Is there a problem in this country that McCain won't fix with more taxcuts?

[Jhhnn]

Interesting article, here-

http://www.americanprogressact...s/2008/tax_agenda.html

First he was against the Bush cuts, now he's all for 'em, and a lot more, too.

I don't think the man actually believes in anything, other than winning, and saying what's expedient to do so... pandering to the Fundies and now the rabid anti-tax crowd...

 

[RichardE]

He doesn't know anything about the financial market at all, something he has stated publicly on many occasions.

 

[gorobei]

very equal time. expect PJ to post soon.

 

[miketheidiot]

you mean cut & borrow?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: gorobei
very equal time. expect PJ to post soon.

Except I quoted right from Obama and he is using a third party anti-McCain site to make his point.

 

[ProfJohn]

Anyone who wants to read what McCain is saying himself should go here.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

At this rate, with entitlement programs and debt bulging, with the dollar falling, we're on our way out. We may as well expand our empire as much as possible so at least we have some shiny, hard, tangible assets to hang onto during the restructuring.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

At this rate, with entitlement programs and debt bulging, with the dollar falling, we're on our way out. We may as well expand our empire as much as possible so at least we have some shiny, hard, tangible assets to hang onto during the restructuring.

Anyone remember the SURPLUS we had under Clinton?
Anyone even know that the DEMOCRATS tried to enact the same process that gave us the surplus, PAGO, when they took back the CONGRESS and the REPUBLICANS filibustered it?

A VOTE for JOHN MCSAME is a vote for the BUSH economic disaster to continue.

AND
Originally posted by: eits
the benefit of having the government decide where the money goes is that they're smarter than you and they know more about things than you.
from NEBOR's sig shows how wrong and misguided he is. Just look at how smart people were when millions took out sub prime loans they couldn't afford.

It's very simple. Only fools and and those blinded by propaganda think voting REPUBLICAN is good for the US economy.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

Well it's a good thing Obama has already come up with the funding for all of his grand ideas. Oh wait, he hasn't. Both candidates are just going to take us further into debt, good thing they have people like you on both sides that would rather focus on the shortcomings of "the other side" instead of their own.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

At this rate, with entitlement programs and debt bulging, with the dollar falling, we're on our way out. We may as well expand our empire as much as possible so at least we have some shiny, hard, tangible assets to hang onto during the restructuring.

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
And yet they were voted in the office....twice.

Where are all them bush supporters?

Probably cheering "4 more years."

I'd vote for him again. Or support any other method he used to remain in power.

I wonder how people even consider your posts when you are willing to overthrow the Constitution because you think Bush did such a great job

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

At this rate, with entitlement programs and debt bulging, with the dollar falling, we're on our way out. We may as well expand our empire as much as possible so at least we have some shiny, hard, tangible assets to hang onto during the restructuring.

Anyone remember the SURPLUS we had under Clinton?
Anyone even know that the DEMOCRATS tried to enact the same process that gave us the surplus, PAGO, when they took back the CONGRESS and the REPUBLICANS filibustered it?

A VOTE for JOHN MCSAME is a vote for the BUSH economic disaster to continue.

AND
Originally posted by: eits
the benefit of having the government decide where the money goes is that they're smarter than you and they know more about things than you.
from NEBOR's sig shows how wrong and misguided he is. Just look at how smart people were when millions took out sub prime loans they couldn't afford.

It's very simple. Only fools and and those blinded by propaganda think voting REPUBLICAN is good for the US economy.

Oh, you mean back when we had a Republican congress and a Democratic President? The fools are the ones that haven't learned how detrimental it is to this country when one party controls both congress AND the White House.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

At this rate, with entitlement programs and debt bulging, with the dollar falling, we're on our way out. We may as well expand our empire as much as possible so at least we have some shiny, hard, tangible assets to hang onto during the restructuring.

Anyone remember the SURPLUS we had under Clinton?
Anyone even know that the DEMOCRATS tried to enact the same process that gave us the surplus, PAGO, when they took back the CONGRESS and the REPUBLICANS filibustered it?

A VOTE for JOHN MCSAME is a vote for the BUSH economic disaster to continue.

AND
Originally posted by: eits
the benefit of having the government decide where the money goes is that they're smarter than you and they know more about things than you.
from NEBOR's sig shows how wrong and misguided he is. Just look at how smart people were when millions took out sub prime loans they couldn't afford.

It's very simple. Only fools and and those blinded by propaganda think voting REPUBLICAN is good for the US economy.

Oh, you mean back when we had a Republican congress and a Democratic President? The fools are the ones that haven't learned how detrimental it is to this country when one party controls both congress AND the White House.

PAGO was enacted when the Congress was still Democratic. Then the Democrats were able to filibuster the Republicans when they tried to destroy it.
Pay attention, there is real history, not made up Republican fantasy.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: techs

PAGO was enacted when the Congress was still Democratic. Then the Democrats were able to filibuster the Republicans when they tried to destroy it.
Pay attention, there is real history, not made up Republican fantasy.

