Is the Visiontek 5632 GTS-V faster than Radeon DDR?

[momar]

I'm currently using a 32mb Radeon DDR card but came across the deal at Newegg for the Visiontek 5632 GTS-V card at a great price and was wondering if it would be worthwhile to upgrade. The ATI is a decent card but I would like to try the NVIDIA GTS-V to see the difference. Anyone have any opinions as to the speed of the GTS-V stock and oc'd relative to the Radeon DDR. The rest of my rig is:


TBird 1.4
Shuttle AK31 v3 266A
Crucial DDR2100 512meg

*Thanks for all the replies, some good info there. Maybe I'll save for a Radeon 7500.*

 

[LS20]

k7s5a
xp1700
256ddr
gts-v

175/286: 2800
210/330: 3400
210/360: 4400

i have 10more mHZ to go on the core... and, if i had used powerstrip, i could have pushed the core and memory even higher and *maybe* touch 5000
if

 

[Rand]

Their generally very close in terms of performance. The Radeon 32MB DDR is about 8-10% slower then a GF2 GTS, which is almost exactly the performance difference between the GTS-V and the GTS.
Personally I'd rather a Radeon 32MB DDR though as it's a more versatile card then the GTS-V, with a slightly better 3D feature set and a bit better 2D, along with ATi's acclaimed DVD playback.

The GTS-V is an excellent budget card, but I really can't see it being worth buying for someone that already has a card that's performance is so very close.

Of course the GTS-V can overclock decently, but then so can your existing card. And with most recent GTS-V's ony coming with 7ns DDR SDRAM, they only seem to typically hit about 300-315MHz mem clock coompared to some of the earlier GTS-V's with the much faster 5.5ns DDR RAM.
Even assuming it hits full GTS speeds, the performance boost you'd see is pretty small so it's hard to recommend the card to you.

 

[Coligeon]

I thought that the newer cards had the 5.5 instead of the 7? I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm also interested in getting this card. I've heard it is an exclusive card and won't be on the market too long. Would this be bad for new drivers/chip compatibility for games? One last thing, would I get a noticeable difference from switching from a voodo 3 3000 pci to this card on a Duron 700, 256 ddr ram system? Thank you.

 

[Killrose]

Radeon DDR to GTS-V? The GTS will be slightly faster, but don't waste your money. But you might get someone to trade you straight across. And from what I hear, the Visiontek cards are shipping with 5.5ns ram.

Coligeon, You would benefit by going to the GTS-V. Look at the old benches showing GTS series vs your current card. The 32bit option is nice.

 

[spanky]

the v3 was made to compete against the tnt2 cards weren't they? the gts should definitely spank the v3. but i'm bias torwards the v3

 

[LS20]

<< I've heard it is an exclusive card and won't be on the market too long. Would this be bad for new drivers/chip compatibility for games? >>


yeah... visiontek is the only maker of the gts-v. HOWEVER, all the GForces can run Nvidia's detonator drivers... so you can be sure of future updates and comaptibility.

also--as far as i know--the only difference beteween it (gts-v) and a regular gts is the difference in core and memory speed

 

[jfunk]

Yeah, great card for the money, but pointless if you're already on a Radeon.

Your Radeon probably has better image quality anyway and the great DVD as was mentioned.

Save your $50 and put it towards your next card.


j

 

[SlimHarpo]

A couple people mentioned ATI's "acclaimed" and "great" DVD playback. Could somebody explain what's supposed to be so great about it? I just replaced my Geforce 2 Pro with a Radeon 8500 from Best Buy. The Radeon has been a nice upgrade in terms of game-rendering power (with a couple exceptions, such as Serious Sam 2), but I can't say I see any difference in the DVD playback. The picture looks exactly the same (great in both cases), and cpu usage is pretty much the same (on my 1.3 GHz Thunderbird). As I understand it, the Radeon has both MC (motion compensation) and iDCT (inverse discrete cosine transformation), whereas the Geforce 2 only had MC. Given the way ATI's DVD playback is so often touted as a selling point, I expected to see some sort of difference, but have not seen any.

I am not disappointed with the card at all, as I think it was a great deal, but I'd like to hear somebody explain what's so "great" about the dvd playback as compared to a basic Geforce 2. I have tried ATI's dvd player, PowerDVD XP, and Media Player, always outputting to one of the two monitors I have hooked up. Like I said, the playback is excellent, but no "better" than my Geforce 2 was.

