Is there an app for that? Ipod question.

[highland145]

Looked in gadgets and didn't see anything helpful.

The boy, 11, has lost his ipod privileges for some undetermined amount of time because of his super secret gmail account. Really should have logged in via google instead of the ipod. Looking for a tracker (email, IM, chat, web). Found this but you have to "jailbreak" the ipod. I don't even know what that means but not sure I want to mess with the "OS"(?).

Surely there's an app I can put on it.

Help, please.

 

[webdave]

What are you trying to do, get the Google account password? Just ask your son for it, if he doesn't give it to you tell him no iPad, TV, games, etc... until he does. Or did he lose the password so you can't login? If so, go go Google pw recovery, https://www.google.com/accounts/rec...q5x6nWNVuohMR3pZXPGCvSpMQyqvophgCPemHkTQgoK2A

 

[Blackjack200]

Are you just looking to snoop his mail? If you know his login credentials you could set up another client and watch all the mail that comes in and goes out...

 

[highland145]

What are you trying to do, get the Google account password? Just ask your son for it, if he doesn't give it to you tell him no iPad, TV, games, etc... until he does. Or did he lose the password so you can't login?

I've got the ipod so I already have his mail. He's 11 so it's pretty stupid stuff. He's a good kid but it won't be long before the hormones hit and I'd rather be ahead of the curve for the chats/texts/email/face time before he can delete them.

Yes, I understand parenting. That's why I've acquired an ipod, tablet and netbook.

Can I create an alt account and give away 1 free ipod?:hmm:

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Use Apple Configurator and iPhone Configuration Utility to lock/manage the iPod/iPhone/iPad/iWhatever, so he can only access approved emails. (There are still potential ways around this, but...)

Or get him a 5" Android tablet and install a keylogger and phone home software.

 

[Ns1]

nm

 

[lxskllr]

Jailbreaking is just getting root access, which everyone should have on their devices. If you don't have root, it isn't your device. More immediately, what are your goals? If it's spying, I'm not sure I'd bother. It'll put your relationship in jeopardy, give you needless work, and if son has even the smallest of clues, it will be absolutely ineffective. Just consider the end game before you start.

 

[highland145]

Are you just looking to snoop his mail? If you know his login credentials you could set up another client and watch all the mail that comes in and goes out...

Was doing that last week, me on the couch with the laptop, him in the recliner...pretty boring. Then I figured out gmail has a forwarding setting so his mail came to my account automatically. Then....it stopped so I checked the ipod...new gmail account.

Yeah, mail, texts, chats, etc.

 

[highland145]

Use Apple Configurator and iPhone Configuration Utility to lock/manage the iPod/iPhone/iPad/iWhatever, so he can only access approved emails. (There are still potential ways around this, but...)

Or get him a 5" Android tablet and install a keylogger and phone home software.

What would stop him from logging in on the web?

Surely there's a key logger for apple products.

 

[Ns1]

Not trying to tell you how to parent but...

When my dad tried clamping down on me when I was a kid, that just made me more crafty.

There's a point when a kid becomes too crafty for their own good.

 

[highland145]

Jailbreaking is just getting root access, which everyone should have on their devices. If you don't have root, it isn't your device. More immediately, what are your goals? If it's spying, I'm not sure I'd bother. It'll put your relationship in jeopardy, give you needless work, and if son has even the smallest of clues, it will be absolutely ineffective. Just consider the end game before you start.

Yep. He's not getting unsupervised access if I can help it. Friends of ours 15 year old just had a baby. Mom would let her go on weekend trips with boys..."She's a good girl, she's been in church all her life." Sorry Mom, hormones trump church....I mean Grand Ma.

 

[lxskllr]

Yep. He's not getting unsupervised access if I can help it. Friends of ours 15 year old just had a baby. Mom would let her go on weekend trips with boys..."She's a good girl, she's been in church all her life." Sorry Mom, hormones trump church....I mean Grand Ma.

Where does it stop though? You can have the devices in the house locked down, but what about devices you don't control? What about the antique analog method of speaking, or using paper? I think instruction is better than control. In the end, quality instruction is the best you can do, as all overt controls can be subverted.

 

[highland145]

Not trying to tell you how to parent but...

When my dad tried clamping down on me when I was a kid, that just made me more crafty.

There's a point when a kid becomes too crafty for their own good.

I know and it's way easier now with the access kids have to technology. Probably a a losing battle on my end but I'm going to give it a shot..

 

[Ns1]

I know and it's way easier now with the access kids have to technology. Probably a a losing battle on my end but I'm going to give it a shot..

