Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: invidia
Originally posted by: eits
this year is going to suck so much ass... the weather this summer will kill a bunch of people, i think, whether it be because of natural disasters or because of heat.
it was 75 degrees in dc a couple days ago... 70-fvcking-5. what the fvck.
anyone who says, "i love this beautiful weather we're having," when it's anywhere between 50-70 degrees during december or january needs to be shot in the throat.
That's friggin cool. It was 92F high yesterday.
jesus...
"i'm the united states of america... i'm not going to help reduce global warming or sign the kyoto protocol to make it seem like i even give a damn"
I think you hit it right on the head. What we are seing here, in this thread, is the predominant American attitude - to hell with the world, as long as it doesn't affect me in my personal life in the near future why should I care? That is DAPUNISHER's and most other posters feelings on the subject, apparently. It's the American way. Personal rights over everything else. I have a right to drive my 5 mpg Hummer and no one can stop me - even if its destroying the rest of the world. To hell with the consequences, they won't affect me...why should I care? Sometimes I understand why other countries hate us.
So what was the solution again? Your buying a bike? Don't forget every chinese citizen that can manage it, a rapidly growing percentage annually, are trading in their bikes for cars.
Link 1 link 2 link 3 I could keep going. Here's a quote from the Forbes article
The auto business is growing in China at a considerably higher rate than the GDP there. According to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers, production for the first eight months of 2003 has been 2,781,800 units, up 36% from the same eight months in 2002. For passenger cars alone, output accelerated almost 92% to 1,223,400 units through the start of this month.
The highway infrastructure also continues to expand, even if the quality of the roads is improving at a disproportionately slower rate. The U.S. Department of State assesses road conditions and maintenance in China as good in urban settings and only fair in rural areas; it also points out that the availability of roadside assistance is only fair in or near large cities and nonexistent in rural areas. Despite this, the total length of highways in China ranked second among nations at the end of 2002. In 1997, China was 39th.
Again,
there is nothing you personally can do about global warming, even if it is anthropogenic in origin, or just exacerbated by us. Your riding a bike, will net the planet 2 things, Jack and sh!t, and Jack left town.
If you are simply trying to just
NOW be part of the solution and not part of the problem, welcome to what
I've been doing for over 20yrs, you self-rightous arse. Do a search on my posts, you'll find I ride a MTB for many trips less than 5miles each way, sometime longer***been doing it for years how about you? Oh that's right you were buying a bike. Did you get it? pics?*** Traded in a mid-sized SUV for a Toyota that is rated for 30+ both city&hwy, and have a home biz. I also have 2 oak trees in my yard, 1 I planted, and have swapped out for all high rated energy star appliances. Along with the fact I eat very little red meat, thus not contributing much to the bovine methane issue. Now, take a look at all those things in your life and see how you are comparing for greenhouse gas footprint. Oh, that's right, you are buying a bike! :disgust:
Jeez, man. Congrats. If you did all of those things then why are you busting my balls about it? It seems you are with the plan...so why all the arguing? However I have to admit that you accusing me of being grandiose for feeling that I can make a difference now seems somewhat hypocritical. You actually beat me to it.
Perhaps it''s a bit overkill but here is what I have done so far to try to reduce my negative impact on the world (aside from my big mouth):
-Upraded to all Energy Star compliant appliances
-Bought a highly efficient Honda small vehicle (33 mpg)
-Bought a home walking/biking distance from work
-Bought 15 acres of forested land and donated it to the Vermont Land trust which is a conservation society - can't be parcelled or developed ever.
- swapped all lights for CCFL's
- Installed a wood burning stove and havest all my own heating wood from my property which is then replanted
- Spent about $5K on insulation for the home
- Bought a programmable thermostat
- Decreased the heat in my home and the set temp on my water heater
- Make a conscious effort not to pass gas
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Now I know that most people can't afford to do all of those things, but it is actually cheaper to bike or use mass transit than to drive anyway so cost is not an excuse for that.
I am proud that my state is setting the national benchmark for conservation and efficiency. Hopefully I can install solar panels in the near future and get off the grid. That's my goal.
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