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Is there any Carbonite like services for businesses?

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lokiju

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I've been looking around for some kind of solution.

What I'd really like is for it to do a bit level sync/backup of a sql db maybe once a day or something like that.

I'd need to store maybe 500GB's worth of data, it'd have to be screaming fast up and down and have the maximum up-time possible.


Does a service like this exist?

Almost like a web-based SAN or something really....


EDIT:

Let me elaborate by saying we do have an in house solution and back up around 5TB's a night and 25TB's on the weekend jobs.

I'm looking to store a few DB's that are always in sync with the active data for disaster recovery plan "C" (wost case everything else goes to shit, restore wise).

It needs to be easily accessible to me but highly secure, always available and fast upload and download.

I say 500GB's cause that'd allow me to save a few SQL DB's that'd make getting things up and running much easier if Plan "A" and "B" fail.

EDIT2:

I'm not looking to backup any servers remotely.

Just data.

This is for disaster recovery testing we're required to do once a year.

It's role playing basically but we need to make everything work like it was the real deal.

I want to put a copy of the SQL DB that's basically from our backup server that's running Backup Exec 12.5, I really need to be able to get to that database no matter what, even in the event that the IDR process fails that they offer (which has worked fine in testing fwiw). Without that DB I don't have a catalog of restore points and without those restore points I don't know what tape number I need for what server I want to restore or what data I want to restore. It'd leave me with having to spend countless hours on end reading each tape one by one until we happened to find exactly what tape had what data on it that we needed for a particular server we were trying to restore.

We already use Iron Mountain to hold our tapes from our daily and weekend jobs, the idea is to have specific boxes of tapes sent to our disaster recovery testing site and get everything up and running on rented equipment.

Whatever remote storage solution we end up using to hold this DB and maybe a few other DB's will need to be 3rd party and independent of anything that's housed in any of our remote data centers or mail location (per testing requirements) and will always have to be completely up-to-date at any given time as we'd have to be able to count on it for holding valid and current data in those DB's.
 
you're in Alpharetta. Call Sungard or some co-lo and they'll sell it to you. If you'd prefer to keep it in-house and have your own replicated environment, give me a call 😉.

We help customers get off of the solution you just pointed out.

Take your monthly cost for these backups x 36 months = the amount we will sell you a replicated solution for.

How about de-duplication? Snapshots? SQL verified hot images? Done.
 
Interesting that you mention Carbonite:

http://www.boston.com/business..._2_hardware_suppliers/

Carbonite Inc., a Boston company that backs up computer data for businesses and other organizations, is alleging that two other companies sold it more than $3 million worth of defective hardware, resulting in thousands of customers losing data.

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"Carbonite lost the backups of over 7,500 customers in a number of separate incidents, causing serious damage to Carbonite's business and to its reputation as a reliable source for backup data service."

....

Allegedly, this is through some other company's fault, but still.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
Interesting that you mention Carbonite:

http://www.boston.com/business..._2_hardware_suppliers/

Carbonite Inc., a Boston company that backs up computer data for businesses and other organizations, is alleging that two other companies sold it more than $3 million worth of defective hardware, resulting in thousands of customers losing data.

...

"Carbonite lost the backups of over 7,500 customers in a number of separate incidents, causing serious damage to Carbonite's business and to its reputation as a reliable source for backup data service."

....

Allegedly, this is through some other company's fault, but still.
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another reason to take this in-house if possible. How would any one of those 7500 users know that:

1. Carbonite wasn't effectively backing up their data
2. Carbonite chose an "also-ran" like Promise as their storage solution. I know Promise makes RAID controllers for desktops and commodity boxes, but if you're running a Data Protection service you need to have an Enterprise/Midrange SAN/NAS solution AND a backup to that storage like tape/appliance
 
Let me elaborate by saying we do have an in house solution and back up around 5TB's a night and 25TB's on the weekend jobs.

I'm looking to store a few DB's that are always in sync with the active data for disaster recovery plan "C" (wost case everything else goes to shit, restore wise).

