Is there any reason to ditch Windows XP??

Yukmouth

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I've not spent much time with Vista or Windows Seven and I'm perfectly happy with XP Pro SP3 (I don't use anything else).

All I do is game, overclock, game more, then maybe overclock, video encode before the movies go back to blockbuster, maybe hit up the torrents like the law abiding citizen I am then grab some MP3 mixtapes while I'm at it.

Is there any reason to move on at the moment?
 

jdjbuffalo

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Until you get games you can't run at the setting you desire then you don't have to. Things that you might need for newer games include DirectX 10 / 11, more than 3GB of RAM and better multi-core performance.

I personally think it's worth the upgrade. There is a learning curve but you'll probably be over that in a month or less.
 

Lemon law

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My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: YukmouthIs there any reason to move on at the moment?

Better security, both by default and in absolute terms.

 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.

ever heard of linux?

I think microsoft prices are pretty reasonable though. I think 3 license family pack is $150. Think i saw a deal the other day for even less.

And of course students get it multiple licenses for $15.
 
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While I like some interface niceties offered by Vista/7, I find XP is still a workable, solid OS. I switch between Vista Home Premium and XP Professional regularly. It isn't quite as jarring a transition as alternating between, say, XP and 98SE. Now I like Windows 7 and will definitely be getting it for my XP desktop (which will be overhauled to an i5 750/HD5850 hopefully this month), but I don't think I would resent XP if I were stuck with it for another year or so.
 
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.

There are so many things wrong with this post that I don't know where to start :confused:
 

Yukmouth

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: YukmouthIs there any reason to move on at the moment?

Better security, both by default and in absolute terms.

I hope so. Someone made their way onto my computer remotely through my high speed connection when I moved recently, I was shocked. At first I thought Windnows XP was crap so I had a I hate windows fit; then I realized the firewall was off :eek:. Still, that was not fun and I think more could be done in this area, especially with wireless as popular as it is.

I'm surprised nobody has said much about GUI. Once you get to the internet everything looks the same I know; but I thought visual improvement was going to be big though?

I was hoping someone would have graced me with glorious GUI goodies of some sort :(.

When will we see an impact to Windows as big as the NTFS file system was? Going from Fat32 to NTFS was like night and day, but that was many years ago.

 

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Originally posted by: hans030390
Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks...

Well, you're already wrong there...so...

Yep so wrong,infact XP has been wiped for good on my last PC,just Vista which is an excellent OS ,Win7 is tweaked,slightly improved version IMHO especially for older PCs,and last but not least good old Linux.


Sooner XP has gone the better in my books,its had more then a good run so time to move on.
 

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Obviously, it's a personal choice. I have 4 systems. 2 laptops. One Vista and one XP. The XP one is incapable of Vista, so it will stay as it is. The Vista lappie works perfectly under all circumstances, any time, anywhere. It will be upgraded to Win 7 soon.

Desktop 1 is XP. That is where all the peripherals that do work are installed. Everything works 100%. Too many programs in XP to start over. (Over 65!) There is no direct XP to 7 path. Clean install is required, so that will just wait until the machine is replaced.

The Desktop 2 is the newest - a Quad 6600 system. It runs both Vista and Windows 7 via separate HDDs in mobile racks.

Bottom line - we will stay as we are until a new replacement desktop is warranted.

 

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Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.

ever heard of linux?
QFT. If you don't want move to Win7 or Vista, one of the more popular Linux distros (i.e Ubuntu, openSUSE, PCLinuxOS, FedoraCore, etc.) sound like a good fit since what you listed doesn't require any Windows only software.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.

Why not use Linux? Mint, PCLinuxOS2009, and OpenSUSE are beautiful. If I didnt game and didnt do alot of image/video editing I would use Linux full time. Sounds like you would be a good candidate. You can download a live disk and try it out without even installing it. Give it a shot :)
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Yukmouth
I've not spent much time with Vista or Windows Seven and I'm perfectly happy with XP Pro SP3 (I don't use anything else).

All I do is game, overclock, game more, then maybe overclock, video encode before the movies go back to blockbuster, maybe hit up the torrents like the law abiding citizen I am then grab some MP3 mixtapes while I'm at it.

Is there any reason to move on at the moment?

OP, the rig in your sig is well ready for Win7 :) If you're a gamer, it's a no-brainer. You'll be capable of full DX10 immediately, and DX11 soon after (or whenever you move from that pretty nice 4850).

I really like XP, it works just fine for a huge number of tasks, but for a gamer with modern hardware, it makes no sense to stick with a dead-end gaming platform.
 

VashHT

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks, and win7 is still something we will not consider up grading to until at least six months after its final release. Neither of us are gamers, we do not need new features or tons of ram, why should we rush right out to shower microsoft with the pile of money at the rip off rates such an upgrade would require for both computers?

