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Is the P8P67 PRO really a lemon?

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bgstcola

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When Sandy Bridge was first released it seemed like the P8P67 PRO was the most popular choice. Now I see a lot of threads about issues with that mobo.

My situation is that I want to build a computer like this one:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/nav/serenity/SPCR/customize.php

It would be easy for me to chose the P8P67 PRO, because then I would know the heatsink would fit and the memory would be compatible and so on.

The alternative seems to be the Asrock Extreme4 or some Gigabyte board. The Asrock seems to get good feedback but I'm not sure if it just attracts positive attention because Asrock used to make crap and now have made something that seems to be decent. The gigabytes just seems too expensive for what you get.

Finally I would like to get the Intel LAN since I have seen a lot of complaining about the Realtek solution. I'm not sure if that's stupid?

When something gets very popular it always creates a lot of criticism as well. Do you think that's the case with the P8P67 PRO or is it POS.
 
Realtek is fine, but you're going to use a GT 430 with a P8P67 Pro or similar board? I'd have to say that's pretty stupid. Just get the non-pro.
 
My friend has the Asus P8P67 Pro and so far there is no major problems with it at all. In fact he is using the original version with the Cougar Point chipset bug because he is too lazy to change it to the B3 stepping.

If you're referring as to why it may have a problem because the sample of which the problem is coming from is huge. That is why you wouldn't hear 'problems' from a Mac user because they are small in quantity compared to Windows, hence less 'problems'. Popular choice the Pro may be but it is still your money and if you decide that the Pro is not worth your money, get something else.
 
I'm just looking for the "safest" choice. I just can't figure out if the number of problems reported is due to the sample size or because the board is a lemon. If it is due to the sample size then it is actually a good thing, because it makes it easier to troubleshoot. I don't care about the cost difference.

For graphics I'm gonna go with a HD5750 because that seems like the fastest passive card around. Noise is critical for me and I don't game that much anymore (unfortunately).
 
My wife's P8P67 Pro is fine so far, except for an odd issue. When coming out of S3 sleep it sometimes dies, as in fans spin up but nothing happens (no picture, no HDD activity). I think this has happened 2-3 times in the past two weeks. Note that I did NOT reinstall Windows when moving from the previous P8P67 to the new P8P67 Pro B3, so that may have something to do with it. Also, once the computer is power cycled, Windows says "resuming Windows" as if it planned this all along. Very strange.

I'll see how mine does whenever I get around to building it.
 
Zap, my first board did something similar but I think it was more display than anything. If I pressed a key on the keyboard the display would turn on and everything was fine. Did that every once in a while. My B3 board would not stay asleep or stay hibernating. Would wake up after two minutes and stay awake. Had to reinstall Windows to fix it. When I changed boards I didn't reinstall. No problems at all now. New Board even runs about 4 degrees cooler.
 
Zap said:
My wife's P8P67 Pro is fine so far, except for an odd issue. When coming out of S3 sleep it sometimes dies, as in fans spin up but nothing happens (no picture, no HDD activity). I think this has happened 2-3 times in the past two weeks. Note that I did NOT reinstall Windows when moving from the previous P8P67 to the new P8P67 Pro B3, so that may have something to do with it. Also, once the computer is power cycled, Windows says "resuming Windows" as if it planned this all along. Very strange.

I'll see how mine does whenever I get around to building it.
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The reason that it comes up and says "resuming windows", is because of the default under Win7, "Hybrid Sleep". It copies the RAM to the hibernation file, and then goes into sleep mode. If it resumes correctly, it should just wake up. But if something happens, and it loses power, it will resume as if from hibernate.

You don't have a Sandforce SF1200 SSD in that rig, by any chance, do you? They have problems with sleep/wake, so I hear.
 
bgstcola said:
I'm just looking for the "safest" choice. I just can't figure out if the number of problems reported is due to the sample size or because the board is a lemon. If it is due to the sample size then it is actually a good thing, because it makes it easier to troubleshoot. I don't care about the cost difference.

For graphics I'm gonna go with a HD5750 because that seems like the fastest passive card around. Noise is critical for me and I don't game that much anymore (unfortunately).
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There isn't really a safest choice. Even the cheapest board from Biostar could be problem free and last years and the most expensive board from ASUS could die in a week. If you want ASUS, get ASUS. It's that simple. Every board has issues, the P8P67 boards are popular so the issues will be made more evident. Plus I think a lot of noobs buy ASUS cause they somehow got it into their head that they're "the best" so you'll get more false claims of issues with their boards. Truth is ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI are all generally solid choices currently. Even Biostar isn't that bad.

