Is this as bad as it reads?

[Carmen813]

I'm pretty dead set against voting for Clinton, but am I reading this correctly. It strikes me as fundamentally wrong.


"Next up for the Democrats were precinct caucuses Saturday in Nevada. There, Clinton's supporters awaited a court ruling on a lawsuit seeking a last-minute change in rules they agreed to months ago. Their objective was to prevent several caucuses along the Las Vegas Strip, where thousands of Culinary Workers Union employees ? many of them Hispanic or black ? hold jobs.

The rules were approved in March, when the former first lady was the overwhelming national front-runner in the race. But the union voted last week to endorse Obama, and the lawsuit followed."

Taken from Yahoo via AP.

It's near the bottom.


*EDIT*
Link updated.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I don't understand why so many people still can't see that the emperor wears no clothes.

 

[shiner]

I've been saying it over and over and over till I'm just about sick of hearing it myself....but here goes.

If you think GWB is a bad President just wait till Hillary gets elected.

 

[techs]

Is this as bad as it reads?

No. Especially since your link does not mention this at all.
Anyways, even if true, which you have NO proof of, you CLAIM it was Clinton supporters, not Clinton.

If you really want to know what is fundamentally wrong, look at the Republican attempt to make it difficult for poor people to vote.
That my friend, is truly disgusting.

 

[Pabster]

Yes, yes it is.

Clinton supporters are desperately trying to stop certain parts of the Nevada Caucus. Particularly the ones where Culinary Workers are caucusing.

Originally posted by: shinerburke

If you think GWB is a bad President just wait till Hillary gets elected.

:thumbsup:

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: techs
Is this as bad as it reads?

No. Especially since your link does not mention this at all.
Anyways, even if true, which you have NO proof of, you CLAIM it was Clinton supporters, not Clinton.

If you really want to know what is fundamentally wrong, look at the Republican attempt to make it difficult for poor people to vote.
That my friend, is truly disgusting.

Techs, Techs, Techs....

Google is the answer to most of your questions:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...1/tough-guy-pol-1.html

But the lawsuit, filed by six Nevada Democrats and the Nevada State Education Association teachers' union -- whose deputy executive director, Debbie Cahill, is a member of Clinton?s Nevada Women?s Leadership Council -- seeks to prevent those At-Large Districts from meeting in next Saturday's caucuses.

.......

The lawsuit was filed by the firm Kummer, Kaempfer, Bonner, Renshaw, and Ferrario. Senior partners Michael Bonner and Christian Kaempfer have donated money to Clinton in the past, and Clinton ally and former Rep. James H. Bilbray, D-Nev., is an attorney at that firm.

.......

According to those minutes and attendance records of the obtained by ABC News (Click HERE), four plaintiffs now suing the state party to stop these "at-large" precincts from convening were in attendance: Clark Party Second Vice Chair Vicki Birkland and John Birkland, Party Third Vice Chair Dwayne Chesnut and Clark County Public Administrator John Cahill.

The "Delegation Selection Plan Review and Approval" including these "at-large" precincts was, according to minutes of the meeting reviewed by ABC News, "Passed unanimously." The plan was submitted to the Democratic National Committee for approval in August.

.......

But her allies are responsible for the lawsuit and her response this evening was to say, ?I know about the lawsuit that has been filed and I hope that it can be resolved by the courts and by the state party because obviously we want as many people as possible to be able to participate that is the whole idea.?

It IS as bad as it seems and she is probably as aware of it and as supportive of this as Bush was the Swifties. You remember them don't ya? They were the group that Bush sent out to do his dirty work but left enough breathing room to still claim plausible deny-ability. Is any of this sounding familiar yet?

Your Repub argument, although related in effect, is not related to this particular issue making it a strawman.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: techs
Is this as bad as it reads?

No. Especially since your link does not mention this at all.
Anyways, even if true, which you have NO proof of, you CLAIM it was Clinton supporters, not Clinton.

If you really want to know what is fundamentally wrong, look at the Republican attempt to make it difficult for poor people to vote.
That my friend, is truly disgusting.

The OP link changed to a different article...here's fixed the link to the article.
I'm still waiting for your hero to publicly tell her "alleged" supporters to drop the lawsuit immediately. So far all I hear is crickets.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I've been saying it over and over and over till I'm just about sick of hearing it myself....but here goes.

If you think GWB is a bad President just wait till Hillary gets elected.

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It is virtually impossible to believe Hillary could be as bad as GWB. And if shinerburke wants to make the case that Hillary could be worse, its going to take more than a gut feeling to convince anyone.

Certainly in the case of Bill Clinton, where moral failings did not keep his rocket in his pocket,
did not extend to government itself, when we enjoyed the most scandal free government since Jimmy Carter. And nothing Bill or Hillary did constituted an assault on our constitution.
As I recall only one of Clinton's cabinet appointments betrayed the public trust and that was Espy. And was promptly fired for it by Clinton.

I could start to make the legitimate case against GWB, but this forum does not even have close to the space to start making that case. And we don't even know the half of it yet.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
It is virtually impossible to believe Hillary could be as bad as GWB.