With a little luck, someone will develop a non microsoft OS that will run legacy code and support the various hardware before hand, and we can all say good bye microsoft monopoly and its calculated obsolesce and arrogance.

Ridiculous statement, they are never going to force you to move from XP, so why don't you just leave it at that? You make yourself sound stupid by saying all this other garbage when all it comes down to is that you personally don't see a need to upgrade.

To the OP, as a huge gamer myself I would recommend W7. I got rid of XP a while ago when Vista came out and honestly have not had many headaches at all with Vista and W7 just improves upon it. Like other people said it's a little different at first but after you get used to it it's great. The one big thing to remember is to run every game as admin, I've seen so many problems caused by that and people usually try a ton of other stuff to fix them.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
My wife and I still have win XP, we already know that vista stinks

Hahah, thanks for the laugh. Whenever I read these types of comments I always get a chuckle.
 

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Going on 2 months completely windows-free on my i7 build. It was too much of a hassle to re-activate XP or install the win7 copy I got from the developer conference, so I just played around with Ubuntu 9.10 pre releases on the new hardware. To my shock so far there's nothing I've needed Windows for so far.

The overclocking utilities available for Linux are very usable (i7z, lm-sensors, gkrellm). All the games I care about run flawlessly under Wine. There's a native port of flash player 10 64 bit. And I didn't have to do a thing after transplanting a hard drive out of my core2 box -- stuff worked well enough out of the box and only required minor tweaking for full potential.

Would definitely recommend you give Mint a spin, it sounds right up your alley. After the latest virus/malware drive-by infection on my mom's machine I'll be migrating her to Mint from XP this weekend as well. Almost everything she needs is software-as-a-service on the web, there are now literally 0 applications she runs from a native install.
 

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Working for the govt., I am forced to still use XP, and while it was fine when it came out eons ago, now compared to Vista and Win 7, it is a real pig. Everything about it feels ancient. I too have to laugh when I hear the unwashed slam Vista, although they've never used it, or minimally at best. It's infinitely better in every way over XP, and Win 7 improves that experience even further. Lemon Law, sounds like you're ready to get a Mac. By all means, do so. Don't forget your Koolaid at the door....
 

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Other than cost, why NOT upgrade to Win7 unless you have a lot of apps or hardware that for some reason really can't possibly run on it? Yes, Linux is an option, but not really so much if you're a gamer. I'm not a big fan of Vista, not that I think its totally evil, I just never got into it. Win7 on the other hand has been a real treat the times that I have used it. I think MS gets every other operating system right. 95 was great at the time, 98 wasn't so much, 98SE is cool, ME sucked HARD!, XP rocked, Vista obviously had its haters, Win7 seems to get a lot of praise. Funny how that works out.
 

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Other than cost, why NOT upgrade to Win7 unless you have a lot of apps or hardware that for some reason really can't possibly run on it

Heh you just named semi-major 3 reasons.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: jhansman
Working for the govt., I am forced to still use XP, and while it was fine when it came out eons ago, now compared to Vista and Win 7, it is a real pig. Everything about it feels ancient. I too have to laugh when I hear the unwashed slam Vista, although they've never used it, or minimally at best. It's infinitely better in every way over XP, and Win 7 improves that experience even further. Lemon Law, sounds like you're ready to get a Mac. By all means, do so. Don't forget your Koolaid at the door....

Exaggeration / hyperbole FTL.

Vista has some very legitimate improvements over XP. It also has a higher minimal HW requirement for an adequate experience, has incompatibility issues with a lot of program versions (I ran into this recently with Quark Xpress 6), and also has some nagging problems which are well documented.

Vista runs like crap on 1G Netbooks. XP is better, and Win7 is better still.
 

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: jhansman
Working for the govt., I am forced to still use XP, and while it was fine when it came out eons ago, now compared to Vista and Win 7, it is a real pig. Everything about it feels ancient. I too have to laugh when I hear the unwashed slam Vista, although they've never used it, or minimally at best. It's infinitely better in every way over XP, and Win 7 improves that experience even further. Lemon Law, sounds like you're ready to get a Mac. By all means, do so. Don't forget your Koolaid at the door....

Exaggeration / hyperbole FTL.

Vista has some very legitimate improvements over XP. It also has a higher minimal HW requirement for an adequate experience, has incompatibility issues with a lot of program versions (I ran into this recently with Quark Xpress 6), and also has some nagging problems which are well documented.

Vista runs like crap on 1G Netbooks. XP is better, and Win7 is better still.

You need 7.3 version of Quark Xpress to run on Vista,problem is XP is so old like a lot of hardware and software that some users still use, Vista was designed for modern hardware just like XP has higher specs then its previous operating systems,personally I have no issues with Vista or Win7 but then I use modern hardware and software,I understand that some users can't for whatever reason.

End of the day we all have to upgrade sooner or later.