And still for the 5750 the Pro is overkill. Pro is really only for people who are going to run dual GPU's. Even the non-Pro sounds overkill for you, unless you'll overclock the CPU then it's fine.
 
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bgstcola said:
I'm just looking for the "safest" choice. I just can't figure out if the number of problems reported is due to the sample size or because the board is a lemon. If it is due to the sample size then it is actually a good thing, because it makes it easier to troubleshoot. I don't care about the cost difference.

For graphics I'm gonna go with a HD5750 because that seems like the fastest passive card around. Noise is critical for me and I don't game that much anymore (unfortunately).
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So why get the pro version??
 
No problems with the P8P67 Pro here. My B3 works like a dream, including resuming from sleep, etc. Also, this is the first Intel chipset I've had where my 2x 1TB RAID 1 array hasn't broken in the first month!
 
I bought two of the PROs when they came out and one was DOA that I sent back for a refund and replaced it with an MSI board. I've had no problems with it and my other system with the PRO has been running ok. I don't like having to RMA things fresh from the box like that and won't be purchasing and ASUS boards for a while.
 
+1 to the P8P67 Pro being a good board to me so far.

I went from a non-B3 Gigabyte P67 UD3 (which actually worked pretty well...until the SATA II ports stopped working >< ) to a B3 P67 UD3 (which gave me all sorts of instability problems, plus resulted in higher required voltages for overclocks!)

to my ASUS P8P67 Pro now. I love it so much. Everything's stable, and even the dual boot thing isn't *THAT* bad. If I don't want to fix it, adds maybe 4 seconds to my boot time. Meh.
 
I've heard of some cold boot issues and a possible BIOS issue here and there. Nothing too serious. Seems like a very good board to me. I have noticed that SB has issues across all makes and models, however. I think it has more to do with an immature chipset than anything else. I'm hoping Ivy Bridge will resolve all these issues.
 
VirtualLarry said:
The reason that it comes up and says "resuming windows", is because of the default under Win7, "Hybrid Sleep".
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You don't have a Sandforce SF1200 SSD in that rig, by any chance, do you? They have problems with sleep/wake, so I hear.
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I figured out the Hybrid Sleep stuff two days ago, but it still didn't fix the issue. Turns out that the original board (P8P67) came out of sleep just fine. The P8P67 Pro will not at all. Fans spin up like normal, but then nothing.

SSD is the same, Intel 80GB G2. I even updated firmware on it.

I may use a spare SSD to see if reinstalling Windows will fix it, since I swapped boards without a reinstall.

StinkyPinky said:
So why get the pro version??
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Intel NIC and SLI support.

jiffylube1024 said:
Also, this is the first Intel chipset I've had where my 2x 1TB RAID 1 array hasn't broken in the first month!
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That's usually from using non-RAID edition drives, which tend to fall out of the array thus degrading it and causing a rebuild.
 
ensign_lee said:
+1 to the P8P67 Pro being a good board to me so far...to my ASUS P8P67 Pro now. I love it so much. Everything's stable, and even the dual boot thing isn't *THAT* bad. If I don't want to fix it, adds maybe 4 seconds to my boot time. Meh.
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2 known issues with Asus and P67:
1) Dual boot is fixed by enabling "wakeup from pci-e" in bios.
2) S3 resume from sleep is fixed by disabling "PLL Overvoltage" in bios.
 
My B2 board was a P8P67 Pro, and my issues were the dual boot problem and randomly dropping drives, however, clearing CMOS and upgrading to the most recent BIOS fixed problems. I now have a B3 P8P67 Deluxe and mainly suffer from the dual boot problem and the resume from sleep problem. None of the recommended fixes so far have worked.
 
LagunaX said:
2 known issues with Asus and P67:
1) Dual boot is fixed by enabling "wakeup from pci-e" in bios.
2) S3 resume from sleep is fixed by disabling "PLL Overvoltage" in bios.
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1) I don't see such a setting in BIOS, but maybe something like "resume from PCIe." However, my wife's rig doesn't seem to have a dual boot problem.

2) OMFG it worked! It fixed the problem! S3 sleep now seems to work fine. Thanks! :thumbsup:
 
With the double boot, do this:

enter UEFI BIOS -> go to &#8216;Advanced&#8217; tab -> go down to &#8216;APM&#8217;, press Enter -> enable the &#8220;Power on by PCIe.&#8221; function. Then press F10 to save & exit
 
I dont have any issues coming out of sleep with my Corsair force 120 and ASRock P67 Pro3!.....not on original firmware, but apparently, if you disable fast post, this gives the SF1200 time to awaken!...LMAO!
 
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