Is this a good deal?

[Salil]

do i need to use windows vista 64 bit with i7? or can I use windows xp 64 bit? can i play games on a 3 gb 64 bit windows vista?

 

[Blain]

It appears that the upcoming Windows 7 will be a good solid OS.
For now Vista or XP 64-bit will work fine with Core i7.

 

[us3rnotfound]

Purchase a good Alienware PC.

 

[Salil]

Would it be possible to run games at a decent framerate in Vista with just 3GB of ram? I believe Vista itself takes 1 GB?

 

[dangman4ever]

Yes 3GB of RAM is more than enough for gaming in Vista.

 

[Salil]

Hello Friends,
Here is a wish list I put together on newegg. The cost is more than the i7 rig I mentioned in an earlier post that cyberpowerpc is offering to build minus the freebies they are giving. I can save a $100 by going for a cheaper PSU. Is that something I must do. Or should I just order from cyberpowerpc. How are they able to offer a cheaper solution that a custom build one?

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply --- $179.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case --- $74.99
1 LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 --- $21.99
1 G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-3GBNQ --- $109.99
1 MSI X58 Platinum LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard --- $220.99
1 Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz LGA 1366 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 --- $299.99
1 EVGA 896-P3-1265-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card --- $249.99
1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive --- $59.9

Total Cost : $1,267.91

 

[Blain]

This thread has been going a week now. But something already and be done with it. :roll:

 

[MarcVenice]

Sad thing is, a e8500/e8600 with 4gb ddr2 will outperform the i920 and 3gb, if everything is kept at stock.

Even sadder is the fact you could buy a e8400, 4gb of ddr2, p45 mobo and a HD4870X2 and it will completely destroy above mentioned PC. Your loss.

 

[Salil]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Sad thing is, a e8500/e8600 with 4gb ddr2 will outperform the i920 and 3gb, if everything is kept at stock.

Even sadder is the fact you could buy a e8400, 4gb of ddr2, p45 mobo and a HD4870X2 and it will completely destroy above mentioned PC. Your loss.

I agree with you. yes but I want to future proof myself. if I go for e8400 the next line of processors will make me buy a new motherboard, RAM etc. Also any comments as to how cyberpowerpc is able to build a pc cheaper than we can custom build?

 

[Kraeoss]

technically if you do build a 775 based rig then by the time it's obsolete the i7 tech will be much cheaper (hopefully) so inevitably u will have to upgrade but u'd still come out on the better side of the deal.


that's just my $0.02 c

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: Salil
...I want to future proof myself.

There is no such thing as "future proof". Terms like that are only used by, well... :roll:

Buy what you can afford Today and enjoy your rig!

 

[MarcVenice]

Originally posted by: Kraeoss
technically if you do build a 775 based rig then by the time it's obsolete the i7 tech will be much cheaper (hopefully) so inevitably u will have to upgrade but u'd still come out on the better side of the deal.


that's just my $0.02 c

QFT.

You also seem to be unable to understand the fact that at stock speeds a e8500 is going to outperform a i920 in most if not all gaming applications. When it comes to gaming, it's pretty much all about the videocard. My e7300 @ 3.8ghz and dual HD4850's will provide better framerates then you i920 and gtx260, for half the price. Does that make sense ? It's called diminishing returns.

 

[Salil]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice

Originally posted by: Kraeoss
technically if you do build a 775 based rig then by the time it's obsolete the i7 tech will be much cheaper (hopefully) so inevitably u will have to upgrade but u'd still come out on the better side of the deal.


that's just my $0.02 c

QFT.

You also seem to be unable to understand the fact that at stock speeds a e8500 is going to outperform a i920 in most if not all gaming applications. When it comes to gaming, it's pretty much all about the videocard. My e7300 @ 3.8ghz and dual HD4850's will provide better framerates then you i920 and gtx260, for half the price. Does that make sense ? It's called diminishing returns.

this is something i must look into

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: Blain
There is no such thing as "future proof". Terms like that are only used by, well... :roll:

Insurance reps? Embalmers?

Buy what you can afford Today and enjoy your rig!

