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Is there any way to increase a website's ranking on google without paying or for a reasonable fee?

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Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Learn more about SEO which I believe stands for Search Engine Optimization?
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Thanks Ross. I don't think my dad has time to learn this himself, do you think it might be possible for me to learn SEO on my own, or do you think it might be wiser to hire someone with a lot of experience/knowledge in the field?
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Hi Tomato,

This is my first post here and I am arriving at the invitation of RossMAN, whom I know from another forum. In signing up here, I wasn't able to use my normal memberID of Blue, so I'll be WillyNilly here.

SEO, and those whom practise it, come in many forms. I will stress to you here and now *quite strongly* that you need to do your homework on SEO before making ANY decisions. It's easy to spend a lot of money and see no return. There are many within the SEO industry that WILL burn you. So beware.

Also, I have to respectfully disagree with pulse8. It's not about ranking. Ranking is only one of many many factors that come into play. Nor is the fact that a product is highly specialized or priced high a factor. In fact, this may be a distinct advantage.

I've taken a quick look at your site and believe there is excellent potential to improve your ROI through SEO. And that is what the bottom line is all about with SEO's that are worth their salt - ensuring that highly targeted traffic is generated which result in conversions, and that these are long term results.

You *could* learn SEO yourself (and may wish to do so) but there is a pretty steep learning curve as it involves a wide array of techniques, each with their own quirks.

I suspect that for your current situation, you'll need a two-pronged approach:

1.) PPC/PFI campaigns - to acheive immediate results - taking up the slack until organic SEO kicks in at which time you'd drop the PPC/PFI

- and -

2.) Traditional Organic SEO - to acheive ethical, long term results leading to conversions.

A word on conversions...

Many spout "Traffic This" or "Ranking That" or "PR is Everything".

In reality, unless one is solely relying on percentages, none of the above matters. I can get millions of hits or visitors to a website. But what good is that if no one buys anything?

So, the strategy which holds the most water is one that concentrates on gaining highly targeted traffic which results in conversions, that withstand the test of time. A conversion is the act of making a visitor into a sale.

I don't have time to educate you in this one post Tomato, but please email me (RossMAN has my email address) and I'll be happy to discuss with you what your options are and what you'll need to do to implement them.
 
Getting links from other sites with lots of views helps A LOT

Just to give an idea, I ran lots of large topsite lists years ago when I was in middle school and since everyone had a link to my site, the search engines would notice lots of links to my site and that would increase my google rank. I was usually in the first three results for things like "topsites" "anime" and so on and so forth. Submit it many search engines, hotscripts.com, resource-index.com, etc.
 
WillyNilly knows what he's talking about, I'd reccomend going with what he says to do first, then going about smaller things like what others and myself have said. If you need any help, feel free to PM or IM me, you've got nothing to lose 😀
 
Originally posted by: WillyNilly
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: RossMAN
Learn more about SEO which I believe stands for Search Engine Optimization?
Click to expand...

Thanks Ross. I don't think my dad has time to learn this himself, do you think it might be possible for me to learn SEO on my own, or do you think it might be wiser to hire someone with a lot of experience/knowledge in the field?
Click to expand...

Hi Tomato,

This is my first post here and I am arriving at the invitation of RossMAN, whom I know from another forum. In signing up here, I wasn't able to use my normal memberID of Blue, so I'll be WillyNilly here.

1.) PPC/PFI campaigns - to acheive immediate results - taking up the slack until organic SEO kicks in at which time you'd drop the PPC/PFI
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Signing up with google isn't such a bad idea... He's also going to need some sticky content on the site. Perhaps a support forum. Welcome to ATOT. 🙂
 
Well, I noticed that my fairly unique username can be googled and I'm the first 4 hits (from another forum and this one). Is because every post has a link to my profile on the site? Would it be ethical to just add his link to your sig? Would it work?
 
WTFBBQCORNUTSFROZENTWINKIES!

Dezign,

After you PM me your e-mail address, WillyNilly has authorized me to give you his name, email address and phone number 🙂

He's a fellow Kalifornian!
 
Since it's been mentioned I'll touch on this subject of submitting sites.

It is NEVER necessary (except in a few extreme scenarios) to submit ones site(s) to ANY search engine. Period.

It is a search engines job to go out and find your site(s) with it's spiders or robots, and then to index it and present it in the SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages).

Rather, one should submit their site(s) to Directories, including the majors, the minors, and specialty and topic specific Directories.

All it takes for a search engine to find you is a single link from a site they already have indexed. This link could be from a Directory or from any other site they already have indexed.

This is why all those companies out there stating they'll "submit your site to a bajillion search engines for only a dollar two ninety eight" are scammers.

Also, those that say that they'll submit your site, or that it's wise for you to submit your site, monthly or weekly or any amount are also either scammers or lacking in knowledge.

For Directories, especially DMOZ, you should only submit your site ONCE. There's a good reason for this. DMOZ has a "submission queue". Each time you submit the same URL, you go to the end of the line.

Make *absolutely* sure that you go by their submittal proceedures, researching them carefully. Also, make sure that you research the exact right category to submit to. I know this from a lot of first hand experience. If you go by their rules, you will get in.

Take some time to search aorund in the category of your choice to view other listings. This may be of benefit to you.

It's also wise to do your SEO beFORE you submit to any directories. You want them to be listing the right Title, Description and Keywords info. Getting them to change it after the fact can be a huge hassle, not to mention that it wastes their time and they already have plenty to do. Simply make it easy on them and yourself by doing it right the first time.
 
Originally posted by: RossMAN
WTFBBQCORNUTSFROZENTWINKIES!

Dezign,

After you PM me your e-mail address, WillyNilly has authorized me to give you his name, email address and phone number 🙂

He's a fellow Kalifornian!
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Mmmmm twinkies. 😀:heart:
 
Originally posted by: WillyNilly
For Directories, especially DMOZ, you should only submit your site ONCE. There's a good reason for this. DMOZ has a "submission queue". Each time you submit the same URL, you go to the end of the line.
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You forgot to add: Wait 6 months, then sign up on their support forums to inquiry about the submission. Wait 2 more months, then start another thread and ask why it's taking so long, and get replies how it's volunteer work and they should be treated like gods and donations are welcome, and then plead for forgiveness and the next day you should be on DMOZ, but probably not with the description you entered. 😀
 
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