Is there a silent majority that will decide this election?

[sportage]

Only 8 more weeks kiddies.
Three debates to come.
Could they make the difference?
Personally, I'd bet most have already made up their minds by now debate or no debate.

Isn't Hillary suppose to have this election in the bag, considering ALL the minority vote are going her way?
I mean, blacks are voting for Hillary, Hispanics are voting for Hillary, Muslims are voting for Hillary.
So what is the problem here?
How then could Trump possibly win with all the minority vote going to Hillary?
In the past, were not that minority vote the deciding factor?
How then could Donald Trump possible win?
Explain THAT to me....

Yet, polls are once again moving in Trump's favor.
So either this minority vote isn't enough to swing the election, or it is assumed the minority vote will not turn out as expected, or the minority vote is way overblown.
Explain THAT to me....

I still believe we do in fact have a silent majority that will decide this election.
However, are these silenced voters pissed off Sanders supported voting Trump?
Or disgruntled anti-immigrant democrats leaning republican?
Or those new registered voters all in for Trump?
Where do these silent majority voters come from?
Who do they support?
Are they Hispanics voting for Hillary? Blacks going with Hillary?
Independents turned off by Trump and voting Hillary?
Explain THAT to me....

Do we have this silent majority, poised and more importantly "motivated" enough to run with Hillary?
Motivated enough to believe it matters?
And motivated enough to actually get out and vote Hillary?

Just 8 more weeks.
Time passes fast when you never want it to, and drags by when you prefer it fly by.
Can you believe it's been 7 years since Michael jackson died?
Yet the 8 upcoming weeks will seem like an eternity.

 

[shortylickens]

I bet a lot of people are planning to vote for Trump but wont admit it in public. Too much hate and discontent.

I bet a crapload of people were planning to vote for Bernie and dont know what to do with themselves.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

My next door neighbor (a Hispanic with a Greenpeace sticker on his hybrid Explorer, lol) currently has four Trump signs in his front yard. Helps that the neighborhood is guard-gated though, probably wouldn't want a brick through a window.

I still think Clinton is going to win, although I'm not feeling a blow out like I did for most of the year.

 

[sportage]

I don't know...
All the people I know that are definitely voting for Trump are not shy about it.
They make it quite clear their reasoning is with absolutely despising Hillary Clinton.
I know a lot of these Trump people, most within my sweet loving family.
And I know for a fact they HATE Hispanics and think they are taking over America including the Walmart's. They HATE Muslims and especially Muslim women that wear those head scarfs (hijab). And oddly enough they very much dislike blacks even though three of the family are either married to or have children with someone from the black race.
And dare not mention the phrase BLACK LIVES MATTER to them.
Is that a bigot or a hypocrite?
And they pretend to put up with the gays, even thought they feel and their pentecostal religion tells them that all gays are going straight to hell which they too totally and completely agree with.

But exactly why are they voting for Trump?
They will always and proudly proclaim... Hillary hate. GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrR RRR... Grr...
And I suppose a huge dose of old fashion uppity women hate tossed in there as well.
It is actually kind of weird....
Those women Trump supporters that despise Hillary will come down on Hillary the hardest because Hillary dare be woman seeking the presidency.
I guess that is some carry over thing from mother to daughter, where the women must stay in there place.
And only a woman can tear apart another woman like only a woman can.
And thus they, the women, hate and despise the uppity Hillary beast.
They make me sad.
I know they know better.... Damn assholes.

 

[compuwiz1]

I was having a beer a couple nights ago with a friend and the TV above the bar was showing Trump and Clinton saying stuff, but we couldn't hear because the volume was turned down. I looked over and asked him what he thought about the whole thing and who did he think was gonna win? He said, if you look at the polls, sometimes I think Clinton, sometimes I think Trump, but the polls shift. I said I realize that, but in your gut who do you think is gonna win? He was like...I don't know. I pressed him again, who do you think will win....who would you like to win? He looked around him, looked at the bartender, then leaned over and sort of whispered...Trump. So, I asked, why do you think that? He said, I really don't want to talk about this in here. Whatever. We drank a couple more beers and shot the shit about misc stuff.