:thumbsup:

 

[Salil]

Originally posted by: Kraeoss
technically if you do build a 775 based rig then by the time it's obsolete the i7 tech will be much cheaper (hopefully) so inevitably u will have to upgrade but u'd still come out on the better side of the deal.


that's just my $0.02 c


QFT.

You also seem to be unable to understand the fact that at stock speeds a e8500 is going to outperform a i920 in most if not all gaming applications. When it comes to gaming, it's pretty much all about the videocard. My e7300 @ 3.8ghz and dual HD4850's will provide better framerates then you i920 and gtx260, for half the price. Does that make sense ? It's called diminishing returns.

funny, tomshardware seems to have mentioned the exact configuration you suggested in their system builder marathon, marcvenice.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...overclocking,2083.html
This is the new build I think i will be going for:
e8500 build:
ASUS P5Q SE PLUS LGA 775
Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard $96.99
SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card $489.99Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500 $187.99G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - $44.99

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Salil
Originally posted by: Kraeoss
technically if you do build a 775 based rig then by the time it's obsolete the i7 tech will be much cheaper (hopefully) so inevitably u will have to upgrade but u'd still come out on the better side of the deal.


that's just my $0.02 c


QFT.

You also seem to be unable to understand the fact that at stock speeds a e8500 is going to outperform a i920 in most if not all gaming applications. When it comes to gaming, it's pretty much all about the videocard. My e7300 @ 3.8ghz and dual HD4850's will provide better framerates then you i920 and gtx260, for half the price. Does that make sense ? It's called diminishing returns.

funny, tomshardware seems to have mentioned the exact configuration you suggested in their system builder marathon, marcvenice.
http://www.tomshardware.com/re...overclocking,2083.html
This is the new build I think i will be going for:
e8500 build:
ASUS P5Q SE PLUS LGA 775
Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard $96.99
SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card $489.99Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500 $187.99G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - $44.99

This is a pretty good rig though I'd reconsider the Video card. Get either an HD4870 or a GTX 260

don't forget to buy an HDD. I'd get something in the <$120 range.

 

[Salil]

I am gonna get the same HDD as in the i7 configuration. Why do you think i should reconsider the video card.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

diminishing returns.

You can get a better vid card a year down the road when you need the power.

I have a GTX280 but that's cos I got a deal >_> on it.

 

[Salil]

but a year down the road there would still be same situation where I can get a better vid card another year down the line.

 

[MarcVenice]

But salil, you can buy a videocard right now that offers 90% of the performance of the top-end videocard, for like 60-70% of the price. You can do the same in a year. That's the diminishing returns I'm talking about, you pay a price premium to have the latest and fastest, but if you take a VERY SMALL step backwards performance wise, you save a lot of money, whilst sacrificing very little performance.

Also, I rarely read Tom's Hardware ( no time hehe ) so it's pure coincidence. I do give out a lot of advice though, so maybe that's why

 

[Salil]

ok. ya that makes sense. i did wonder if the HD 4870X2 was worth the money? Most reviews say it is worth the premium. It is faster than the GTX 280. Maybe the best thing to do would be to go for a Q9770 and a GTX 260 216.

 

[Salil]

Heres a bummer. It seems that because I will have to connect my computer to my Samsung 46" LCD, I will have to buy a Logitech g7 wireless mouse for $72. Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative. I just want a mouse that doesn't lag too much. i don't care a lot for buttons or dpi.

 

[Blain]

Why does your monitor effect what mouse you buy? :roll:

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Honestly man, this hardware is all going to be obsolete by the time you make a decision at this rate Just buy something already. And stop worrying about bleeding edge performance or a future proof build. Bleeding edge isn't worth it and a future proof build isn't possible.

Oh, and while most all of use here are glad to help it's nice when people try to do a little research on their own. Just a thought..

For my money, I'd go Dual Core instead of Quad. Unless you're doing video encoding, folding, complex mathematical calculations, etc. then the Quad is just a waste. A E8400 will be more then enough for gaming.

 

[Salil]

Originally posted by: Blain
Why does your monitor effect what mouse you buy? :roll:

bigger monitor ---> longer distance ---> wireless mouse ---> need to buy mouse with no lag and long range