Is this a good gaming setup?

[Macboy18]

after hours of researching about different computer components and parts for my new Pc i will be building, i have came up with these specs

please tell me if i am getting ripped off on a certain part, or if there is a better deal on a newer part.

sorry if i'm being a little needy, but this will be my first computer i have custom built. lol

and, for a frame of reference as to the performance i want, i will be playing: COD: MW2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Crysis (on medium-low settings). all with as highest settings as possible for under $850


My Specs:


HD

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/363...t-f3-hd103sj-7200rpm-sata-internal-hard-drive

$60


CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tel-_-19115215

$194


Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/LGA1156-4DDR3-.../dp/B002XDQC4K

$140

RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...es)-_-20145260

$100 ($0 if salvageable from other PCs)


Power supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...air-_-17139005

$89 ($0 if salvageable from old computer)


Blu ray drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3332167&SID=

$59 ($0 if salvageable from computer [DVD/CD]

Case

Alienware Predator 2.0 Black

$170

Graphics Card

Nvidia Geforce GTX 460

$230 (when it comes out)


Total= $1032..... i need it to be under $850-$900



if i swap out the fancy Alienware Case with a $60 Cooler Master, i can lose $110 from the total, but the AW case looks soooo cool and i'd only like to get rid of it if it's absolutely necessary.

i also have a family computer that we only use veryyyyyy rarely (we hate it) and i bet i could persuade my family to let me salvage some parts from it for my little project.

its a Dell Inspiron 531 2007-2008

it has:

4GB RAM (DDR3, i think) -$100

DVD drive (Blu Ray isn't necessary to me, but it'd be nice) -$59

500GB HD -$40

Some low end Nvidia Card (forgot what its called). i could use it as a secondary card though + Free Graphics boost

Power Supply (it doesn't say what type it is, but i'm afraid it's not powerful enough. i'll need about 650Watts) -$100 (pending)

Dell 20" Monitor... always useful for dual monitors with my MacBook Pro screen.


$1032-$300= $732 if i can get those parts. $622 if i swat cases...



your guys' jobs are to find out if i can get an even better price on the parts that i cannot salvage from the Dell computer (processor, motherboard, GPU etc.)




Thanks for all the help!!! =)


i can't wait to start building it....


i've thought about doing this for several months now, but now i'm finally taking the first step.

would you recommend that i order all the parts at once, or do i start with the Case, motherboard and processor etc., put that together, and then order the rest of the stuff?


Thanks again

 

[Patrickz0rs]

Go the AMD route if you want to save more money. There are plenty of cheaper chips that will perform the same or even out perform the i5.

If you like "those kind" of cases, you might want to take a look at what NZXT has to offer. $170 is outrageous IMHO.

 

[MisterDonut]

AMD here. You can probably squeeze out a 955BE + 5850 build for just under that price range. I agree that $170 for a case is preposterous. An Antec 300 is simple, plain, and a 1/3 of the price. What are you re-using? Monitor? Peripherals? OS? I'd fill out that guideline sticky to help a bit more.

 

[Macboy18]

AMD here. You can probably squeeze out a 955BE + 5850 build for just under that price range. I agree that $170 for a case is preposterous. An Antec 300 is simple, plain, and a 1/3 of the price. What are you re-using? Monitor? Peripherals? OS? I'd fill out that guideline sticky to help a bit more.

what is a guideline sticky? sorry, i'm new to this site (and forums in general). someone mentioned them to me before on here.


i have 2 monitors: Dell 20" and my MacBook Pro screen 15"

i don't know what peripherals are (sorry again)

i have a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit and Windows XP Pro SP3 64-bit and Vista Home Premium... so i'm good on the OS part

im also reusing the Hard Drive, DVD drive, RAM, Video card( its a real crappy one, but i can use it as a secondary card to a high end one [GTX 460 when its out]), and maybe the Power supply depending if it has a high enough wattage.

the things that i can't reuse because they aren't powerful enough are: motherboard, video card, processor, and case (the Dell case is really ugly)

 

[busydude]

what is a guideline sticky? sorry, i'm new to this site (and forums in general). someone mentioned them to me before on here.

This.

PLEASE when you POST threads asking for input on system builds tell us...

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?

 

[betasub]

i don't know what peripherals are (sorry again)

Hardware outside the main case, such as (but not limited to) keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, external USB hub, external hard drives/storage.

