Babbles
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That would probably be closer to Hinduism.
It is sort of difficult to explain, but may, or most, Buddhist don't believe in the reincarnation as most people understand it. One of the central tenants of Buddhism is that we do not have an atman, which can be sort of thought as as the ego/self/soul and so forth. Therefore if we eliminate this idea of the atman, there is nothing to be reincarnated.
However, reincarnation exists in that we are all part of the universe; matter can not be created nor destroyed so when we die we again become part of the universe and that, in a very condensed nutshell, could be a better example of Buddhist "reincarnation."
Babbles
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Wikipedia, while a most excellent resource, is by far not the end-all, be-all for knowledge.
Secondarily, yes while Buddhism originated in India it is allegedly practiced only be a minority of people. I believe most Buddhist practitioners can be found in other Southeast Asian countries; so to tell people to go to India in of itself is pretty retarded. Furthermore Buddhism has so many factions, most of which started outside of India, it is pretty uninformed to just assume that everything can be learned in India.
AreaCode707
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I would disagree. (Conservative Christian.) Those are principles you can find in Christianity, certainly, but Christianity is ABOUT the person and saving grace of Jesus. As opposed to Buddhism, which is based around the principles, not the person.
Malak
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I would like to comment though that Karma is bunk. You can do nothing but positive things all your life and you will still have negative things happen to you. You can do nothing but negative things all your life and still have positive things happen to you. The concept of karma is a misguided look at cause and effect.
Malak
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Christianity is about principle. The #1 rule in Christianity is love. Love everyone. Do everything in love. Christianity isn't about anything else. Yes, we believe in God. But Buddhism isn't about buddha, just as Christianity isn't about God. It's about what God says, just like buddhism is about what buddha said.
i have never participated in organized religion however my beliefs and ideals are closest to that of buddhism and taoism
Same here. Those two seem to be more about the principals of the universe rather than the worship of some kind of god. I find them much more palatable.
buddhists openly and actively welcome believers in other faiths to worship with them. this is not something shared with christians or muslims. those religions tend to shame those of differing beliefs.
yhelothar
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You're the only retard here. Buddhism is hardly practiced anymore in India. Hinduism took over as the main religion there. As said before, buddhism is mostly practiced in east asia, and was practiced in China until the commies took over and banned religion.
Babbles
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It is an interesting and difficult thing to really understand. Keep in mind that the different schools of Buddhism do have different thoughts/opinions, just like any other religion (e.g. Christianity).
I think in what I would call more orthodox Buddhism, as opposed to this more common new-age "Buddhism", most Buddhist would all recognize the concept of "no-self" and, again, if there is no self there is nothing to be reincarnated in the sense that most people use the word reincarnate (i.e. being reborn into another person or animal). But, even that can get very complicated because you are the reincarnation of your grandmother because part of her became your mother which became you and you will become part of your child so you are being "born" into other bodies. . . again it is a very strange thing to explain and I would be fooling myself if I were to think I totally understood it.
Check out books by Thich Nhat Hanh, excellent writer and I am sure he can answer the questions quite well.
Malak
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My church has wide open doors, anyone can enter. But if you have no interest in our faith, you'd be wasting your time. I have both muslim and buddhist friends, and they know where I stand. If anything, my very religious blog attracts people, both Christian and otherwise. I've even had atheists post there.
I'll save you a lot of time, you don't need to read any books or learn any terms, attend any lectures or meditation groups, think or discuss, you don't need to do anything in fact. Buddhism is simple - as often as you can, just stop your thoughts, empty your mind, and let the moment happen without any expectations or judgements. If thoughts appear, just note them and go back to an empty mind. You do this as often as you can, and pretty soon you will understand the truth.
Babbles
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While that can be somewhat of an okay suggestion for more "experienced" people, that is really not good advice - in my opinion - for people wanting to learn more. A new person should have some sort of guidance, be it a book or a group (the sangha which even the Shakyamuni Buddha recognized as a valuable asset). One should understand the Eightfold Path and know what those ideals, so to speak, should be.
Simply sitting and having no-mind, good for experienced people, may be disingenuous, confusing, and even harmful for novices who lack some sort of guidance.
i've been looking into buddhism recently as well. my interest is more philosophical than religious, but anyhow, here is a great link that someone recently gave me:
http://www.buddhanet.net/
http://www.buddhanet.net/
Malak
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Everything I've read on karma, even from buddhists, tells me if you do good, good comes to you, and if you do bad, bad comes to you. In this life, that is not the case.
In the case of buddhism, there is a missing ingredient to it anyway, which is why taking the concept beyond this life only works in Christianity, not buddhism. Which leads to my previous comment that buddhism and Christianity follow the same path, and then go opposite ways at a point. This point is death.
Kadarin
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HC can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I have always understood Christianity as being all about accepting Jesus Christ as the Son of God within your heart, and achieving salvation through faith in Him. Love, inner peace, compassion, kindness, tolerance... These things, if they are there at all, are much, much farther down on the list.
Ask yourself this: How much fvcked up stuff was done throughout history in the name of Christianity, versus how much was done in the name of Buddhism?
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