 

[Coligeon]

Does the 5632 offer full direct x 8.0 support? I went to the visiontek site and it didn't say (unless I overlooked). Thanks again.

 

[Killrose]

<< Does the 5632 offer full direct x 8.0 support? >>


No

 

[ss284]

Keep your radeon ddr. If you check recent benchmarks with recent drivers, the radeon pulls ahead in 32 bit color, and resolutions above 1024-768. Save the 50 bucks, and not worth the possible 10% increase that would be gained after overclocking.

-Steve

 

[Coligeon]

Is it a big deal about it not being 8.0 supported?

 

[LS20]

whats up with that directx deal? im rnning dx 8.1 on my gts-v?

 

[ss284]

No its not a big deal. It just means that it doesnt support certain dx 8.0 features like programmable TnL like the geforce 3 series and radeon 8500 have.


-Steve

 

[adlep]

About the DVD....
ATI cards have build in hardware decoder to play DVD movies which means less cpu (and system) overhaul when compared to the other
brands... It does not mean that the playback looks that much better than in the other cards, it just means that the system equipped with ATI needs less juce (system resources) to play a DVD movie...
hope it helps

 

[Pete]

ATi players may look better in terms of superior alpha blending (for subtitles) and scaling (full-screen), but I haven't been paying attention for a while (still running an Xpert128 ) and nV might have caught up in terms of image quality.

 

[Blurry]

save the money, pal

 

[rogue1979]

If you are gonna run 1024 x 768 x 32 the Radeon is slightly faster. If you drop to 16-bit then the GTS-V is faster. Save your money for a better upgrade, you won't notice any speed difference.

 

[novice]

Interesting thread and was the exact question I am asking myself. Which would be the best option in your opinion for my current system?
1. Stay with the A-Open Geforce 2 MX (save the $50)
2. Go for a Radeon DDR 32 mb card ($47 shipped from newegg)
3. Go for the Visiontek GTS-V 32 mb DDR ($53 shipped from newegg)
This is on a MSI-6309, Celeron 900@1.08 ghz used for gaming, surfing, light word processing.
Not sure if I want to spend over $100 for video card upgrade, and would certainly be very upset to spend $130 or so on a Radeon 7500 or 8500LE just to find out all the horror stories about ATI drivers are true. But if that were the case I would be less upset if I was only out the $47. Appreciate any input.
Chuck

 

[DarkKnight]

<< 1. Stay with the A-Open Geforce 2 MX (save the $50) >>



If you are happy with the performance, then stay with it, but I'm sure that the GTS-V will be much better because it uses DDR Ram. If you are not happy, I think you should get the 5632 card because it's a very good deal. I have never used the Radeon, so I cannot comment about that.

 

[novice]

After much deliberation, I went ahead and ordered the Geforce 2 GTS-V. Since I have been all Nvidia since 3Dfx went out of business, I guess it is less risky to stay the course. At least I have a pretty good idea of what I will be getting. Hopefully the prices will eventually drop enough on the Radeon 8500 to tempt me to try an ATI card. I believe the GTS is faster than the Radeon DDR and ultimately, that is what made up my mind, since I have not noticed any problems with 2D on the 3 different Geforce 2 cards I have now (MX, GTS, GTS Pro)
Chuck

 

[Kingofcomputer]

compgeek deal on GTS with tv-out (not GTS-V) is much better deal.

 

[novice]

<< compgeek deal on GTS with tv-out (not GTS-V) is much better deal. >>



Maybe so, but the last Geforce 2 GTS I ordered from Compgeeks gave me nothing but trouble. Wouldn't stay plugged into the AGP slot, periodically would pull out and give me no video at all. Got tired of having to reseat it every other day. Thought I would give newegg's GTS-V a shot. I am giving Compgeeks a chance to redeem themselves in my eyes by ordering a cheap motherboard and case (Biostar M6VCF and Genica ATX mid tower case with 250W PS) for a total of about $55 shipped. If they work, I will consider retracting some of the nasty things I thought (and said) about compgeeks after my disappointing experience with the alleged visiontek Geforce 2 GTS I got from them.
Chuck

 

[BFG10K]

Switching to a GTS-V from your Radeon 32 MB DDR is a waste of time and money.