Is there such thing as a washer and dryer in one unit?

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Eli
if your dryer dies, you're fucked.

Hang dry? I do it all the time.

I always hang dry my clothes when possible. It doesn't work so well in the rain or winter though.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
yes, they have them, and they never get your clothes dry.

A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours

that's not convenience right there.

A standard set takes between 90 and 120 minutes to wash and dry, and you have to be there to switch it. The convenience of starting it before you leave for work or going out would be great.

 

[Argo]

I had one in my first apartment after college. It was convinient, but the dryer in the combo unit kinda sucked. The cloth would always come out sort of crumbled.

 

[nobody554]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: ironwing
I just throw the dirty clothes in the basket in the bathroom and they reappear in my closet...clean! :shocked:

I would consider worshiping the deity who could cause that to happen...

Mother/Wife/Loving Girlfriend

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: lxskllr
That's a horrible idea. If 1 half breaks, you have to replace the whole thing.

That's true with most things. Car, tv, dishwasher...

Not at twice the cost. It's more like your car dies, and you replace the motorcycle too.

Who said anything about twice the price?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
yes, they have them, and they never get your clothes dry.

A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours

that's not convenience right there.

Because, your life is so hectic you need a dozen changes of clothes in an hour or less? You know the beauty of having a washer and dryer at home is you can run a load anytime including while you sleep.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: lxskllr
That's a horrible idea. If 1 half breaks, you have to replace the whole thing.

That's true with most things. Car, tv, dishwasher...

Not at twice the cost. It's more like your car dies, and you replace the motorcycle too.

Who said anything about twice the price?

A washer costs $x, and a dryer costs $x. If one goes up on a combined unit, you have to buy both at 2*$x. If one goes up on separate units, you buy 1 at 1*$x.

 

[bob4432]

my wife's aunt/uncle had one in their motorhome. not sure how well it worked but the idea was pretty cool

 

[drdops]

My last flat was tiny and had a combo washer dryer in the kitchen, however it was just a cheap one that didn't automatically switch to dry after the load was washed... you still had to press a button.

My new place has a much better quality one that does everything automatically. I love it.

 

[0roo0roo]

eh, i doubt they are any good, sounds like one of those situations where it would end up doing both jobs poorly.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: lxskllr
That's a horrible idea. If 1 half breaks, you have to replace the whole thing.

That's true with most things. Car, tv, dishwasher...

Not at twice the cost. It's more like your car dies, and you replace the motorcycle too.

Who said anything about twice the price?

A washer costs $x, and a dryer costs $x. If one goes up on a combined unit, you have to buy both at 2*$x. If one goes up on separate units, you buy 1 at 1*$x.

Not usually the case with most all in one units of any kind. The nature of mass production and the reuse of many parts often drive the price of all in one units down to close to the price of individual units. Take all in one printer/scanner/fax/copy machines for instance. They don't cost 4x the price of those individual units. In many countries where these units are the norm like Japan or Europe the price is definitely not going to be twice that of the individual units, though they may be here in the west because they are rare.

 

[Raincity]

I have a LG unit and it sucks. It takes twice as long to dry the load as a normal dryer and uses more electric. I have no washer dryer hookups and the LG does beat going to the local laundry mat.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Eli
I'd buy it. That'd be pretty cool.

Yep. you're way late on that one, buddy.

:beer:

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: bobdole369

Imagine being able to put a load of clothes in, and come back to them dry. No having to worry about transferring them to the dryer.

No separate dryer, no separate washer. You put in clothes and detergent, and get out dry clean clothes.

That would absolutely freakin rock.


Unfortunately I don't think such a thing exists. If it does I would have expected to see it on some of the boats (megayachts) I work on. They always have the smallest most efficient things to do the job. They have no utility space at all on those boats.

that's some serious mega yacht fail right there.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: bobdole369
No shit:

from what was linked earlier:

