear is there for a reason, hot air rises, and that solves that issue

the second one ia actually a better design, with a 120mm intake blowing directly across the HDDS, the 2 80mm exaust fans above the PSU move out the air and the 120mm fan is DIRECTLY next to the CPU as the mobo is mounted upside down, if you put a fan in one of the 5.25in bays you have aa direct line from intake - CPU - exaust
 

Davegod

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why do people go on about hot air rising, convection, like it's some obscure phenomenom in here? I know tech forums can be patronising at the best of times, but this gets like being told the times tables.

Anyway, I was under the impression the parallel fans increased the draw, useful especially when moderate to slow fans are used, which makes for a better current - and in particular draws it to and then out from the CPU cooler?
 

Cawchy87

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Why would you buy a 480 watt just to run the mobo? Get 2 really good 300 watt psus. And ditch that overpriced ugly case :S
 

fevoldj2

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okay... a lot of people have asked about running two psus... correct me if i'm wrong.. but a lot of new motherboards shut down the PSU in case of an electrical short or error.... so basically it's safer to just have one good PSU... and that's all you really need anyway


EDIT: also the two psu mounts i think are so the case is ready for btx motherboards when they come out becuz their psu is at the bottom
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: Davegod
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Dunno, that first ne mounts one 80mm fan directly above the other, which GREATLY reduces effectiveness.

whats wrong with fans in parallel? :confused:


Hot air rises. Mounting a fan directly above another fan drastically reduces the amount of hot air that fan would be shuttling out of the case if the two fans were, say, next to one another instead of above and below...

This is why the Cooler Master Praetorian's two exhaust fans are 1 blowhole and one upper rear exhaust....it gets better "mileage" so to speak, out of each fan that way.

Oh so im running a chieftec dragon case. Would anything happen if i took out 2 fans (the back and front top fans)?

When i do my upgrade in late 2005 this is the case im going to get unless something really schweet comes out.

That is going to be one MEAN machine. You are going to be in gaming/ OCing heaven. You could always with the PSU's play to their strengths. For one of them get a REALLY REALLY strong 12V rail, and for the oither get REALLY REALLY :p strong 3.3 and 5V rails.

-Kevin


Well, I mean, two fans is always better than one (given that all else reamins equal), but if you can have them arranged other than stacked, it's more effective for cooling.

But if it comes down to it and you can't put them anywhere else, by all means, use all the fan mounts in your case.