Is the xbox2 more powerful than a top of the line pc?

[dcdude]

who cares

pc games will always be more appealing to me for the most part

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Tick

For about a year. Graphics and eye candy, good. Gameplay, teh suxxors. For one thing, you can't play RTS's on a console. Secondly, no console FPS can touch CS:S.

Yeah true. But same can be said about PC games: PC racing games suck (except NFS series), there are no fighting games, sports games are boring (you need to play with friends in the same room or online to really enjoy them - a PC lacks here), and action adventure games on PC aren't as good. If you want a solid overall gaming experience, you have to own a PC for strategy and FPS games and a console(s) for other genres of games. No matter what anyone says, if you haven't played Zelda, Goldeneye, Gran Tourismo, Tekken series and billions of other "greats", you have been missing some amazing games where a PC will never deliver. The way I look at it, if you arent into FPS or strategy games, a gaming PC is just a waste of $$$. Consoles offer so much more variety for the common gamer.

Nascar racing 2003 is still the best racing sim made (for pc).



Tom

 

[Insomniak]

Both platforms have their advantages. Personally, I plan to own both a next generation console (probably Xbox 360, as the Xbox's software lineup was so much stronger than the PS2s this last time around - excepting God of War, Katamari Damacy, and a few other games) and a next generation PC.

I'm sure there will be games I will want to play on both.

 

[apoppin]

referencing:

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: apoppin

Just curious . . . why isn't there just a PC OS for gaming only?

Microsoft WinGameXP

i don't think gamers would mind rebooting their PC to play a game if the PC could devote 100% of its resources to the game (or some multi-core hybred so you can run 2 OSes simultaneously if you want to have apps running while you are gaming).

That actually wouldn't be such a bad idea...(not that I think it'll ever materialize though...)

It sure would be nice to have next to no overhead from the OS and other programs...

then . . .

Originally posted by: Diasper
Actually you wouldn't need a new OS at all. Think about it a different way you could just restart your pc into a different mode for games in a not that similiar way that you can restart into Safe Mode


That could rather easily be done in a Service Pack or even just with an extensive patch in Windows Update.

MS already has a game O/S . . . for the X-box . . .

think it could run on a PC alongside Windoze?

 

[Muscles]

To answer original poster: " Is the xbox2 more powerful than a top of the line pc?"

No. Any technology the next gen consoles have will be available for the PC by the time it's actually released, probably even before it's released. One example is the graphics card. I would be surprised if a higher end graphics card isn't available before the Xbox 360 even ships. No console will ever match the power of a high end PC because PC's can always be customized/upgraded and consoles cannot.

 

[Dukemaster]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Just curious . . . why isn't there just a PC OS for gaming only?

Microsoft WinGameXP

i don't think gamers would mind rebooting their PC to play a game if the PC could devote 100% of its resources to the game (or some multi-core hybred so you can run 2 OSes simultaneously if you want to have apps running while you are gaming).

It will never be near as effective as a console, because every person has different hardware in it's pc. The big strenght of a console lies in the abillity for programmers to perfect and optimize a game for the platform because every xbox is the same.

Originally posted by: Muscles
To answer original poster: " Is the xbox2 more powerful than a top of the line pc?"

No. Any technology the next gen consoles have will be available for the PC by the time it's actually released, probably even before it's released. One example is the graphics card. I would be surprised if a higher end graphics card isn't available before the Xbox 360 even ships. No console will ever match the power of a high end PC because PC's can always be customized/upgraded and consoles cannot.

Hahaha you really think Ati or Nvidia are going to come out with a graphics card for PC's with 48 pipelines in November?? And don't forget, even if you have a pc with the same specs as a xbox 360 it won't come near what that console can put on the screen. Because all xbox consoles are the same game's can be perfected for that hardware. Just look at the current xbox for example. It has a 700mhz processor and a graphics chip that is based on the Geforce 3 and the games still look pretty good to me, about what a mid-end pc could do. Just think about what kind of PC you must have to equel a xbox 360. And also don't forget when the first Xbox was launched there where already PC's out there with more powerfull hardware, and before there are PC's with more powerfull hardware then a Xbox 360 you're already talking about at least a year. Combined with the mutch higher efficiency of a console and it will be a long time(probably a year or 2 at the least) before PC's really catch up and games for it look better then on a Xbox 360.

