Is there such thing as being mathamatically disabled?

[Mr. Lennon]

My whole life I struggled through math with the bare minimum passing grade. I can't even begin to understand past the most basic math. Hell I cant even do long division now.

Its not like I see the problem and just give up....I have had numerous tutors through out my life. I really gave it my all until I finally passed the lowest high school math class that allowed me to graduate. I received a D in there, but only because I had a friend from wrestling (he was my TA) boost the grade.

I have tried soo many study techniques and regardless of how I try, my brain just cant understand or keep it in memory for long. Also suffering from ADD doesn't help one bit either.

What is really weird is that I know tons of songs and solos on my guitar, plus all different scales, chords and some theory. I graduated high school with a 3.2 and I'm about to go on to a 4 year college with a GPA of 3.0. How I'm so brain dead when it comes to math...no clue.

The problem I'm facing now is in community college. I of course was placed in the 2nd to lowest math class (lowest being some ESL level class). In order to go on to a four year, I have to take two no credit math classes, and then the final math class that completes the requirement. That is 3 whole semesters of math classes that I know will be impossible to pass. I am reaching the end of my career at this community college with only one speech class and the 3 math classes left.

Is there any way I can speak to a doctor who can run tests and inform my college of this "disability" or am I just screwed?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Form of dyslexia?

 

[darkxshade]

Well I'm thinking either you can add or you got ADD

 

[clamum]

Damn, you know it's bad when a wrestler has to boost your grade.

 

[ICRS]

Edit: I appologize if my comment seemed insensitive.

 

[CrazyLazy]

I believe the medical word for it laziness. To be serious though I am sure there is some rare condition out there that makes you bad at math. But ask yourself which is more likely, that you have a rare mental disorder, or you just don't pay enough attention in class? I sympathize with your situation though, I can get by in math but absolutely hate it which results in me getting a lower grade then I probably should. This doesn't mean I have a mathematical disease though.

 

[Evadman]

Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
My whole life I struggled through math with the bare minimum passing grade. I can't even begin to understand past the most basic math. Hell I cant even do long division now.

Well, I don't know if this will encourage you or discourage you, but I have worked with or known some of the most talented mathematicians in the nation, and quite a few them are probably no faster or better at long division (or multiplication, or mental addition) than your average grade school student.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

I had some honors/ AP non math classes in high school. I'm far from lazy. Having ADD makes it 10x harder to learn, and since I can't take the medication due to various side effects, I have had to deal with it my whole life. Someone with ADD can come off as lazy because its simply 10x harder to learn when compared to a normal person, so they just give up.

 

[Evadman]

Perhaps this will help.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Perhaps this will help.

I'd tap the two on the right. Thats judging from behind....

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Perhaps this will help.

Mmmmm... Maxwell's Equations.

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

Ahahahahh... Yeah sure. You're just so precious.

 

[ICRS]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

I had some honors/ AP non math classes in high school. I'm far from lazy. Having ADD makes it 10x harder to learn, and since I can't take the medication due to various side effects, I have had to deal with it my whole life. Someone with ADD can come off as lazy because its simply 10x harder to learn when compared to a normal person, so they just give up.

Have you taken the IVA+Plus test, or the TOVA test.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

I had some honors/ AP non math classes in high school. I'm far from lazy. Having ADD makes it 10x harder to learn, and since I can't take the medication due to various side effects, I have had to deal with it my whole life. Someone with ADD can come off as lazy because its simply 10x harder to learn when compared to a normal person, so they just give up.

do not feed this troll. ICRS is just another E= and/or casio.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

I had some honors/ AP non math classes in high school. I'm far from lazy. Having ADD makes it 10x harder to learn, and since I can't take the medication due to various side effects, I have had to deal with it my whole life. Someone with ADD can come off as lazy because its simply 10x harder to learn when compared to a normal person, so they just give up.

do not feed this troll. ICRS is just another E= and/or casio.

Pffft.. They're old news. Arcadio is where it's at now! Damn those umans for anthropomorphizing animals!

 

[BoomerD]

I don't grasp "higher math" either. I took my last algebra class in 1968...
When I applied for my community college, I had to take aptitude/placement tests, and I scored for "beginning Algebra", but there's no chance I could have ever passed that. 2a+3b=4c? WTF is that? I do fine with "regular math", and even grasp percentages and fractions, (for the most part anyway) but algebra never did make any sense to me.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: ICRS
ADD isn't real. It is another name for being LAZY.

I had some honors/ AP non math classes in high school. I'm far from lazy. Having ADD makes it 10x harder to learn, and since I can't take the medication due to various side effects, I have had to deal with it my whole life. Someone with ADD can come off as lazy because its simply 10x harder to learn when compared to a normal person, so they just give up.

do not feed this troll. ICRS is just another E= and/or casio.

Pffft.. They're old news. Arcadio is where it's at now! Damn those umans for anthropomorphizing animals!

we are gaining faster than we are losing.....

 

[ICRS]

I am sure some people have something like ADD, but I have seen to many people who are simply lazy use ADD as an excuse.


