is there a way that avoiding from isp's monitor?

fatfatfat

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i wanna say that is there a way that avoiding isp's limitation ?
for example i have 20mbit connection and after 75gb download my speed down to 3mbit.
(sorry for my bad english.)
 

skyking

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No, and asking to get around an ISP's limitation is frowned on here. Many of the people here are professionals who are paid to enforce rules.
 

Fardringle

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Yes, there are a couple of ways to avoid the speed throttling after you go over your ISP's monthly data limit.

1) Don't go over the limit.
2) Pay more for a higher limit.
3) Get a different ISP.
 

JackMDS

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Yes, there are a couple of ways to avoid the speed throttling after you go over your ISP's monthly data limit.

1) Don't go over the limit.
2) Pay more for a higher limit.
3) Get a different ISP.

QFT.



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Red Squirrel

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You could get a VPS or dedicated server. If you're doing heavy downloading instead of doing it on your computer you remote into the server and do it from there. Of course you still need a way to get the files on your PC but depending on the nature of what you're doing you may only need a few of those files locally. Ex: torrents, you can download multiple copies of something but then just pull down the one that finished, and let it seed off the VPS. Or if you know someone who has a better ISP you could do it through them and have them mail you a USB stick or hard drive.

Sucks that there are still caps in this day and age though. I'm lucky that my ISP has none.

Small things to do too is make sure you don't leave web pages open like Facebook. A lot of web pages now will auto refresh to keep the content up to date, but if it's minimized and you're not actually using it this will use up bandwidth. If you have any kind of off site backup job you could use removable media and a safety deposit box instead, as well.
 

fatfatfat

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No way unfortunately.

Either pay for more download limit or download less.

well thats too much if you live in a third world country. (minimum wage = 356$)

our isp sells with title like this `limitless internet 24mbit for 25$` but after 50gb or 75gb internet speed down to 3mbit.

why? because there is a bullshit which is `Fair Usage Policy` for limitless internet.

unless you u pay `limitless limitless 24mbit for 86$`

i am talking about 24mbit internet... romania gets 1000gbit internet for 20-30 euro or something. i just cant say anything... this is so embrassing in 2015
 

JackMDS

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our isp sells with title like this `limitless internet 24mbit for 25$` but after 50gb or 75gb internet speed down to 3mbit.

I have news for you my friend, many people in the USA have less than 24 Mb/sec. and their throttling start lower than 75 GB.

With all due respect this more than enough for normal usage by Normal people.

Business (if needed) can afford to pay more.

As for supporting Torrent, Extreme Movies and Music streaming. That is another kind of debate for another day.



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XavierMace

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With all due respect this more than enough for normal usage by Normal people.

May I ask what you are defining as "normal". Because 50-75Gb in a month is super easy to exceed without doing anything remotely excessive, especially in a multiuser home.
 

Fardringle

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My kids watch Netflix a LOT, and I work from home including sometimes transferring a good number of files between computers over the Internet. And I still rarely go over 75GB in a month.
 

JackMDS

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May I ask what you are defining as "normal". Because 50-75Gb in a month is super easy to exceed without doing anything remotely excessive, especially in a multiuser home.

Example:

My kids watch Netflix a LOT, and I work from home including sometimes transferring a good number of files between computers over the Internet. And I still rarely go over 75GB in a month.

That said, there are problems in 3rd world countries and they do need Help to get forward.

However, Internet bandwidth that is throttled after 75 GB is Not one of them.



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azazel1024

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My kids watch Netflix a LOT, and I work from home including sometimes transferring a good number of files between computers over the Internet. And I still rarely go over 75GB in a month.

It can't be that much. In my household between my kids, my wife and myself we probably average 4hrs a day of Netflix between all of us, which is probably 80% of our bandwidth usage in a typical month. A bit of SFTP stuff, family/work related is probably another 10% and the last 10% is email, internet surfing, facebook, youtube and music streaming.

We average about 500GB a month.

I don't think you could watch a lot of Netflix and be under 75GB, unless a lot is 1hr or less a day and not generally in HD (a typical Netflix HD stream is 7-9Mbps, or about 3.5GB an hour, times 30 days is about 100GB a month per hour a day of watching).
 

Fardringle

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It can't be that much. In my household between my kids, my wife and myself we probably average 4hrs a day of Netflix between all of us, which is probably 80% of our bandwidth usage in a typical month. A bit of SFTP stuff, family/work related is probably another 10% and the last 10% is email, internet surfing, facebook, youtube and music streaming.

We average about 500GB a month.

