Is there a Clear Diffrence in OEM vers RETAIL

MaXimuScs

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Other than pricing and Bundle packaging

is there a clear diffrence in OEM vers Retail Graphic cards

I have a OEM ATI 9000 it says its not clockable - no new drivers ect.. I notice it laggs a bit with online games

I have the same ATI 9000 Retail and it does better with online games

I noticed there is a clear diffrence in Production model # NUMBERS on the chips and board

I use the same MOBO , RAM and CPU

I have even switched G cards and still the Retail preformed better and scored higher

I am building another system and every one says OEM is the way to go NO Diffrence in performance and you save money

Maybe my OEM is a bad card OR Is it just OEM are lower preformers ????

Help with some Cold hard facts Please
 

shock311

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I always though OEM was the same as if say Dell was using them in their machines....why would Dell want retail boxes. So there shouldn't be a difference.
 

MaXimuScs

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Good point I know some companies use OEM

And they are Quality systems

Still why diffrent color chips Brown - green ?? and why lable - use diffrent modle number ??

HMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

TEACHERS FILL ME IN !!!!!!!!!
 

godmare

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That's interesting your experiencing issues with OEM versus retail.
Do you have any quantitative measurements such as fps in a game or 3dmark scores, etc?
That may be useful since your two setups are the same. Same drivers and hard drives, too?
Same DMA settings, etc.?
 

Jeff7

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Some OEM parts are the same as retail counterparts - with CPU's, the retail package comes with a cooler, case sticker, manual, and 3 year warranty. OEM - it's the exact same CPU, but that's it - JUST the CPU, and the warranty is usually up to the seller (that's as far as I know on the warranty part).
With videocards, OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) may use different components than, say ATi maybe, might use in their cards. ATi may recommend certain core and memory speeds, but the OEM's may use slower components to save money. And if the card is going into a Dell, or something like that, the average buyer probably wouldn't have any idea what you meant if you told them that the core and memory only run at 250 and 275MHz (just random numbers there for the example), instead of the retail 275/300. Of course, all they'd understand if you told them that is "so this is slow?" and demand to speak to/attack your supervisor. :)
Finding exact specs for some OEM parts can be a bit tough for that reason - they may not advertise that their card is a bit slower than the competition. Of course, some OEMs like to exceed the specs; I think Albatron did that with their GF4 Ti4200 cards - they'd equip the Turbo cards with fast BGA RAM, which allowed them to reach Ti4600 speeds with ease.
 

rbV5

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There can be a big difference in ATI cards between retail and OEM especially with NP models. The "pro" model cards "should" be the same, and the AIW cards "are" the same.

You can overclock the card by flashing a modified bios. Check the forums at Rage3D.
 

MaXimuScs

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Yes they are excatly the same in every part except OEM CPU and OEM Video card
I used Retail in the other and found it to run faster

When I switch eather parts they run slower

but to put all Retail together Its sweet The spects I cant remember I just remember that it ran slower
when testing

I am building another system and was wondering if it realy was an OEM - Retail problem or just maybe its
old and getting slow

The OEM ATI is not upgradeable The Bios is not Flashable it even says it in the setup :frown:

The Retail is ATI 9000

Im looking at building a
XP2700 333
Biostar M7VIT PRO MOBO
3 gig 3200 DDR Gil
LEADTEK A280 LE THD My Vivo 128 8X AGP
3x 80G WD 7200 ATA 100 98se xp home linux 8.0 pro / Romtec Trios to seprate drives www.romtecusa.com
1x 200G WD 7200 ATA 100 as Slave
Aopen 56x CD
Yamaha 44x24x44 CRW-F1 one sweet burner Retail

The Oem is nice but it does not utilize the over burn protection forget about the 4-8M buffer

I will have it running by May 8th - 10th at the latest

I use 19" Hyundai P910 - Q910 monitors they are better than Samsung DF dyna Flat
and Cheeper

How ever the Q910 is Ugly and it is smaller in size Higher refresh and small dotpitch

http://compare.monitorsdirect.com/shopping_tools/cmpmonitor.jsp?sku1=513475&sku2=812840

http://compare.monitorsdirect.com

After this one I am looking to do a Duel P4 3.0 - 3.6 Decembers project

Thanks Guys for all your input Great help

MaX out