 

[mfenn]

Didn't you already make a thread on this exact same topic? Why not just update that one. I hope a mod comes by and merges them TBH.

Regarding the build, it looks fine. I personally wouldn't be planning a build around an unreleased GPU that nobody outside of NVIDIA knows the specs or pricing of. If you want to be significantly cheaper, go AMD. Also, I wouldn't salvage my parent's computer as their just going to want to use yours.

 

[Macboy18]

Didn't you already make a thread on this exact same topic? Why not just update that one. I hope a mod comes by and merges them TBH.

Regarding the build, it looks fine. I personally wouldn't be planning a build around an unreleased GPU that nobody outside of NVIDIA knows the specs or pricing of. If you want to be significantly cheaper, go AMD. Also, I wouldn't salvage my parent's computer as their just going to want to use yours.

ok, i'll go with AMD.




i wouldn't count on them wanting to use my PC. all my family have MacBook Pro's so they could be without this PC. we mainly use it for running our Wifi network, but my dad can switch the control to his MBP.

it only gets used about once a month anyway. none of us really like it... hopefully i can turn it into the computer it was supposed to be....


as for the double thread. i posted it twice cuz i was getting really slow responses on the first one. i'm going to leave a link on that one directing towards this one

 

[ModestGamer]

Skip the alien ware case. Needless exspense. If you have temp issues, with a mid range performance rig you better not, then add some fans and case ventilation.

Any good 7200 rpm drive will work fine.

Go with ddr3. We are stuck with that for a few year.

Do get a 890gx chipset board. they allow for dual cards as well as the 790gx chipsets. but the 790 stuff is sort of bandwidth limited for todays cards.

go with whatever graphics card you like in your price range a 5870 ati card might be doable but the gtx460 looks a bit overhyped to me based on all the data on that card out there. Plus the 5870 ati cards overclock easily.

Buy more powersupply then you need. there are a ton of 650w-800w psu's that work great and are cheap.

Stick with a qaud core AMD3 board and CPU and save yourself the grief of marginal performance improvements from intel. the 2.6 and 2.8ghz CPU's can be easily overclocked.

Buy a good air cooler. I like the 2 fan 90mm setups with the big raditing surface.


BTW shopping used is never a bad idea.

check the microcenter website for OEM pulls. they tend to have alot of OEM pulls parts like CPU's etc that are a bargin.

after hours of researching about different computer components and parts for my new Pc i will be building, i have came up with these specs

please tell me if i am getting ripped off on a certain part, or if there is a better deal on a newer part.

sorry if i'm being a little needy, but this will be my first computer i have custom built. lol

and, for a frame of reference as to the performance i want, i will be playing: COD: MW2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Crysis (on medium-low settings). all with as highest settings as possible for under $850


My Specs:


HD

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/363...t-f3-hd103sj-7200rpm-sata-internal-hard-drive

$60


CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tel-_-19115215

$194


Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/LGA1156-4DDR3-.../dp/B002XDQC4K

$140

RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...es)-_-20145260

$100 ($0 if salvageable from other PCs)


Power supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...air-_-17139005

$89 ($0 if salvageable from old computer)


Blu ray drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3332167&SID=

$59 ($0 if salvageable from computer [DVD/CD]

Case

Alienware Predator 2.0 Black

$170

Graphics Card

Nvidia Geforce GTX 460

$230 (when it comes out)


Total= $1032..... i need it to be under $850-$900



if i swap out the fancy Alienware Case with a $60 Cooler Master, i can lose $110 from the total, but the AW case looks soooo cool and i'd only like to get rid of it if it's absolutely necessary.

i also have a family computer that we only use veryyyyyy rarely (we hate it) and i bet i could persuade my family to let me salvage some parts from it for my little project.

its a Dell Inspiron 531 2007-2008

it has:

4GB RAM (DDR3, i think) -$100

DVD drive (Blu Ray isn't necessary to me, but it'd be nice) -$59

500GB HD -$40

Some low end Nvidia Card (forgot what its called). i could use it as a secondary card though + Free Graphics boost

Power Supply (it doesn't say what type it is, but i'm afraid it's not powerful enough. i'll need about 650Watts) -$100 (pending)

Dell 20" Monitor... always useful for dual monitors with my MacBook Pro screen.


$1032-$300= $732 if i can get those parts. $622 if i swat cases...



your guys' jobs are to find out if i can get an even better price on the parts that i cannot salvage from the Dell computer (processor, motherboard, GPU etc.)




