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Is there a term for the situation that people incorrectly label as irony?

Locut0s

Locut0s

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So one of the top 5 pet peeves people seem to have all over the place is not understanding what irony is. People seem to mislabel irony all the time. For example.

IRONY
Women is a member of M.A.D.D and campaigns tirelessly against drunk drivers. One day she is arrested for a hit and run that kills a pedestrian, she is found to be driving under the influence.

NOT IRONY
Same women as above. She is one day crossing the street when a drunk driver swerves to miss an accident and hits and kills her.

People often incorrectly mislabel the 2nd type of situation irony when it's obviously not. BUT is there a an actual term for this type of situation?

One could define it as an incident that occurs to someone that is shocking and or unexpected but one that CONFORMS to the characters personality or actions (instead of being counter to them in actual Irony).
 
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Ironic.

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Eli said:
So.. you're saying that rain on your wedding day isn't ironic?

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Kind of on the edge there. But yeah I think many would agree it is. One has to have en expectation that everyone can agree upon for something to be ironic. And the outcome has to be counter to that expectation in some way. One expects your wedding day to be happy sure. But rain on your wedding day isn't necessarily universally agreed upon to ruin everything. Also people don't necessarily universally expect it to be sunny on your wedding day.
 
Eli said:
So.. you're saying that rain on your wedding day isn't ironic?

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Now if the wedding location was Fiji and it had been specifically chosen because of the tropical sun and sand, and THEN it rains. That's more ironic.
 
Locut0s said:
Now if the wedding location was Fiji and it had been specifically chosen because of the tropical sun and sand, and THEN it rains. That's more ironic.
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How about San Diego, where we average about 4 inches of rainfall a year. That would make it ironic.

I bet Fiji gets a lot more rain than SoCal does.
 
coincidence or "hmm, isn't that interesting?"

or "bet she didn't see that one coming!"



...kinda like Lou Gherig dieing of Lou Gherig's disease. His parents should have named him Herman!

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Ironic is befitting to the 2nd situation. It is ironic that she is an advocate against drunk driving, and she was hit by a drunk driver.

The first scenario is hypocritical.
 
zinfamous said:
coincidence or "hmm, isn't that interesting?"

or "bet she didn't see that one coming!"



...kinda like Lou Gherig dieing of Lou Gherig's disease. His parents should have named him Herman!

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We should coin a new term. NOT IRONY BITCH! I can just see it being introduced in high school. Now yesterday kids we learned about Irony, today we are going to learn about it's even twin brother NOT IRONY BITCH. You must lean to distinguish the two!
 
Locut0s said:
IRONY
Women is a member of M.A.D and campaigns tirelessly against drunk drivers. One day she is arrested for a hit and run that kills a pedestrian, she is found to be driving under the influence.
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That's HYPOCRISY.

...and it's actually M.A.D.D.
 
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Tweak155 said:
Ironic is befitting to the 2nd situation. It is ironic that she is an advocate against drunk driving, and she was hit by a drunk driver.

The first scenario is hypocritical.
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no, being hit by a drunk driver would simply reinforce her argument. It would not be "unexpected" in any way.

But I agree that the first situation is simply hypocritical, not really ironic.

This is unlike a fundy homophobe coming out to be the super gay. These days, that is simply expected.
 
zinfamous said:
no, being hit by a drunk driver would simply reinforce her argument. It would not be "unexpected" in any way.

But I agree that the first situation is simply hypocritical, not really ironic.

This is unlike a fundy homophobe coming out to be the super gay. These days, that is simply expected.
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I suppose it would be ironic if she supplied the alcohol to the driver that hit her.
 
Locut0s said:
Kind of on the edge there. But yeah I think many would agree it is. One has to have en expectation that everyone can agree upon for something to be ironic. And the outcome has to be counter to that expectation in some way. One expects your wedding day to be happy sure. But rain on your wedding day isn't necessarily universally agreed upon to ruin everything. Also people don't necessarily universally expect it to be sunny on your wedding day.
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Isn't rain on your wedding day supposed to be good luck? I thought I heard that somewhere.
 
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