Dude as much of fool I think you may be for saying yes, if you really would do something that extreme for her you've earned my respect. I didnt mean any disrespect at all with that scenario. Would you kill for her too?
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I believe that love of Jesus is unconditional.
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YAY! A dead guy wuvs me....
amish
sheesh, pretty strong words for someone who "claims" that he and his wife love each other unconditionally. (major rolls eyes). ya right. it would be easier for me to believe that a Jesus exists than to believe that you love your wife unconditionally.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
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I believe that love of Jesus is unconditional.
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YAY! A dead guy wuvs me....
amish
sheesh, pretty strong words for someone who "claims" that he and his wife love each other unconditionally. (major rolls eyes). ya right. it would be easier for me to believe that a Jesus exists than to believe that you love your wife unconditionally.
Yeah, I know some mythic "saviour" wins out over 10 years of marriage which included 8 years of chronic illness, a bankruptcy, and a suicide attempt.
Believe what you will....
True love/finding your soul-mate is pretty sweet.
amish
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I believe that love of Jesus is unconditional.
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YAY! A dead guy wuvs me....
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sheesh, pretty strong words for someone who "claims" that he and his wife love each other unconditionally. (major rolls eyes). ya right. it would be easier for me to believe that a Jesus exists than to believe that you love your wife unconditionally.
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Yeah, I know some mythic "saviour" wins out over 10 years of marriage which included 8 years of chronic illness, a bankruptcy, and a suicide attempt.
Believe what you will....
amish
Nope mythic savior wins out over your claims. i don't know anything else about you and i don't need to know. i know human nature and i know that all of us are basically the same, no matter how we try to claim that we are individuals.
Originally posted by: bmacd
<sarcasm> and we all know what a genius he was</sarcasm>
-=bmacd=-
he was awesome in my book. NO sarcasm.
I think it's asymtotal in it's behavior, and I think it can get pretty darn close...but obviously, there might be some extreme conditions.
Originally posted by: fastz28
Yep, from my dog.
Yes, and that's the only kind of unconditional love there is. You can do anything you want to that dog and it will still love you and never leave you. You cannot say that about any human.
Well, when I married my husband, it was on the conditions that I:
Quit smoking (OK, I wanted to anyway)
Quit listening to secular music
Burn anything having to do with my past
Accept his family's religious beliefs and consider them superior to my family
Dress the way he thought I should
Not study or think about anything considered taboo in the Bible
Never drink alcohol (not a big deal, but even a toast at my sister's wedding???)
It was a mistake, a huge mistake. But you know why I made it?
Because I hadn't learned to love MYSELF unconditionally yet.
Quit smoking (OK, I wanted to anyway)
Quit listening to secular music
Burn anything having to do with my past
Accept his family's religious beliefs and consider them superior to my family
Dress the way he thought I should
Not study or think about anything considered taboo in the Bible
Never drink alcohol (not a big deal, but even a toast at my sister's wedding???)
It was a mistake, a huge mistake. But you know why I made it?
Because I hadn't learned to love MYSELF unconditionally yet.
I haven't read this thread but if any of you aren't adamently against the bible.. I am not talking about a religion in particular but just the bible.. try reading 1 Corinthians 13... the entire chapter is about love.. and I agree with it so check it out..
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Still not feeling better, eh Jeff?
Is there such a thing? Christ, yes!
Is it something we can have? Not on our own, given our flaws. We're incapable of loving perfectly, unconditionally, no matter what our desires are. Unless you're willing to confess yourself perfect, your love will be tainted.
Have to recieve perfect love before you can give perfect love.
Realistically, can we attain unconditional love? Hmm, I can just say that I wouldn't want to be with anyone who wasn't putting their whole heart and soul into that as their goal, with the aforementioned qualifiers.
OMG, I'm so sorry...
PLEASE tell me you're not still with him?!?!?!
{{{{{{{{Big Brotherly Hug}}}}}}}}}
Grasshopper
Moonbeam, I got interested in your post and decided to see if I could find any reference to your mystery hugger, since you yourself didn't know any more than some fragment of a memory of some rumor. I think I found her:
Mata Amritanandamayi Devi Math
By Sreekumraran N
?Amma is in Delhi?, proclaim posters and banners all over the city. Mata Amritanandamayi, is ?Amma? (Divine Mother) to millions of people around the world. ?An unbroken stream of Love flows from Me towards all beings in the cosmos?, That is My in-born nature,? avows Amma.
Amma has personally counseled and consoled millions of people from every corner of the globe. She wipes the tears of those in distress with her own hands. Her personal touch, warmth, compassion and deep concern for the sorrow and burden of others leave everyone, who visits her, struck by her unique spiritual charisma.
Amma devotes her life to the benefit of suffering humanity. She sends across her message of love through devotional songs, through simple lively talks replete with vivid illustrations and striking examples and through the example of her own life.