"have owned combination washer/dryers for over a decade, and the LG WM3988HWA is my third such machine. This is absolutely the best combo unit available. The capacity, cleaning performance, and ability to dry in the same drum without a dryer vent make this the ideal machine for me. The biggest complaint about combos is that they take a long time to dry and that half loads are recommended for good dry performance. The reason the drying takes longer is that ventless combos dry using a condensation process. By passing the hot drum air through a mist of cool water, the "steam" from the clothes is condensed into water and flushed out by the washer/dryer's water pump. The heavier the fabric, the longer it takes. A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours. A full load of synthetics and some light cottons will wash and dry in 3 hours. I love this machine. The steam feature, both during the wash cycle and as a way to freshen dry clothing, is something I use all the time. There are many other great features like a drum light, delay wash, the ability to customize cycles. Bottom line, this machine takes longer to do what separate machines do, but it requires no vent, just a standard electrical outlet, and everything gets washed and dried after you press start. I love the WM3988HWA, and if you're thinking about a combo, get this one; you'll love it too"

hmm..... Interesting. Are there any models that have a dryer vent? That seems like a silly thing to leave out... lol

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bobdole369
No shit:

from what was linked earlier:

"have owned combination washer/dryers for over a decade, and the LG WM3988HWA is my third such machine. This is absolutely the best combo unit available. The capacity, cleaning performance, and ability to dry in the same drum without a dryer vent make this the ideal machine for me. The biggest complaint about combos is that they take a long time to dry and that half loads are recommended for good dry performance. The reason the drying takes longer is that ventless combos dry using a condensation process. By passing the hot drum air through a mist of cool water, the "steam" from the clothes is condensed into water and flushed out by the washer/dryer's water pump. The heavier the fabric, the longer it takes. A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours. A full load of synthetics and some light cottons will wash and dry in 3 hours. I love this machine. The steam feature, both during the wash cycle and as a way to freshen dry clothing, is something I use all the time. There are many other great features like a drum light, delay wash, the ability to customize cycles. Bottom line, this machine takes longer to do what separate machines do, but it requires no vent, just a standard electrical outlet, and everything gets washed and dried after you press start. I love the WM3988HWA, and if you're thinking about a combo, get this one; you'll love it too"

hmm..... Interesting. Are there any models that have a dryer vent? That seems like a silly thing to leave out... lol

these types of units and the stackable apartment units are made ventless so that you don't need access to an exterior wall for venting. They also don't required 220v service and often have built in heaters so you don't need dual water supply. Makes perfect sense.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bobdole369
No shit:

from what was linked earlier:

"have owned combination washer/dryers for over a decade, and the LG WM3988HWA is my third such machine. This is absolutely the best combo unit available. The capacity, cleaning performance, and ability to dry in the same drum without a dryer vent make this the ideal machine for me. The biggest complaint about combos is that they take a long time to dry and that half loads are recommended for good dry performance. The reason the drying takes longer is that ventless combos dry using a condensation process. By passing the hot drum air through a mist of cool water, the "steam" from the clothes is condensed into water and flushed out by the washer/dryer's water pump. The heavier the fabric, the longer it takes. A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours. A full load of synthetics and some light cottons will wash and dry in 3 hours. I love this machine. The steam feature, both during the wash cycle and as a way to freshen dry clothing, is something I use all the time. There are many other great features like a drum light, delay wash, the ability to customize cycles. Bottom line, this machine takes longer to do what separate machines do, but it requires no vent, just a standard electrical outlet, and everything gets washed and dried after you press start. I love the WM3988HWA, and if you're thinking about a combo, get this one; you'll love it too"

hmm..... Interesting. Are there any models that have a dryer vent? That seems like a silly thing to leave out... lol

these types of units and the stackable apartment units are made ventless so that you don't need access to an exterior wall for venting. They also don't required 220v service and often have built in heaters so you don't need dual water supply. Makes perfect sense.

Yeah, I realize that.. What about when you don't really care about space and such, though?

I mean, the space savings with one unit vs. two would be nice, but the main advantage in my eyes is throwing clothes in and getting clean, dry clothes out without having to do anything.

I will wait for a model that is comparable to standalone units, I guess.

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Argo
I had one in my first apartment after college. It was convinient, but the dryer in the combo unit kinda sucked. The cloth would always come out sort of crumbled.

crumbled











CRUMBLED

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: bobdole369
No shit:

from what was linked earlier:

"have owned combination washer/dryers for over a decade, and the LG WM3988HWA is my third such machine. This is absolutely the best combo unit available. The capacity, cleaning performance, and ability to dry in the same drum without a dryer vent make this the ideal machine for me. The biggest complaint about combos is that they take a long time to dry and that half loads are recommended for good dry performance. The reason the drying takes longer is that ventless combos dry using a condensation process. By passing the hot drum air through a mist of cool water, the "steam" from the clothes is condensed into water and flushed out by the washer/dryer's water pump. The heavier the fabric, the longer it takes. A full load of cottons will wash and dry in 4.5 hours. A full load of synthetics and some light cottons will wash and dry in 3 hours. I love this machine. The steam feature, both during the wash cycle and as a way to freshen dry clothing, is something I use all the time. There are many other great features like a drum light, delay wash, the ability to customize cycles. Bottom line, this machine takes longer to do what separate machines do, but it requires no vent, just a standard electrical outlet, and everything gets washed and dried after you press start. I love the WM3988HWA, and if you're thinking about a combo, get this one; you'll love it too"

hmm..... Interesting. Are there any models that have a dryer vent? That seems like a silly thing to leave out... lol

these types of units and the stackable apartment units are made ventless so that you don't need access to an exterior wall for venting. They also don't required 220v service and often have built in heaters so you don't need dual water supply. Makes perfect sense.

Yeah, I realize that.. What about when you don't really care about space and such, though?

I mean, the space savings with one unit vs. two would be nice, but the main advantage in my eyes is throwing clothes in and getting clean, dry clothes out without having to do anything.

I will wait for a model that is comparable to standalone units, I guess.

I'm with you on this. I actually don't care about the clothes taking 4.5 hours to go from dirty to clean, but I imagine the energy costs would be way more than my current gas heated/vented setup.

I have a gas connection.

I have a vent.

I'm lazy.

Please someone build me a washer/dryer.

 

[rocadelpunk]

i'm ok with washing and drying.

it's the folding and putting away that I loathe.

 

[LS21]

my gas separate front loader and dryer pwns all of your asses

 

[Mark R]

Originally posted by: Eli
Yeah, I realize that.. What about when you don't really care about space and such, though?

I mean, the space savings with one unit vs. two would be nice, but the main advantage in my eyes is throwing clothes in and getting clean, dry clothes out without having to do anything.

I will wait for a model that is comparable to standalone units, I guess.

Apart from the fact that the drying takes a bit longer than a conventional vented unit, there really isn't much difference.

The washing component is the same as a conventional washer - because it is a conventional front-loading washer.

Drying is a bit slower due to having a built in condenser. But it's a lot more convenient than a conventional vented/unvented dryer because the unit is self cleaning - no lint filters to unblock - because the washing part of the machine washes it. No condensation to drain like in a conventional unvented dryer - it's got a drain built in.

Cost is about the same as a conventional washer - maybe marginally more than a basic washer. Definitely way less than separate units.

Energy consumption is pretty similar to separate units. Someone mentioned cold fill earlier in the thread - all washer/dryers are cold fill that's true. But all new European washers are cold fill too. It's actually more efficient to do it this way - because conventional front loader hot fill machines end up drawing a large proportion of their hot water from idle pipes, in effect wasting the energy that went into heating it.

Water consumption is a bit higher than separate units because the dryer component needs cold water to run its condenser.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Mark R

Originally posted by: Eli
Yeah, I realize that.. What about when you don't really care about space and such, though?

I mean, the space savings with one unit vs. two would be nice, but the main advantage in my eyes is throwing clothes in and getting clean, dry clothes out without having to do anything.

I will wait for a model that is comparable to standalone units, I guess.

Apart from the fact that the drying takes a bit longer than a conventional vented unit, there really isn't much difference.

The washing component is the same as a conventional washer - because it is a conventional front-loading washer.

Drying is a bit slower due to having a built in condenser. But it's a lot more convenient than a conventional vented/unvented dryer because the unit is self cleaning - no lint filters to unblock - because the washing part of the machine washes it. No condensation to drain like in a conventional unvented dryer - it's got a drain built in.

Cost is about the same as a conventional washer - maybe marginally more than a basic washer. Definitely way less than separate units.

Energy consumption is pretty similar to separate units. Someone mentioned cold fill earlier in the thread - all washer/dryers are cold fill that's true. But all new European washers are cold fill too. It's actually more efficient to do it this way - because conventional front loader hot fill machines end up drawing a large proportion of their hot water from idle pipes, in effect wasting the energy that went into heating it.

Water consumption is a bit higher than separate units because the dryer component needs cold water to run its condenser.

Thanks for the info. It sounds pretty cool. I really wouldn't mind the longer drying times, if it meant an end to forgetting about clothes in the washer and having to wash them again because they went sour.