Thanks for all the help!!! =)


i can't wait to start building it....


i've thought about doing this for several months now, but now i'm finally taking the first step.

would you recommend that i order all the parts at once, or do i start with the Case, motherboard and processor etc., put that together, and then order the rest of the stuff?


Thanks again

 

[Reincus]

i don't know what peripherals are (sorry again)

Not trying to be a jerk, but do you REALLY think building your own PC is a great idea? I'm concerned that you have a knowledge deficiency that may make putting the PC together more difficult then it needs to be and may lead to co$tly mistakes.

Do you have a friend or family member that can help you put everything together? Building a PC is a great learning experience but it can be very frustrating if and when things don't go according to plan, even more so as a novice because you may not know how to fix it.

And with a handle like Macboy, Steve Jobs would die a little inside if you knew what you were up to.

 

[Macboy18]

Not trying to be a jerk, but do you REALLY think building your own PC is a great idea? I'm concerned that you have a knowledge deficiency that may make putting the PC together more difficult then it needs to be and may lead to co$tly mistakes.

Do you have a friend or family member that can help you put everything together? Building a PC is a great learning experience but it can be very frustrating if and when things don't go according to plan, even more so as a novice because you may not know how to fix it.

And with a handle like Macboy, Steve Jobs would die a little inside if you knew what you were up to.

sorry, but there is a start to everything. just give me a chance to learn about it. not all of us are born knowing everything about computers. and, yes, i do have a family member who uses computers most of the day everyday. he can help me if i need him.


and i do know what mice, keyboard speakers etc. are, but i have never before heard the word "Peripherals" used to define them.

 

[Reincus]

sorry, but there is a start to everything. just give me a chance to learn about it. not all of us are born knowing everything about computers. and, yes, i do have a family member who uses computers most of the day everyday. he can help me if i need him.


and i do know what mice, keyboard speakers etc. are, but i have never before heard the word "Peripherals" used to define them.

I get it, I really do. We all start somewhere. The best place to learn, if you have the chance, is from someone elses build, where you can ask questions and see what is going on. What raised the flag for me is that you asked what peripherals instead of just looking it up yourself. Simply typing 'What is a peripheral' into Google would have yeilded an answer quickly, much quicker than asking on here.

In any case, the advise you are getting here is excellent, the components should serve you well. I would suggest hitting up youtube and searching for videos on how to assemble a computer prior to starting so you can see how everything goes together and take note of common pitfalls. Cable management is especially difficult to learn as a novice, because you are so anxious to get it done you may not take the time to do it right.

 

[Macboy18]

I get it, I really do. We all start somewhere. The best place to learn, if you have the chance, is from someone elses build, where you can ask questions and see what is going on. What raised the flag for me is that you asked what peripherals instead of just looking it up yourself. Simply typing 'What is a peripheral' into Google would have yeilded an answer quickly, much quicker than asking on here.

In any case, the advise you are getting here is excellent, the components should serve you well. I would suggest hitting up youtube and searching for videos on how to assemble a computer prior to starting so you can see how everything goes together and take note of common pitfalls. Cable management is especially difficult to learn as a novice, because you are so anxious to get it done you may not take the time to do it right.

yeah... i just hate looking stuff up on google because half of the links are just filled with garbage and ads. you have to really dig deep to find out what the hell the word you're looking up means.

thanks for the advice. i'll look at some video's.

my work here is done.






*THREAD CLOSED*



i will post back on this thread once i have completed the machine.




Thank you very much to all who have helped me and corrected the many mistakes i have made.

 

[MisterDonut]

Just to throw in a little something to what ModestGamer posted. You can opt for either chipset, and personally, I'd just get what's cheaper. You shouldn't need multiple GPU cards anyways. A 5870 won't fit into that budget unless you find a smackin good deal on a used one, so just shoot for the 5850. A 955BE build + 5850 should fit nicely. You really should just get enough power supply, you'll never max it out anyways. Something around 550-600 should do well, and always, always go with a trusted manufacturer. The Hyper 212+ is the best aircooler for the price (around $24-25 on a good deal). Honestly though, if you opt for the 955BE, leaving it stock is perfectly fine. I've played with one before, and it's not an easy chip to play with. I think AT has had the same frustrations . I was able to bump it up to 3.6 without adjusting voltage though. Plenty fast.