 

[RussianSensation]

...Also a big advantage of PS3, Xbox 360 is that for $300 US you'll get a very fast system. To have a smooth gaming experience with much better image quality, you are looking at $1000+ PC. Sure a console needs a TV, but who doesnt have a TV in their house? PCs provide much better graphics no doubt about it, but are graphics all that's important to a gamer? Even if so, is having better graphics worth $700 or more over a console? Now that I think about it, you could have PS3 and Xbox 360 and $400 left over to rent 1 year's worth of games at $5 a piece. Now that's bang for the buck. And no one here said anything about how they'll feel paying $400-500 US for R520 alone, when xbox 360 as a whole system will be much less -- I would personally feel ripped off.

 

[musgrattios]

MS PROMISED that 360 would be more powerful than any PC at its launch, just in hardware, and it will have better looking games for a long time. I know everyone of you stopped reading when you saw PROMISED, because we were also PROMISED the Ultimate-Operating-System-Embodied-In-Windows-XP, but I don't think ATI will let them break this one. Besides XBOX is only worth it for HALo, HALO2, and hopefully HALO3.

 

[Dukemaster]

I don't agree. Forza Motorsport for example really is a great game aswell(especially online) but that depends on what kind of games you like to play. If Microsoft and Sony would introduce a good wireless keyboard and mouse for their consoles then first person shooters and strategie games would also be great to play on a console and if the online gameplay is good i won't need to buy a new pc for the next 2 years or so.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: w00t
i heard some stuff like there graphics card was gonna be better than any computer graphics card by 2 years, personally i think it bs i highly doubt they can top an x850xtpe.

check the video forum

it makes sense to make a console gpu better than the PC part at the time of launch. they have to last much longer

and to quote appopin "anyway, think about it . . . if you were M$ or Sony and you paid ATI or nVidia to build the best possible console GPU . . . you launched it and the next month they came out with a faster PC GPU .. . . based on research YOU paid for.

i know i''d sue

When the Xbox originally launched, the GPU was a GF3/4 hybred . . . faster than anything for PC . . . . after an appropriate time, nVidia launched their faster GPU (only to have it crushed by the 9700p).

IF anything, BOTH the r520 and G70 will be "crippled" compared to their console counterparts . . . . then watch for the "speed bump" and unlocking of pipes, etc.


Actually we know quite a lot about the r520 compared to the g70. "

they wont be thinking about doing it.....they have already done it with xbox. the gpu in there was better than the gf3......but not as good as the GF4 which got released a while later

 

[Pocatello]

I haven't seen a console game that's worth buying yet, ever since my SNES died 10-11 years ago. So even if it's more expensive for me to buy parts and build a gaming pc, a single videocard is more expensive than a gaming console, I will continue to do so.

 

[AJPatel]

simply: no. consoles will never be more powerful than PCs.

 

[firefaux]

initially, when they first come out, consoles are more powerful (or at least have better specs) than the top of the line pc at the time. however, as everyone else mentioned, pc's catch up within a year or so. think of it like this: pc's are like a distance runner; they go at a steady pace. while consoles are like sprinters; they run in fast, short spurts. so it may seem like consoles are ahead when they first start, then they slow down (because they arent upgradable) and pcs slowly catch up and pass them until the console gets its next spurt (ie next gen console). or it can be like the tortoise and the hare as well.

 

[jfall]

Does anyone know what games are due at launch? I hoping to see Halo 3 or Ninja Gaiden 2 in the near future

 

[Dukemaster]

One thing i heard was that the hard drive will have a modified version of Halo 2 pre-installed. I myself have never played Halo 2 so i don't mind.