We finally tabbed out and headed out the door. Once in the parking lot, I asked him why he was so quiet about his thoughts on the election? He said there are so many people around that will call you names, racist, etc., if you show that you support Trump. He feels there are many like himself, who are afraid to be vocal about it. If that's the silent majority, it might make sense. In all fairness though, I don't find many people who openly support Clinton either. Who knows??? I find more support, for both candidates, in anonymous forums, where people can post what they think.

As for me, I'm completely off both candidates. If I had a choice I'd like a new election process with new candidates. This ain't cutting it!

 

[trenchfoot]

My gut tells me the silent majority will vote in favor of Hillary as there can't be that many folks listening to Conservative whackjob AM radio and FOX so as to form them into a majority voting for Trump.

That being said, one of the very few things that keeps Trump's leaky boat afloat is the RNC's very effective efforts at planting the seeds of doubt about Hillary whether it be her health, her honesty, or her storied past with Slick Willie. And all this as Trump keeps shooting more holes in his boat while his loyal base of far right retards furiously bail water by the thimble-full.

I think it quite elegant that when Trump and the RNC spin machine attacks Hillary, there seems to be more acceptance of their innuendo and rumor mongering of her among the populace when compared with Hillary and the DNC describing the obvious truths about Trump.

And let's not discount the fact that the mass media is, in classic Enquirer fashion, pushing anything and everything that keeps the race close, truth be damned.

Also, there's this perception that a lot of folks would much rather like to hear hair raising gossip about Hillary rather than the boring facts about Trump and his sensationalist glib ramblings.

Weird, yet quite apparent from my viewpoint.

 

[shady28]

Look at your own experiences and responses and you can clearly see where the silent / suppressed group of voters are.

Even the vaunted lefty Jack Silver has talked about this - how Trump polls much better when a survey is conducted via a machine or online poll vs a human calling. He says he doesn't understand it, but he is just being PC (else he is an idiot).

Social and physical violence from the left can, and I think has, lost them this election.

I bet a lot of people are planning to vote for Trump but wont admit it in public. Too much hate and discontent.
....

...He said there are so many people around that will call you names, racist, etc., if you show that you support Trump. He feels there are many like himself, who are afraid to be vocal about it..........

My next door neighbor (a Hispanic with a Greenpeace sticker on his hybrid Explorer, lol) currently has four Trump signs in his front yard. Helps that the neighborhood is guard-gated though, probably wouldn't want a brick through a window.

 

[sm625]

It is funny how I get infractions for simply mentioning words like democrat and welfare in the same sentence. Yet this OP is completely riddled with racism. Newslfash. Not every member of a minority will vote for Clinton. That is an outrageously racist idea. Instead of thinking about this "silent majority", start thinking about the "silent minority". Rest assured there are a LOT of folks in ethnic minorities who cant stand Clinton, cant stand what she represents, and recognize that this country is being transformed into one giant Flint Michigan by these people. And they cant stand it. And who are they going to talk to about it? Most of the people they know are other minorities, and the perception is that they all support Clinton, the status quo, and the ongoing destruction of this country. There is a wall of perception that traps minorities into a way of thinking. These walls of perception are what cause political neophites to be so shocked when things like brexit happen. Those walls are not real and can be torn down in an instant.

Your first sentence, bolded by me, is both a mod call out and a bald-faced lie.

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[sm625]

If you truly want to understand this election, take a look at Obama's book sales in 2008. Nearly a million copies of his books sold in 2008, before the election. Now how many copies of Hillary's new book has she sold? 2900 copies in its first week. Why? Because everyone already knows about her. There is no enthusiasm about her. There is no curiosity. There is no hope. There isnt even the promise of change. There is just the blind acceptance of more of the same. And why? Because the people who control the media are all in the top 1%, and they have made so much damn money off of our current system that they are scared to death of changing it. And they will do whatever they can to keep the gravy train rolling for as long as it can. That's all this election is about... How many people are under their thumb?

 

[Vic]

The silent majority this time around are the 19th amendment people.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think it quite elegant that when Trump and the RNC spin machine attacks Hillary, there seems to be more acceptance of their innuendo and rumor mongering of her among the populace when compared with Hillary and the DNC describing the obvious truths about Trump.