Don't worry Techs, I'm sure your beloved Democrats will all swoop in and save the day. We should just kick all Republicans out of office and have the government be 100 percent Democrat, that'd fix everything.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Anyone who wants to read what McCain is saying himself should go here.

Anyone who believes anything McCains says should jump into the slurry pits of your nearest corporate hog farm. They have lakes full of pure pig shit, but if you do demand only bullshit, please examine the McCain or GWB record.

A short term temporary holiday from either gas taxes or keeping the Federal Petroleum reserve full, is only a nothing counter productive solution. A few months down the road, we are still reduced to drinking GOP pig shit.

But evidently non Prof John still thinks its the breakfast of champions. Obama has correctly labeled it for what its is, pandering by Hillary or McCain changes nothing about the relative merits of interspecies shit.

Take my word for it, I live in a rural area, and nothing smells worse than concentrated pigshit.

 

[glenn1]

From the article:

The key provisions of McCain's tax agenda are:

* Extend Bush?s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts
* Cut the corporate tax rate
* Allow expensing of corporate investments
* Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax

McCain Cannot Pay for His Plan without draconian Spending Cuts

*Massively cut education, energy, and law enforcement.
* Massively cut Social Security and Medicare

So what's the problem? Sounds good to me.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: techs

PAGO was enacted when the Congress was still Democratic. Then the Democrats were able to filibuster the Republicans when they tried to destroy it.
Pay attention, there is real history, not made up Republican fantasy.

Don't worry Techs, I'm sure your beloved Democrats will all swoop in and save the day. We should just kick all Republicans out of office and have the government be 100 percent Democrat, that'd fix everything.

Now thats just crazy talk under most circumstances. But considering the financial debacle caused by the Republicans and their continued determination to borrow and spend us into disaster, in this case your supposedly facetious remark happens to be true.
Thats how bad the Republicans have been.

 

[bamacre]

Anyone who can't now see that invading Iraq was a mistake needs to work at McDonald's flipping hamburgers and has no business being in the White House.

 

[Rio Rebel]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Anyone who can't now see that invading Iraq was a mistake needs to work at McDonald's flipping hamburgers and has no business being in the White House.

I think flipping burgers may be a stretch for Dubya. I'd start him washing lettuce...then put him on fries...and let him work his way up to the grill.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel

Originally posted by: bamacre
Anyone who can't now see that invading Iraq was a mistake needs to work at McDonald's flipping hamburgers and has no business being in the White House.

I think flipping burgers may be a stretch for Dubya. I'd start him washing lettuce...then put him on fries...and let him work his way up to the grill.

Just keep him off the drive-thru window.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel

Originally posted by: bamacre
Anyone who can't now see that invading Iraq was a mistake needs to work at McDonald's flipping hamburgers and has no business being in the White House.

I think flipping burgers may be a stretch for Dubya. I'd start him washing lettuce...then put him on fries...and let him work his way up to the grill.

I wasn't talking about Bush, I was referring to McCain.

 

[rockyct]

If tax cuts won't solve the problem, the free market will.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, right, PJ, except that McCain doesn't say how we're gonna pay for the taxcuts we already have, the ones he was against before he was for 'em, let alone the ones he's proposing...

Which is the whole point- it's just more of the bread and circuses we've come to expect from repubs, the party of fiscal responsibility, remember?

There is no party of fiscal responsibility. Just because it's not the Republicans doesn't mean the Democrats are it.

No, the fact that democratic deficits have been relatively small, the eight years of deficit reduction leading to a surplus under Clinton, the last balanced budget before than with LBJ -

Those are reasons the democrats are the arty of fiscal responsibility, not just that they're not Republicans.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: glenn1
From the article:

The key provisions of McCain's tax agenda are:

* Extend Bush?s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts
* Cut the corporate tax rate
* Allow expensing of corporate investments
* Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax

McCain Cannot Pay for His Plan without draconian Spending Cuts

*Massively cut education, energy, and law enforcement.
* Massively cut Social Security and Medicare

So what's the problem? Sounds good to me.

The kids, think of the kids!

btw I give him props for at least addressing the alternative min tax.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: glenn1
From the article:

The key provisions of McCain's tax agenda are:

* Extend Bush?s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts
* Cut the corporate tax rate
* Allow expensing of corporate investments
* Repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax

McCain Cannot Pay for His Plan without draconian Spending Cuts

*Massively cut education, energy, and law enforcement.
* Massively cut Social Security and Medicare

So what's the problem? Sounds good to me.

The kids, think of the kids!

btw I give him props for at least addressing the alternative min tax.

Repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax is what you choose to compliment him on???
I guess you are too young to remember multi-millionaires who paid no tax for many years before the AMT.
I support the Democratic approach to raise the amount before it kicks in. I see no reason why millionaires and billionaires should pay no tax while I pay tax.