I don't think you could watch a lot of Netflix and be under 75GB, unless a lot is 1hr or less a day and not generally in HD (a typical Netflix HD stream is 7-9Mbps, or about 3.5GB an hour, times 30 days is about 100GB a month per hour a day of watching).

They watch between 2-4 hours of Netflix almost every day. Sometimes more than that. I frequently add an hour or three watching my favorite old shows as well. Some are in HD, some are not. Even the HD 2 hour movies don't use the 3.5GB you claimed, and most 45 minute TV episodes are roughly 250-350MB. On some computers I work on I transfer as much as 300-500MB of repair tools, although that's the higher end. I work on anywhere from a handful to several dozen computers every day.

I have gone over 100GB a few times, when I'm actively downloading really big stuff in addition to the normal usage, but not often.
 

XavierMace

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Example:



That said, there are problems in 3rd world countries and they do need Help to get forward.

However, Internet bandwidth that is throttled after 75 GB is Not one of them.



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Apparently you don't have any Steam/Origin users in your house either. New games are getting ever larger. Two users downloading a new AAA title is often 20Gb+. Witcher 3 is 30Gb. Two users buying that is 60Gb by itself. That's one game, hardly excessive.
 

RadiclDreamer

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May I ask what you are defining as "normal". Because 50-75Gb in a month is super easy to exceed without doing anything remotely excessive, especially in a multiuser home.

Absolutely, my kids watch craploads of youtube, the wife is a hulu, amazon, and netflix addict, I play steam games and then we all do various browsing and normal patching, we get close to 1TB per month combined. I consume more now with the legal stuff than i ever did in my pirate days.
 

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Apparently you don't have any Steam/Origin users in your house either. New games are getting ever larger. Two users downloading a new AAA title is often 20Gb+. Witcher 3 is 30Gb. Two users buying that is 60Gb by itself. That's one game, hardly excessive.

If running on ISPs with low data caps, that's easily mitigated by network sharing the steam folder (read permissions) and copy pasting the game between computers, then using steams "install"/play button, though :p.

It isn't as simple as just having steam download it though, and some people probably wouldn't bother learning to do that even given low data caps.

It would be nice of the OPs ISP to throttle to ~6Mbit after the cap, to allow for users streaming netflix/youtube/etc in HD, but 3Mbit is fine for SD and general web browsing/emails.
 
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Red Squirrel

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This thread makes me happy I have unlimited bandwidth. Just youtube videos, web browsing, offsite backups etc... it adds up. I've used well over 1TB at times if I'm actually pushing it. It's not really hard when you have a faster connection. In the last 30 days I used 40GB down and 39GB up. Been a slow month internet wise, this is just casual usage. In fact this seems low, I should double check that all my backups are running...

I think best bet for OP is sneakernet for the big files. Have someone else with an unlimited connection download and mail the files through postal mail.

Harder to do with stuff like steam though, where it's more involved than just putting a file somewhere.
 

fatfatfat

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It would be nice of the OPs ISP to throttle to ~6Mbit after the cap, to allow for users streaming netflix/youtube/etc in HD, but 3Mbit is fine for SD and general web browsing/emails.

It was 1mbit but they changed it to 3mbit. And i dont know why you guys are saying 50gb is normal in 2015.
 

Fardringle

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It was 1mbit but they changed it to 3mbit. And i dont know why you guys are saying 50gb is normal in 2015.

Because MOST people don't use that much data. Sure, folks that are likely to visit tech forums like this probably do, but the average user doesn't go anywhere near their ISP's data cap. The cap is there for the unusual person that uses more than average.
 

piasabird

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If your boss pays you to work from home he should pay for your business level broadband package.
 

azazel1024

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They watch between 2-4 hours of Netflix almost every day. Sometimes more than that. I frequently add an hour or three watching my favorite old shows as well. Some are in HD, some are not. Even the HD 2 hour movies don't use the 3.5GB you claimed, and most 45 minute TV episodes are roughly 250-350MB. On some computers I work on I transfer as much as 300-500MB of repair tools, although that's the higher end. I work on anywhere from a handful to several dozen computers every day.

I have gone over 100GB a few times, when I'm actively downloading really big stuff in addition to the normal usage, but not often.

Dunno, maybe you are getting lower quality netflix streams than I am seeing. Over than some of the SD only content from Netflix, I am seeing in the 7-9Mbps range for their HD content and it adds up.

I don't think I've had less than 300GB in a month in a couple of years with the exception of months we've been out of town for significant portions of the month. Very little of our bandwidth is used for non-Netflix related content, at most 30GB in a month is non-Netflix.