Is there going to be Battlefield 3?

leeland

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Just wondering if they can build on a good concept and fix some of the glaring bugs!!!
 

TehMac

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AFAIK, EA is making Battlefield Bad Company a console only (read absolute crap) battlefield type game that focuses on two blokes in the SP campaign, and I dunno for MP. It seems like an attempt to blend BF with Teamfortress, and hopefully, it doesn't come to PC.
The cool things are mainly new and better graphics, as well as almost complete destructibility of the maps.
Nothing new is announced for the PC, but I hope the next Battlefield game has:
Dx10 support
server options for 128 peeps max, instead of 64
Bigger maps obviously
customizing options
A realistic setting (i.e. modern, WW2, Korea, Vietnam etc...something gritty like, none of this future future crap).
 

leeland

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Well that sucks if that is the case...I would be disappointment if they have some crappy console version and not a stand alone PC version.
 

pontifex

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wait, am i seeing this correctly? my glasses are on so thats not the problem...

people actually want another game published by EA? they're disappointed that an EA game is going console only? they even want another game added to the craptacular BF series??

man, i need to go to the eye doctor or maybe you guys need checked into the looney bin.


oh, and for a more serious answer - of course there's going to be a BF3. All EA knows how to do is release sequels to crappy games. they'll milk it forever.
 

TehMac

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Battlefield 2 was not crap. I hate to break it to you, but people are still playing the game, 2 years after it was first released. That's hardly crap.
As for milking the BF series, you're right, but that can be both good and bad. It really depends. EA has some crap games, and they have some good games.
 

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Originally posted by: pontifex
wait, am i seeing this correctly? my glasses are on so thats not the problem...

people actually want another game published by EA? they're disappointed that an EA game is going console only? they even want another game added to the craptacular BF series??

man, i need to go to the eye doctor or maybe you guys need checked into the looney bin.


oh, and for a more serious answer - of course there's going to be a BF3. All EA knows how to do is release sequels to crappy games. they'll milk it forever.

Battlefield 2 is a fine game, one of my favorites of all time
 

BD2003

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Is the sky blue?

I'd bet my life savings on it.

And aside from the crap that was BF:Vietname, the BF series on PC has only been getting better and better. 2142 isnt very buggy at all.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Is the sky blue?

I'd bet my life savings on it.

And aside from the crap that was BF:Vietname, the BF series on PC has only been getting better and better. 2142 isnt very buggy at all.
I like that, but I don't like 2142's setting.
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: TehMac
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BD2003
Is the sky blue?

I'd bet my life savings on it.

And aside from the crap that was BF:Vietname, the BF series on PC has only been getting better and better. 2142 isnt very buggy at all.</end quote></div>
I like that, but I don't like 2142's setting.

Or weaponry.
 

TehMac

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Yeah, I want something like Frontlines Fuel of War, but with more lush landscapes like Battlefield, and much bigger. I also want more heavy duty weaponry, like H-47s, V-22s, more armor, Kiowas, OH-6As, rocket pod/machine gun mounted UH-1Y Hueys, AH-1Zs with laser designators, all that terrific good stuff. And I want the same for say the Russians or Chinese, like Mig 29s, SU-30s, SU-37s, Su-34, SU-47s T-90s etc.
And I also want war to become more personal: Customizing weapons, with new sights and perhaps adding on a handgrip, if the weapon is realistically able to handle it (reduces reocil). I also think Battlefield like games should have their own create a class ideas. Like choosing for example what weapons to use. Also you should be able to capture enemy weapons and add those to your arsenal of weapons to choose from to form the basis of your kit.
 

Bateluer

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I wouldn't be opposed to a BF3, provided its not a glorified, overprice, spyware laden expansion pack like BF2142. Seriously, I really despise BF2142.
 

duragezic

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Yeah I'd like to see a BF3, along the lines of BF2 but more polished. But if they shut down the BF2 stat servers for good, damn if I'd consider buying BF2142 at all anymore, and would really make me not buy future titles. Games like CoD4, Frontlines: FoW, and others look to be very similar games but looking very very good.

I agree TehMac, those are some good ideas. With technology today and where its headed, they should be able to make some insanely intense games. Even trailers for Crysis, CoD4, etc look really amazing.

My biggest complain with BF2 is ****** air power, and to a lesser extent, tanks. People like to say I suck if I have problems with those overpowered vehicles, and although I can't fly worth a damn, the rare time that I get a tank, my score gets pretty awesome in a short amount of time. I could hold my own as infantry almost exclusively, yet get into a tank that I'm not skilled at all with and do good, well I think that it is kind of overpowered. But tanks aren't too bad, at least there is some defense against them (C4 or AT class). Airplanes are ridiculous.. sure there is AA missiles, but a lot of good those do...


edit: Wow! Gamespy stats show

BF2: 13,942 players
BF2142: 7,508 players

On a Thursday night in the summer? Granted the HL and HL2 numbers seem a little lower than I usually see them, but BF2 used to have > 30,000 players and BF2142 at about 25,000. Are people angry over no stats in BF2? I think they want to get them to buy/come to BF2142, but that is a risky move as most players will say fvck EA and move on to something else.
 