It is said that Amma was born into this world with a beaming smile on her face as if to prophesize the joy and bliss she was to bring to this world. Named Sudhamani by her parents, Amma?s childhood was different from the other children?s. Even as a small child, she was found absorbed in deep meditation, totally oblivious of her surroundings. Her love for the Lord grew as time passed.
In Sudhamani?s eye, Lord Krishna pervaded the whole Universe. In her teens, she entered into a profound mystical union with her Lord, the oneness so effectual that she could no longer distinguish between Lord Krishna and herself.
On another day, she had a glorious vision of the Divine Mother of the Universe. The experience was followed by an unending state of God-intoxication of such intensity that day and night she was overwhelmed with yearning for union with the Divine Mother. She practiced a very rigorous and austere spiritual practice for months together. Her sadhana (spiritual practices) culminated in the total dissolution of her personal self into the Divine Mother of the Universe.
In one of her devotional songs, she portrays her experience as ?Smiling, the Divine Mother became a mass of effulgence and merged in Me. My mind blossomed and was bathed in the many-hued light of divinity. Thenceforth, I saw nothing as apart from my own self?. The entire Universe exists as a tiny bubble within myself. Sudhamani experienced that all forms of God are manifestations of the one Atman.?
Amma has been travelling in different parts of the world to spread the message of love and spirituality. She has led thousands of spiritual yagnas around the globe. Every year she visits around 20 countries.
In 1993, she addressed the Parliament of World?s Religions held in Chicago. She was elected as one of the Presidents of assembly of global religions. In the same year ?Hinduism Today?, an international journal on Indian culture, conferred the ?Hindu Renaissance? Award to Amma. In 1995, Amma was invited to speak at the Interfaith Celebrations in New York to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the United Nations.
Mata Amritanandamayi Devi Math
By Sreekumraran N
?Amma is in Delhi?, proclaim posters and banners all over the city. Mata Amritanandamayi, is ?Amma? (Divine Mother) to millions of people around the world. ?An unbroken stream of Love flows from Me towards all beings in the cosmos?, That is My in-born nature,? avows Amma.
Amma has personally counseled and consoled millions of people from every corner of the globe. She wipes the tears of those in distress with her own hands. Her personal touch, warmth, compassion and deep concern for the sorrow and burden of others leave everyone, who visits her, struck by her unique spiritual charisma.
Amma devotes her life to the benefit of suffering humanity. She sends across her message of love through devotional songs, through simple lively talks replete with vivid illustrations and striking examples and through the example of her own life.
It is said that Amma was born into this world with a beaming smile on her face as if to prophesize the joy and bliss she was to bring to this world. Named Sudhamani by her parents, Amma?s childhood was different from the other children?s. Even as a small child, she was found absorbed in deep meditation, totally oblivious of her surroundings. Her love for the Lord grew as time passed.
In Sudhamani?s eye, Lord Krishna pervaded the whole Universe. In her teens, she entered into a profound mystical union with her Lord, the oneness so effectual that she could no longer distinguish between Lord Krishna and herself.
On another day, she had a glorious vision of the Divine Mother of the Universe. The experience was followed by an unending state of God-intoxication of such intensity that day and night she was overwhelmed with yearning for union with the Divine Mother. She practiced a very rigorous and austere spiritual practice for months together. Her sadhana (spiritual practices) culminated in the total dissolution of her personal self into the Divine Mother of the Universe.
In one of her devotional songs, she portrays her experience as ?Smiling, the Divine Mother became a mass of effulgence and merged in Me. My mind blossomed and was bathed in the many-hued light of divinity. Thenceforth, I saw nothing as apart from my own self?. The entire Universe exists as a tiny bubble within myself. Sudhamani experienced that all forms of God are manifestations of the one Atman.?
Amma has been travelling in different parts of the world to spread the message of love and spirituality. She has led thousands of spiritual yagnas around the globe. Every year she visits around 20 countries.
In 1993, she addressed the Parliament of World?s Religions held in Chicago. She was elected as one of the Presidents of assembly of global religions. In the same year ?Hinduism Today?, an international journal on Indian culture, conferred the ?Hindu Renaissance? Award to Amma. In 1995, Amma was invited to speak at the Interfaith Celebrations in New York to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the United Nations.
Originally posted by: grasshopper26
OMG, I'm so sorry...
PLEASE tell me you're not still with him?!?!?!
{{{{{{{{Big Brotherly Hug}}}}}}}}}
Grasshopper
Yeah, but it's OK.
Imagine his surprise and dismay when I couldn't stick to the agreement! I promised him something that I couldn't deliver over time. He got burned just as bad as I did, but in a different way. I misrepresented myself to him... I made him believe I could be something I wasn't... I should have known there was no way I could keep it up. I knocked over most of those 'rules' by our fourth year of marriage, and now we are working on the real issues. It's been 10 years now. I hope that if we stay together 10 more, those will be my good memories.
I know unconditional love for my children, and for my husband I know love as being equal to committment.
Love is what you make it, is my guess.
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