It needs to be easily accessible to me but highly secure, always available and fast upload and download.

I say 500GB's cause that'd allow me to save a few SQL DB's that'd make getting things up and running much easier if Plan "A" and "B" fail.
 
Do you have the bandwidth on site to easily move 500GB/day, or are you planning to rely on smaller differential backups once the data is initially transferred?

Maybe I'm paranoid, but it this was truly confidential data, I'd want to encrypt locally using a known product (e.g. TrueCrypt or Windows EFS) and then upload remotely. I'm not sure if there's a good way to take advantage of differential transfers doing this though. At that point, however, all you'd really need is generic remote storage... a colo server somewhere as mentioned, Amazon S3, or just about anything (though the cost for 500GB/day would probably add up fast).

I'm just musing though - sounds like SpanishFry is a pro and already has an account ready for you :laugh: 😉
 
Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
Do you have the bandwidth on site to easily move 500GB/day, or are you planning to rely on smaller differential backups once the data is initially transferred?

Maybe I'm paranoid, but it this was truly confidential data, I'd want to encrypt locally using a known product (e.g. TrueCrypt or Windows EFS) and then upload remotely. I'm not sure if there's a good way to take advantage of differential transfers doing this though. At that point, however, all you'd really need is generic remote storage... a colo server somewhere as mentioned, Amazon S3, or just about anything (though the cost for 500GB/day would probably add up fast).

I'm just musing though - sounds like SpanishFry is a pro and already has an account ready for you :laugh: 😉
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I'd need 500GB total capacity with a differential backup being done daily at least.

 
Originally posted by: lokiju
Let me elaborate by saying we do have an in house solution and back up around 5TB's a night and 25TB's on the weekend jobs.

I'm looking to store a few DB's that are always in sync with the active data for disaster recovery plan "C" (wost case everything else goes to shit, restore wise).

It needs to be easily accessible to me but highly secure, always available and fast upload and download.

I say 500GB's cause that'd allow me to save a few SQL DB's that'd make getting things up and running much easier if Plan "A" and "B" fail.
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good info.

1. Do you have a remote office you could use to house your 'Plan B' ?
2. What kind of pipe do you have available to you?
3. How many servers are you looking to remotely back up?
a. If 1 server, use a host-based replication piece like Double-take
b. If many, look at a VMware cluster, invest in a SAN/SAN replication piece, and simply keep the data you want synchronized via a change-only snapshot based replication piece.
 
Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Originally posted by: lokiju
Let me elaborate by saying we do have an in house solution and back up around 5TB's a night and 25TB's on the weekend jobs.

I'm looking to store a few DB's that are always in sync with the active data for disaster recovery plan "C" (wost case everything else goes to shit, restore wise).

It needs to be easily accessible to me but highly secure, always available and fast upload and download.

I say 500GB's cause that'd allow me to save a few SQL DB's that'd make getting things up and running much easier if Plan "A" and "B" fail.
Click to expand...


good info.

1. Do you have a remote office you could use to house your 'Plan B' ?
2. What kind of pipe do you have available to you?
3. How many servers are you looking to remotely back up?
a. If 1 server, use a host-based replication piece like Double-take
b. If many, look at a VMware cluster, invest in a SAN/SAN replication piece, and simply keep the data you want synchronized via a change-only snapshot based replication piece.
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See edit 2 for more info.
 
There are tons and tons of online backup services. Iron Mountain is the generic one for business. But just google-up and you will find tons.
Hell you could just get a reliable webhosting account too and back up to that supplied FTP. There are BILLIONS of webhosts around.
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
There are tons and tons of online backup services. Iron Mountain is the generic one for business. But just google-up and you will find tons.
Hell you could just get a reliable webhosting account too and back up to that supplied FTP. There are BILLIONS of webhosts around.
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I'm looking for more than dumb storage if possible though.

I'm looking for a way to automatically have whatever is on hosted storage in perfect sync with whatever is on my local side.

Whats Iron Mountains online storage product called?
 
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