Well to give you an example..

If I, as a kid, found out my dad installed a keylogger on my IPOD...I would stop typing on my ipod and start using siri instead.

If I found out my dad was monitoring my gmail account, I'd adopt guerrilla tactics and start leaving emails in my draft box.

After that, I'd probably start fucking with him. Security through obfuscation.

 

[highland145]

Where does it stop though? You can have the devices in the house locked down, but what about devices you don't control? What about the antique analog method of speaking, or using paper? I think instruction is better than control. In the end, quality instruction is the best you can do, as all overt controls can be subverted.

You're right. My wife, the fam/marriage counselor, is an excellent parent. Me.....meh. He's had(and will continue to have) quality instruction but created a secret account anyway.

Maybe I should just meet out the punishment and leave it at that.

 

[highland145]

Well to give you an example..

If I, as a kid, found out my dad installed a keylogger on my IPOD...I would stop typing on my ipod and start using siri instead.

If I found out my dad was monitoring my gmail account, I'd adopt guerrilla tactics and start leaving emails in my draft box.

Like virus protection, always one virus behind.

 

[Ns1]

Like virus protection, always one virus behind.

Yeah but you'll push him to be crafty and to adapt, instead of being complacent and stupid.

anyway, not my battle so good luck

 

[highland145]

Yeah but you'll push him to be crafty and to adapt, instead of being complacent and stupid.

anyway, not my battle so good luck

That settles it, spy, spy, spy.

One day, kids will be the biggest blessing in your life. And, possibly, a bit of PITA too.

 

[ViRGE]

To answer the question, there's no way to keylog iOS devices without jailbreaking them. Apple has the device very locked down, so user-installed applications only run with minimal privileges and cannot interact with each other or run in the background (both things you need for a keylogged). Jailbreaking enables root access, bypassing those security mechanisms and giving you full access to the device, the kind of access required to perform keylogging.

The good news is that a jailbreak for iOS 6.1 will be coming out this weekend. The bad news is that the moment your son upgraded his device beyond that, you'd lose the jailbreak and consequently the keylogger.

 

[highland145]

To answer the question, there's no way to keylog iOS devices without jailbreaking them. Apple has the device very locked down, so user-installed applications only run with minimal privileges and cannot interact with each other or run in the background (both things you need for a keylogged). Jailbreaking enables root access, bypassing those security mechanisms and giving you full access to the device, the kind of access required to perform keylogging.

The good news is that a jailbreak for iOS 6.1 will be coming out this weekend. The bad news is that the moment your son upgraded his device beyond that, you'd lose the jailbreak and consequently the keylogger.

Thanks....um...not thanks.

We've talked about it this evening....we'll see. Good kid...fair Dad.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

You're right. My wife, the fam/marriage counselor, is an excellent parent. Me.....meh. He's had(and will continue to have) quality instruction but created a secret account anyway.

Maybe I should just meet out the punishment and leave it at that.

Meaning no disrespect, but... mete.

 

[Blackjack200]

Meaning no disrespect, but... mete.

when my gf needs to be "punished", I meat it out. :awe:

 

[MotionMan]

I was not a bad kid, but I was fairly devious. Also, since I was the third of three, my parents were pretty well broken in (or just plain broken). So, I have some experience on how to get away with stuff (and what happens when I get caught).

My kids (one older, one younger than OPs) both have iDevices and access to a common computer . I have set down certain rules about their use and, in general, have tried to teach them right from wrong. I also have a long history of following through with my threats.

My kids know that I will periodically review their iDevices and the computer, either while they sleep or upon random request.

My kids know that if they do something that is in clear violation of a rule or is simply wrong, they will lose their iDevice/computer access, either temporarily or permanently.

I have found that having this situation, rather than locking things down or having spy apps, has worked quite well for me.

I believe my kids are "good". I know they are compliant

MotionMan

 

[highland145]

MM,
looks like that's what I'm going to do, ground rules and spot checks. He's getting it back this evening. Told him he had to convince him Mom that he deserved it and could be trusted. She made it clear that I'm a network genius (NOT) and he would be found out for wrong doing.

Trolled 2 of the girls he'd been emailing with this on Monday night. Keep in mind they're 6th grade too.

System administration has found there to be malware associated with multiple gmail.com accounts. It is in your best interest to contact your network provider about this matter.


Yahoo.gmail.com

No emails since. One of them spotted me at the Bball game last night and quickly turned and went the other way.


Edit:Told Dave that I even googled it because I thought it was meete and I still got it wrong. Sad.