And let's not discount the fact that the mass media is, in classic Enquirer fashion, pushing anything and everything that keeps the race close, truth be damned.

Too true. At this point, Trump has managed to degrade discourse to the level of grunts & gossip.

I thought we were supposed to be an advanced civilization rather than Medieval witch burners.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yeah, that's one theory, that there are people who want to vote for Trump who are too embarrassed to admit it. Here's another. A vote for Trump is a kind of angry protest vote. But many who are saying they will vote for Trump for that reason will change their minds at the voting booth, thinking, nah, I'm angry, but not angry enough to vote for him. Kind of like what happens with people who vote third party, which is also kind of a protest vote. They say they will do it to the pollsters but change their minds when the time comes.

 

[flexy]

An "angry protest vote" "against the establishment".

GOOD RIDDANCE.

Anyone knows that Trump "won't do shit" and that a corrupt career politician, as establishment as it can even get, PENCE, will make the most decisions. So..here you have your "anti establishment", even this is a lie.

 

[Cozarkian]

An "angry protest vote" "against the establishment".

GOOD RIDDANCE.

Anyone knows that Trump "won't do shit" and that a corrupt career politician, as establishment as it can even get, PENCE, will make the most decisions. So..here you have your "anti establishment", even this is a lie.

I agree with the sentiment here, Trump has not behaved as an anti-politician. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth, makes statements without regard for factual accuracy, keeps secrets, and there is no indication he won't "exchange favors" just as readily as the politicians he used to bribe.

 

[dainthomas]

I still think Clinton is going to win, although I'm not feeling a blow out like I did for most of the year.

Agreed. As close as it is, she has to be feeling like Gore did in 2000. Him losing to that potted plant has to be one of the biggest choke jobs in history.

 

[woolfe9998]

I agree with the sentiment here, Trump has not behaved as an anti-politician. He speaks out of both sides of his mouth, makes statements without regard for factual accuracy, keeps secrets, and there is no indication he won't "exchange favors" just as readily as the politicians he used to bribe.

Kerry losing to the potted plant in 2004 was actually a much bigger choke. By that time, we'd seen that Bush was more than merely vacuous but actually dangerous. And Kerry lost by a bigger margin. Gore at least won the popular vote.

 

[dainthomas]

Kerry losing to the potted plant in 2004 was actually a much bigger choke. By that time, we'd seen that Bush was more than merely vacuous but actually dangerous. And Kerry lost by a bigger margin. Gore at least won the popular vote.

Good point.

I think that's when things really took a nosedive regarding elections (thanks to the swiftboaters). An intelligent decorated combat veteran losing to a former Ivy League cheerleader with a staggering record of ineptitude is mind boggling.

 

[shortylickens]

FYI:

I despise Trump. I plan to vote Libertarian again this election.
Given that Trumps nature, and the nature of his supporters, is about bullying and ignorance and cowardice, I am not surprised at the hate directed toward them, nor am I surprised that many are now silent and simply waiting for election day.
However, for a brief while it quite refreshing to see how many overt racists and sexists we still had here in the 21st century.

 

[Jhhnn]

Kerry losing to the potted plant in 2004 was actually a much bigger choke. By that time, we'd seen that Bush was more than merely vacuous but actually dangerous. And Kerry lost by a bigger margin. Gore at least won the popular vote.

2004 was incumbency, 9/11 9/11 9/11, support the troops, breaking Terrarist! balls at Gitmo, swift boating and "global consent". It was Merricuh! Hell Yeah!

The false prosperity of war profiteering & the Ownership Society was riding high.

Kerry never had a prayer.

 

[woolfe9998]

2004 was incumbency, 9/11 9/11 9/11, support the troops, breaking Terrarist! balls at Gitmo, swift boating and "global consent". It was Merricuh! Hell Yeah!

The false prosperity of war profiteering & the Ownership Society was riding high.

Kerry never had a prayer.

Well, it was incumbency, but by the '04 election the Iraq War had become unpopular. No WMD's found + Abu Graib. Bush was vulnerable.

