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Is the Pioneer DVD all that it's cracked up to be?

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Shooters

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I'm going to get either a 16x Pioneer or a 16x Toshiba DVD-ROM. I don't really care about DAE or data read speed because I've alread got a CD-ROM that's pretty fast. All I care about is DVD performance. People are always talking about how the 16x Pioneer is the best DVD out there, but I've also heard that it's pretty noisy. Any comments on this? Plus what's the difference between the Pionner DVD-115 and the DVD-116?

Thanks,
Shooters

Edit: Just went to cdspeed2000.com and they said that the Pioneer DVD-116 is supposed to be quieter than the DVD-115. Can anyone verify this?
 
Thanks for the input. One other thing.....I've read that some DVD-ROMs can be flashed so that they are region free. Can this be done with both the Pioneer and the Toshiba? Region free means that my DVD-ROM will be able to read DVDs from anywhere right? Is this really that useful? I don't see a whole lot of benefit to this since most DVDs come out first in the US anyways. Is there something I'm missing?
 
My Pioneer was flashed region free. Its a waste of time in my situation since I only watch US DVD's. New DVD's coming out won't play on it because of new protection on the DVD itself that detects a modified player. Hollowman and The Patriot are two that come to mind. I could just flash it again but I have not got around to it yet.
 
The region free means that if your friend went on a trip to asia and brought back a load of pirated DVD movies, you'll be able to watch them.

personally I'm using a first generation DVD-rom from Toshiba, the SD-M1002. it's 1x 😱 and it doesn't read CD-Rs, but it plays the movies and it's pretty quiet.😀 I am still wondering why ppl need 16X DVD since I've never seen any software on DVDs yet.
 
Okay, just did a search and got some good info. Here are the conclusions I've come to:

1.) The Toshiba performs just as well as the Pioneer
2.) Toshiba drives are quiter than Pioneers
3.) The Toshibas are better at reading sub channel data.

Knowing all this, is there a compelling reason that I don't know about as to why I should get the Pioneer?

One more thing.....what is sub channel data and how would I benefit from a drive that reads sub channel data better.
 
Why do you care about DVd performance? Do you plan on ripping DVD's (for back-up that is)? Because the Toshiba 12X reads DVD's movies just as well as the Pioneer and Toshiba 12X, but is slightly quieter than the 16X, and ways quieter than the Pioneer 16X.
 
Most people have purchased the slot-loading Pioneer, which I have. I think this really skews the noise comparrison because slot-loading is bound to be louder than tray loading. My friend has the tray-loading, and it isn't any noisier than your average cd-rom drive at 40x. The tray-loading 116 (and slot loading-106S) Pioneer drive also has something the toshiba doesn't: ata/66 support. Note that the slot-loading is also only really noisy when you pop a cd-rom in; when playing dvd's the noise isn't even noticeable.
 
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