Back to the OP. How are you with logic games, or logic puzzles. Questions like

An athlete has six trophies to place on an empty three-shelf display case. The six trophies are bowling trophies F, G, and H and tennis trophies J, K, and L. The three shelves of the display case are labeled 1 to 3 from top to bottom. Any of the shelves can remain empty. The athlete's placement of trophies must conform to the following conditions:

J and L cannot be on the same shelf.
F must be on the shelf immediately above the shelf that L is on.
No single shelf can hold all three bowling trophies
K cannot be on Shelf 2.
Questions
1. If G and H are on Shelf 2, which of the following must be true?

a. K is on Shelf 1.
b. L is on Shelf 2.
c. J is on Shelf 3.
d. G and J are on the same shelf.
e. F and K are on the same shelf.

I am sorry to OP if my comment sounded insensitive. If you need any help on any math problem feel free to ask. I actually do have a degree in mathematics.

 

[George P Burdell]

Time to learn a new word, boys and girls: Acalculia

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: ICRS
I am sure some people have something like ADD, but I have seen to many people who are simply lazy use ADD as an excuse.


Back to the OP. How are you with logic games, or logic puzzles. Questions like

An athlete has six trophies to place on an empty three-shelf display case. The six trophies are bowling trophies F, G, and H and tennis trophies J, K, and L. The three shelves of the display case are labeled 1 to 3 from top to bottom. Any of the shelves can remain empty. The athlete's placement of trophies must conform to the following conditions:

J and L cannot be on the same shelf.
F must be on the shelf immediately above the shelf that L is on.
No single shelf can hold all three bowling trophies
K cannot be on Shelf 2.
Questions
1. If G and H are on Shelf 2, which of the following must be true?

a. K is on Shelf 1.
b. L is on Shelf 2.
c. J is on Shelf 3.
d. G and J are on the same shelf.
e. F and K are on the same shelf.
Q]

Throw all the trophies in the dammed garbage, use the shelves for important stuff like video games , toys/models, and important books, like Windows 95 for Dummies.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell
Time to learn a new word, boys and girls: Acalculia

Having no idea what that meant, I Googled it and read the symptoms for both that and Dyscalculia. Freakin' story of my life.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: ICRS
I am sure some people have something like ADD, but I have seen to many people who are simply lazy use ADD as an excuse.


Back to the OP. How are you with logic games, or logic puzzles. Questions like

An athlete has six trophies to place on an empty three-shelf display case. The six trophies are bowling trophies F, G, and H and tennis trophies J, K, and L. The three shelves of the display case are labeled 1 to 3 from top to bottom. Any of the shelves can remain empty. The athlete's placement of trophies must conform to the following conditions:

J and L cannot be on the same shelf.
F must be on the shelf immediately above the shelf that L is on.
No single shelf can hold all three bowling trophies
K cannot be on Shelf 2.
Questions
1. If G and H are on Shelf 2, which of the following must be true?

a. K is on Shelf 1.
b. L is on Shelf 2.
c. J is on Shelf 3.
d. G and J are on the same shelf.
e. F and K are on the same shelf.

I am sorry to OP if my comment sounded insensitive. If you need any help on any math problem feel free to ask. I actually do have a degree in mathematics.

I had many tests done in elementary school which all concluded that I have ADD and some learning disabilities. It was awhile ago so I don't remember which tests, I'm sure my parents would.

I really tried hard to solve that problem. It just made my head hurt

 

[Locut0s]

I think calling it a true disability would be going a bit far however I would not be surprised at all if the reason for your problem with math stems from the ADD. As long as you genuinely suffer from ADD, I'm not insensitive it's just that ADD has got to be one of the most over diagnosed conditions right now. Math requires long periods of quiet careful contemplation and the ability to mentally visualize and manipulate quantities, equations and the like and see the necessary links between different aspects of a problem. This requires for one thing a relatively quite and focused mind. Sounds like the complete opposite of ADD.

Having said this though don't take your problems with simple math skills as a sign that you may be no good at math. I love math and did several college level math courses and got good grades but too this day I'm no wiz at simple arithmetic. I see people all the time who can add multiply and divide WAY faster and more accurately than I can. Give me some calculus or combinatoric though and I'm more at home.

 

[ICRS]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: ICRS
I am sure some people have something like ADD, but I have seen to many people who are simply lazy use ADD as an excuse.


Back to the OP. How are you with logic games, or logic puzzles. Questions like

An athlete has six trophies to place on an empty three-shelf display case. The six trophies are bowling trophies F, G, and H and tennis trophies J, K, and L. The three shelves of the display case are labeled 1 to 3 from top to bottom. Any of the shelves can remain empty. The athlete's placement of trophies must conform to the following conditions:

J and L cannot be on the same shelf.
F must be on the shelf immediately above the shelf that L is on.
No single shelf can hold all three bowling trophies
K cannot be on Shelf 2.
Questions
1. If G and H are on Shelf 2, which of the following must be true?

a. K is on Shelf 1.
b. L is on Shelf 2.
c. J is on Shelf 3.
d. G and J are on the same shelf.
e. F and K are on the same shelf.

I am sorry to OP if my comment sounded insensitive. If you need any help on any math problem feel free to ask. I actually do have a degree in mathematics.

I had many tests done in elementary school which all concluded that I have ADD and some learning disabilities. It was awhile ago so I don't remember which tests, I'm sure my parents would.

I really tried hard to solve that problem. It just made my head hurt

Here is a
for trying. (the answer is b. L is on shelf 2)

You know anyone really good at math. My cousin was like you, always found math very difficult. So he had me "help" him on his homework and take home quizes.

 

[XxPrOdiGyxX]

my diagnosis is a chronic case of stupid.