 

[shady28]

Well, it was incumbency, but by the '04 election the Iraq War had become unpopular. No WMD's found + Abu Graib. Bush was vulnerable.

He was, which the people here who like to try to control narratives don't realize. I didn't vote for him in 04. Mostly due to the "patriot act", things like looking at people's library book check-outs to profile them, Guantanamo, etc.

Of course, that invasion of privacy and erosion of core individual rights just continued to get worse under Obama, just as it has every establishment candidate for the past 30+ years. I think it took all of 3 weeks for Obama to go from a change candidate to establishment.

There are many people who simply want a non-establishment candidate at this point, someone who isn't going to sell out. Obviously there are more of them on the right than on the left, witness the drubbing Jeb got while the Dems nominated Hillary (albeit under dubious circumstances).

 

[1prophet]

Trump can't win just like he can't win the republican primaries, the establishment types tell me so.

 

[Jhhnn]

He was, which the people here who like to try to control narratives don't realize. I didn't vote for him in 04. Mostly due to the "patriot act", things like looking at people's library book check-outs to profile them, Guantanamo, etc.

Of course, that invasion of privacy and erosion of core individual rights just continued to get worse under Obama, just as it has every establishment candidate for the past 30+ years. I think it took all of 3 weeks for Obama to go from a change candidate to establishment.

There are many people who simply want a non-establishment candidate at this point, someone who isn't going to sell out. Obviously there are more of them on the right than on the left, witness the drubbing Jeb got while the Dems nominated Hillary (albeit under dubious circumstances).

So, a born rich wheeler-dealer billionaire reality TV star with business interests spanning the globe is somehow non-establishment?

The only thing non-establishment about Trump is the level of crass obnoxiousness that's his trademark.

Vote Trump! Vote Vulgarian!

 

[Starbuck1975]

2004 was incumbency, 9/11 9/11 9/11, support the troops, breaking Terrarist! balls at Gitmo, swift boating and "global consent". It was Merricuh! Hell Yeah!

The false prosperity of war profiteering & the Ownership Society was riding high.

Kerry never had a prayer.

No we were well past the wave of 'murica and Democrats were finally finding their voice and the courage to oppose the WOT. Kerry was positioned well to win and fumbled worst than Gore.

Although if Clinton loses to Trump that will be the greatest choke of all time. OF ALL TIME

 

[1sikbITCH]

I don't know...
All the people I know that are definitely voting for Trump are not shy about it.
They make it quite clear their reasoning is with absolutely despising Hillary Clinton.
I know a lot of these Trump people, most within my sweet loving family.
And I know for a fact they HATE Hispanics and think they are taking over America including the Walmart's. They HATE Muslims and especially Muslim women that wear those head scarfs (hijab). And oddly enough they very much dislike blacks even though three of the family are either married to or have children with someone from the black race.
And dare not mention the phrase BLACK LIVES MATTER to them.
Is that a bigot or a hypocrite?
And they pretend to put up with the gays, even thought they feel and their pentecostal religion tells them that all gays are going straight to hell which they too totally and completely agree with.

But exactly why are they voting for Trump?
They will always and proudly proclaim... Hillary hate. GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrR RRR... Grr...
And I suppose a huge dose of old fashion uppity women hate tossed in there as well.
It is actually kind of weird....
Those women Trump supporters that despise Hillary will come down on Hillary the hardest because Hillary dare be woman seeking the presidency.
I guess that is some carry over thing from mother to daughter, where the women must stay in there place.
And only a woman can tear apart another woman like only a woman can.
And thus they, the women, hate and despise the uppity Hillary beast.
They make me sad.
I know they know better.... Damn assholes.

Agreed. The only local Trump supporters I am personally blessed to know are the rednecks and trailer park folks who see Trump as a big broom to sweep away the darkies. The only Trump Policies they care about are his willingness to use nukes and the crusades against Mexicans and Muslims. To a woman (and a few men) they are quite excited about going to war because they are so scared of anyone who is not lily white. They have not one clue of his economic policies and truthfully they are mostly on welfare already anyhow. It truly is deplorable.