Is this backstabbing by a coworker ?

[shilala]

Yup.
Must have been a woman.
A man would expect a beating.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Yes.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

Originally posted by: HotChic
I'm in HR, and the description of the scenario sounds fishy to me. How do you know the two managers strong armed the interviewer into rescinding the offer?

Sounds more like this to me. They had interviews set up with both, expected coworker 1 to be stronger, interviewed him, liked him, extended the verbal offer (which is almost always a contingent offer), interviewed coworker 2 and were surprised at how strong a candidate he was, met up to discuss, preferred candidate 2, rescinded candidate 1's offer and hired candidate 2.

The interviewer wanted to hire the 1st coworker after interviewing the 2nd coworker. But the second talked to the interviewer and asked her to hire her.

yeah so?

Sometimes you think you have the perfect person. then interview someone even better. happens all the time. I do not think it was backstabbing by the co-worker. more like the bosses thought there was someone who was better for the job.

it happens everywhere all the time.

 

[LookingGlass]

Look for another job, find it, don't even give a two week notice.......quit on the spot.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

Originally posted by: HotChic
I'm in HR, and the description of the scenario sounds fishy to me. How do you know the two managers strong armed the interviewer into rescinding the offer?

Sounds more like this to me. They had interviews set up with both, expected coworker 1 to be stronger, interviewed him, liked him, extended the verbal offer (which is almost always a contingent offer), interviewed coworker 2 and were surprised at how strong a candidate he was, met up to discuss, preferred candidate 2, rescinded candidate 1's offer and hired candidate 2.

The interviewer wanted to hire the 1st coworker after interviewing the 2nd coworker. But the second talked to the interviewer and asked her to hire her.

yeah so?

Sometimes you think you have the perfect person. then interview someone even better. happens all the time. I do not think it was backstabbing by the co-worker. more like the bosses thought there was someone who was better for the job.

it happens everywhere all the time.

but don't they stop interviewing people after they offered the position to someone else?😕

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

Originally posted by: HotChic
I'm in HR, and the description of the scenario sounds fishy to me. How do you know the two managers strong armed the interviewer into rescinding the offer?

Sounds more like this to me. They had interviews set up with both, expected coworker 1 to be stronger, interviewed him, liked him, extended the verbal offer (which is almost always a contingent offer), interviewed coworker 2 and were surprised at how strong a candidate he was, met up to discuss, preferred candidate 2, rescinded candidate 1's offer and hired candidate 2.

The interviewer wanted to hire the 1st coworker after interviewing the 2nd coworker. But the second talked to the interviewer and asked her to hire her.

yeah so?

Sometimes you think you have the perfect person. then interview someone even better. happens all the time. I do not think it was backstabbing by the co-worker. more like the bosses thought there was someone who was better for the job.

it happens everywhere all the time.

but don't they stop interviewing people after they offered the position to someone else?😕

As hotchic said it was a contingent offer. And yes sometimes you have interviews lined up that you keep. You never know if you are going to find someone better.

 

[LikeLinus]

Legal or not...that is highly unethical. They should not extend an offer to someone unless they fully intend to hire them. I'd find another job...fast. If the company can't do their job to find the best candidate, before making an offer, that's a pretty crummy company.

Everyone here keeps saying it was an contingent offer. Do anyone of you know what happen in the room? Did the interviewer say "this offer is contingent on the fact that we could find someone else better than you"? I HIGHLY doubt that.

 

[montanafan]

When I read the original post I thought it sounded like backstabbing with wording like "strong arm" and "secretly interviewed", but after reading a little more it sounds more like business as usual in an office.

Here's my impression of what happened now. 1st co-worker has a good interview the interviewer tells him he's the best candidate she's interviewed and looks like you've got the job. Co-worker tells everyone he's got the job. 2nd co-worker hears this and thinks she would've been a better candidate than the 1st co-worker and goes and makes her case to the manager who agrees and then he makes her case to his manager who agrees and they take it to the interviewer and arrange an interview. (It seems to me that if the interviewer had the authority to make the hire herself she would have said the position has been filled and that would have been that, but obviously not, probably why the no paperwork signed statement.) The interviewer still liked the first candidate better but the choice was not hers to make alone and the two managers either overruled or convinced her and she had to tell the 1st co-worker, sorry but we've decided to go with someone else.

It sucks for your friend, but it happens all the time in business. I might agree that something fishy was going on if the OP had said that the 2nd candidate was not at all or much less qualified or experienced for the job, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

 

[maziwanka]

oh HELL YES