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
I wouldn't be opposed to a BF3, provided its not a glorified, overprice, spyware laden expansion pack like BF2142. Seriously, I really despise BF2142.

Yea $50 for what was essentially a BF 2.25
 

TehMac

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Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing anything modern, or pre modern, as long as its a Games for Windows Logo (That means EA HAS to support Widescreen, which means they probably won't go GFW), DX10 support, and bigger maps and server options.
 

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BF2 was the worst idea they ever had. Honestly, 1942 and Desert Combat were the ultimate games in the series and still are. People just wanted better graphics and they got it... unfortunately with a crap system.

This is one BF fan that has divorced the series and I know one of the lead GUI developers of 2142. I give him shit when I can about working for them and on that title. Honestly, EA milk titles worse Lucas Films will market SW memorabilia for a movie.
 

pontifex

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bigger maps? those maps are huge. its takes forever to get to the other side on most of them.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: pontifex
bigger maps? those maps are huge. its takes forever to get to the other side on most of them.
If you have more peeps, you'll get more firefights, and more vehicles of course.
 

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The air vehicles are a BIG JOKE.

They totally take away from the experience. Tanks are okay because there are defenses against them.

I'd like to see some custimizable skins, especially for the sniper. Ironically, the guille suit for the sniper is supposed to conceal them, but you can easily spot them out in a squad from a fairly long distance. And if I spot the guille suit from afar, I don't prone and try to take them out with the assault rifle.

- More sidearm choices.

- Get rid of the airplanes and attack helicoptor.

- Leave the Blackhawk helicoptor.

- Add a custom class of characters where you can choose your wepons. ANybody play the mod Firearms for Half-Life 1? Make the weapon selection similar like this, but without the ability to choose 2 primarys.
 

leeland

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Originally posted by: pontifex
wait, am i seeing this correctly? my glasses are on so thats not the problem...

people actually want another game published by EA? they're disappointed that an EA game is going console only? they even want another game added to the craptacular BF series??

man, i need to go to the eye doctor or maybe you guys need checked into the looney bin.


oh, and for a more serious answer - of course there's going to be a BF3. All EA knows how to do is release sequels to crappy games. they'll milk it forever.


I think there are some basic things wrong with BF2...
  • the hit detection (my biggest problem) - Example: Shooting a AT Rocket at a </Insert Vehicle/> that is attempting to run you down...watching the rocket pass through the center of the vehicle and magically NOT kill anything. Or the fact that you have to lead someone so far that it basically becomes a game of chance (am I going to hit them or am I not)...very irritating when sniper and attempting to get a kill on a moving target which is 80% of the time.

    The weapon accuracy - I guess that would be be fixed to some degree with the hit detection...I have been on both sides of the fence with this one...hitting someone and watching little puffs of dust fly off them (meaning a HIT) but it not getting detected which always results in your death when they turn around and shoot once for the instant kill :D !!

    Vehicle are way to powerful especially Jets... I wouldn't care so much that they were powerful, just that the AA is so pathetic. If you are going to make the jets and choppers so powerful then make the AA guns the same...or have more of them. Nothing is more irritating when on an air map to have someone fly by. You Lock on and shoot (maybe ya hit them maybe you don't) only to have them circle around at 10,000 feet into a 5,000 mph dive and gun the crap out of the turret before you even have a chance. People are so skilled with the jets and know the maps so well they can start shooting before they even have visual contact....but the STUPID F'in AA needs to have line of sight...and even when it does...you can't lock on until it is too late.


I could give a crap about stats...if you play on regular servers, people know who you are and how good you are...as long as you have the weapons you want then what is the point of stats...basically a bigger e-penis...

I like the idea that another poster had about individualizing the game to your likings within the context of the game...not so much to give an advantage...but at least some more options.

If they did come out with a new DX10 version I would love to see some of the other things mentioned. Larger maps...more players and some thought put into the fact that squads are a necessary vs. optional.

for instance, if you get into a squad the VOIP is automatically enabled so you don't have to keep on pushing the button...little things like that.

 

TehMac

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I think that letting an anti tank class also carry AA missiles that are actually decent helps significantly. So I think there should still be Attack Choppers, because I mean, hell, vehicles are fun, you just need to balance it out.
 

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Battlefield 3 would be a great game IMO. I love BF2 and they could really improve on it with better graphics. Also I think a (more) realistic enemy would be great, if not somewhat controversial. One of the game modes could be a squad trying to get from A to B, with everyone else trying to stop them, utilizing car bombs or whatever.
 

swtethan

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I missed the days of flag hopping with the blackhawk and 4 passengers! :D capture a flag in two seconds!
 

TehMac

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I think that just asking for graphics is not good enough. I want to be able to utilize today's and early tomorrow's weaponry, like AH-1Z Cobras with laser finders, F-35s with gun pods, Blackhawks with rocket pods, UH-1Y Hueys with door guns that aren't crap, or .50Cal Gun pods etc. I want to use all that weaponry, and I like the foes EA set up. I don't want to be fighting some crappy enemy with wrapped up towels on their heads, but an advanced group of peeps, with tanks, choppers, and jets.
I think that RPGs and AT4s should be standard, and radar guided missiles should be unlockable.Here is some info--DICE is making another crapass Console game--no PC game immenent. Damn EA to hell.