Is the Tyan 1854 Trinity 400 any good?

[judgmentday1]

What's your opinion about this mobo compared to the Asus P3V4X, Soyo 6ba+iv or BX Master?

 

[rickn]

the Asus is better.

 

[judgmentday1]

Even just with 16 FSB options? Or is there any way to specify that you want to buy the one with 32 FSB and no with 16 FSB?

 

[jlm462]

I like my tyan...its solid as a rock and a good o/c'er with a slocket (there are no voltage adjustments on the board, all autodetect). AGP 4x is also very stable on this board. Tyan makes good quality products so you know you're not getting a piece of junk.

Just use softFSB for the extra fsb settings.

 

[birddog]

I have both the tyan board & the P3V4X. The tyan board is more stable, but the Asus is easier to overclock. My P3 550 will do 144mhz on the P3V4X, but will only go 133mhz on the Tyan. My old celeron 400 would do 450 in the Asus board, but wound ont O'clock at all on the tyan board.

My HP CD-RW is much happier in the Tyan Board than in the Asus one. I also think the Award Bios on the tyan board is easier to navigate thatn the one on the P3V4X. I have 3 friends who are using the tyan board (built two of the systems myself) without complaints. For someone who does not have too much experience with motherboards/CMOS changes, the Tyan board is rather straight-forward & they have a very good users manual (much better than Asus').

To overclock the tyan board more than 10-15%, you'll need a slotkit that allows voltage adjustmenst since you can't do it in the BIOS. Also, the Asus board offers more BUS speed options (especially between 66mhz & 100mhz) than the Tyan board to 'fine tune' your overclock.

Either board will do you well. If you want to squeeze every last mhz out of your CPU, go with the Asus. If you want a rock stable platform & are satisified with moderate overclockability, go with the Tyan board (Micron uses them in all their P3 computer systems, Micron would not have picked this board if it wasn't top quality).

 

[judgmentday1]

Thank you for your information. This is very helpful. Great!

 

[Marine]

I have a 500E in a Tyan 1854s/Trinity 400 running at 750 (5x150) for three months with default cooling without a hardware crash . Using the Iwill Slotket II in the Slot 1 as the FC-PGA install does not allow much tweaking. The board can be a bit finicky with PCI-IRQ agreement, so you may have to shuffle your PCI cards around some, but there are lots of slots to choose from. I use Mushkin's best PC133 RAM and am aware of the memory issue reported in benchmarks but in real world applications I cannot perceive any difference from a similarly configured BX board. There are a few drivers on the VIA site that are necessary for peak performance but are easy to find and run. I would use this board again and recommend it without reservation. Very nice to work with and extensive and intuitive BIOS settings.

 

[kaz]

I have a Rev.D of the motherboard and I am quiet satisfied with it. Running at CuMine 650 @ 910, 1.85v using a MSI slocket. Runs rock stable. Another suggestion is to look into the new IWill VD133 Pro/Lite

 

[buyitfromme]

I have had this bord for past 6 months. I am very happy with it.

 

[DieselMan]

I had this board since february, and I've used it on a 500e@667 (even higher, but I couldn't reach 150 * 5 on this board), and a celery II 566@850 (will boot up at 952Mhz!). At 100-133 Mhz FSB, this board it's absolutely the MOST STABLE board I have (I also use an aopen ax6bc with a piii 600E@800); you must use the slot 1 processor input if you plan to overclock (first because you can adjust voltage from a slocket, second because you cannot "fake" the processor on the socket 370 input, and if you overclock, the pci and agp ratios will be off. I HIGHLY recommand this board if you are planning to overclock it moderately, simply because it is rock stable!

 

[B-Dude]

I have also been running this board with a 500e at 750 for a few months stable in Win98se. The only problem I have had is if I try to run it at 750/150fsb in Win2k it blue screens. If I back it down to 667/133 it's happy again. Anyone else having this occur?

 

[blackhawk]

I got this board in february and have to agree with most everything said in the above. I ran a celeron in the socket at 75mz only for a while. Not enough room for my big fans though so be careful about cooling. Ran a celeron2 in the socket but of course it can't run at 100mz there so moved it to an ax6bc where its at 112mz. Tried the c2 on an asus slot kit but it wouldn't autodetect from the jumpers( be aware of the different slot kits suitability on this board) and tried a slot 1 p550e but the only way to bypass autodetect of the fsb is through pin taping.
One other thing, I had problems enabling agp4x on a viper 770 and this has been an issue with some vid cards so check the site for compatibility.

It's a very stable board, no hw monitoring etc though and has an excellent printed manual. The clear cmos jumper is awkward to access also. Not a great choice to oc or tweak but an excellent value for a stable dependable board. I did take mine out and replaced it with an ax63pro so I could oc the p55oe.

 

[AMB]

I like it except the incompatibality with Nvidia 5.xx drivers

 

[AMB]

I like it except the incompatibality with Nvidia 5.xx drivers

 

[Leo]

Dieselman: You actually can fake the bus speed on a fc-pga It's just a bit more difficult. People have actually broke the pins off to make it permanent, otherwise you'll need to use fingernail polish.


Back on topic... I've had my s1854 for 3 or so months now and I'm mostly happy. Can't complain too much with a fcpga in a slotket p3-700 running at 933 mhz (default voltage and pc133 running at cl2). I have a revision E with the newest 1.07 bios and it's a dog of an overclocker. My celeron 366 that has been running for 3 years now in an lx mobo at 83 mhz won't even run at 75 mhz in windows without crashing and 83 doesn't even post on the Tyan Trinity 400. Same deal with my p3-700. It won't go out of spec at all (138 mhz or 112 mhz). I even upped the voltage to max on the celeron to try to get it to run stable and no go. When it's run in spec, it's great.

I'm using the recently released 4 in 1 drivers in win 98 se and also running win2k.

Here's some sisoft benchmarks for you:

CPU/Memory Bandwidth: 357 mb/sec
FPU/Memory Bandwidth: 441 mb/sec

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[speg]

Im getting revision E Wednesday, hopefully. It looks to be a pretty good board but make sure you don't get an earlier revision.

 

[blackhawk]

There's an interesting british site that's unofficial and I found it quite informative regarding tweaking, oclocking, bios revisions etc.

http://www.homeweb.org.net/s1854/

 

[Leo]

Linkified

http://www.homeweb.org.uk/s1854/

Good site for the most part... his language could be a bit more precise when it comes to explaining the part about setting the fsb in the bios (basically not too helpful since it doesn't set the multipliers). Also he had an old revision of the board so the pictures/settings are a bit off. Good overall though. It was difficult trying to find decent reviews of this board (Revision E or higher - previous models had problems that dont apply anymore, so many of the reviews weren't helpful at all.)

AMB: What incompatibility? I've been using detonator drivers from 5.2x to the most recent ones without any problems... Quake 2 and Quake 3 is quite fast.