You're right. But it is entirely possible to believe that she could be worse, even from the vantage point of a severely BDS-inflicted sufferer.

 

[FoBoT]

yes, they will all do anything to win, including preventing an open democratic process

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I've been saying it over and over and over till I'm just about sick of hearing it myself....but here goes.

If you think GWB is a bad President just wait till Hillary gets elected.

Riight. You still can't get over that GWB destroyed your party's prospects to win anything for a long time?

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lemon law
It is virtually impossible to believe Hillary could be as bad as GWB.

You're right. But it is entirely possible to believe that she could be worse, even from the vantage point of a severely BDS-inflicted sufferer.

It's also entirely possible to believe that you got nothing but scare tactics, since the GOP has clearly demonstrated it can't govern

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
I've been saying it over and over and over till I'm just about sick of hearing it myself....but here goes.

If you think GWB is a bad President just wait till Hillary gets elected.

And then everyone will see how ridiculously worse Bush was.

That's why everyone, including Republicans, are running on the "change" platform. They know even a monkey would be a million times better.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Oh joy...now we have another Bush bashing thread...who are you people?

Question...should Clinton request the lawsuit be dropped immediately or not? What should she do?

 

[nageov3t]

the crux of the lawsuit seems to be that the teachers union thinks it's unfair that casino workers can vote at their work, while no one else can.

seems like a fair criticism... I'd probably be peeved if I were a teacher or anyone else who had to work long/odd hours.

 

[jonks]

Candidate supporters != the candidate. Regardless of the candidate.
She responded to this Sunday on MTP

Is Huckabee responsible if his supporters bomb an abortion clinic?

thanks

/thread

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: loki8481
the crux of the lawsuit seems to be that the teachers union thinks it's unfair that casino workers can vote at their work, while no one else can.

seems like a fair criticism... I'd probably be peeved if I were a teacher or anyone else who had to work long/odd hours.

Why has there never been an issue before when other workforces were forced to vote at locations that were inconvenient to them?

Every vote that I have placed in an election was either in a church or neighborhood school. I'm guessing when they had the advantage and they were able to have the majority of their members able to vote for the candidate that they were pushing everything was fine. Now that the voting is taking place somewhere they don't have the competitive advantage it is lawsuit time?

This is just a case of crying foul because the rules have changed in a manner that takes away your home-court advantage. Get over it and yourselves.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

This is a very simple question...What should she do?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Hillary Clinton doesn't care about culinary workers.

Why are Hillary supporters afraid of accessible polling stations...surely democracy works at its best when all voters have an opportunity to voice their choice.

Sure, having polling stations on the strip maximizes participation by the Culinary Union, which now works to Obama's favor...I am sure Hillary supporters had no problem with this when she was the clear front runner.

We often hear accusations of Republicans using such tactics to repress certain voter demographics...this story is just one in a string as of late hitting the Clinton campaign.

Riight. You still can't get over that GWB destroyed your party's prospects to win anything for a long time?

GWB is not running in 2008, and the Obama/Hillary feud has given the Republicans plenty of ammunition going into the general election.

The general election is not a lock for the Democrats yet...there may be a moment of peace in the Hillary/Obama contest, but if the race remains close, and the media remains fixated on the Democrats' internal conflict...things could get very interesting.

Have you noticed that Iraq isn't even in the equation anymore?

 

[Mxylplyx]

Originally posted by: techs
Is this as bad as it reads?

No. Especially since your link does not mention this at all.
Anyways, even if true, which you have NO proof of, you CLAIM it was Clinton supporters, not Clinton.

If you really want to know what is fundamentally wrong, look at the Republican attempt to make it difficult for poor people to vote.
That my friend, is truly disgusting.

Man, you are a piece of work. As blindly partisan as it comes.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
This is a very simple question...What should she do?

Why should she do anything? It's a state issue, let them battle it out.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Why are Hillary supporters afraid of accessible polling stations...surely democracy works at its best when all voters have an opportunity to voice their choice.

I thought they wanted more polling places, not less.

granted, I know next to nothing about the whole thing except what I heard in a blurb on CNN as I was getting dressed for work this morning... I neither live in Nevada nor am a registered Democrat in any state, so I'm a pure observer in the D primaries. any support I give a D is purely symbolic at best; I don't really care all that much who wins their primary.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't really care all that much who wins their primary.

Caucus

 

[Starbuck1975]

I thought they wanted more polling places, not less.

The initial dicussion coming out of this lawsuit was to shift polling stations from the Strip to locations more accessible to teachers.

If they want to be fair about it, have an equal number of polling stations both on the Strip and at schools.

But I think the Culinary Union outnumbers the Teacher's Union by a wide margin...so having a huge Culinary Union turnout would secure Nevada for Obama.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't really care all that much who wins their primary.

Caucus

hah.

I meant the overall, grand shebang for the dems.

I'd be just as happy voting for either democratic front runner in a national election over all but one of the republicans.

the only real emotional investment I've had in the primaries is spilling Haterade on the whole Iowa/NH coronation ceremony that happens every cycle, and I'm glad it's been broken this time around.

it's nice to see the candidates having to talk about more than corn to make it to the general election.