Is the NSA really spying on Tucker Carlson?

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ElFenix

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Mercifully, there is no need to speculate. “I had dinner with Tucker last night in Budapest,” Dreher wrote in an American Conservative post published Wednesday. “We talked about why American conservatives should be interested in Hungary. We agreed that it is an example of a country where—unlike our own—conservatives have successfully fought against wokeness and other aspects of the liberal globalist agenda.” In a separate interview published in the Hungarian Conservative, Dreher—who claimed academics were freer in Orbán’s Hungary than Biden’s America—said, “If Donald Trump had had even half the intelligence and the focus of Viktor Orbán, America would be a very different place.” Maybe in the future, Dreher pontificated, “we will be able to put forward … a presidential candidate who is more like Orbán than Trump.

i spoke to a guy from the other side of the globe about how to defeat globalism!
 

Puffnstuff

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Someone should whisper to Tucker that the real spies are the toilet bowl aliens that have set up shop at his house. :p
 

UNCjigga

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Did these guys somehow miss the fact that the “liberal world order” was established by…America? Or is being anti-American just the new core of conservatism??
 

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Technically they could. They'd ask the CIA to conduct it and they'd outsource it to another Five Eyes member who can legally spy on a US citizen or a private intelligence company who has federal authority or did unless the laws have changed. I may be wrong here.

This is why I found the Denmark spying scandal hilarious. They all scratch each other's backs and act surprised and angry in public. Pfft. Though I sincerely doubt the NSA cares about Tucker's weird porn habits.
 

ch33zw1z

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Tucker has been espousing lies for so long, you really can't be expected to take him seriously. This is also court confirmed.
 

shortylickens

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Tucker has been espousing lies for so long, you really can't be expected to take him seriously. This is also court confirmed.
yeah the other news networks need to run that story once a day until the guy quits or his network fires him. I know it was their idea to hire propagandists but as soon as their reputations are ruined, they should be pushed to the side.
 
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Tucker has been doing his show from Hungary because he admires Orban and is holding his country up as a model example of what the US should become: far poorer, less powerful/influential, smaller, more socially restrictive, possessive of a press that is the mouthpiece of the government, and of course whiter.

The argument is that the US could basically give up all it's advantages in service of building an ethno-nationalist authoritarian nation to make people like him feel better. He's not even flirting with white nationalism anymore so much as giving it full tongue on air.


Are you a traditional American? Perhaps a classic American? I’ve also seen the term “national cohesion” bandied about recently from people who are enamored by this Orban.
 
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I want to be clear I have no evidence this is simply a theory.
Tucker will be caught with kiddie porn or some kind of underage date with one of what’s-his-names harem.

One thing I’ve learned over the last few years. Anyone Q claims is pure ends up diddling young women.
 
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Are you a traditional American? Perhaps a classic American? I’ve also seen the term “national cohesion” bandied about recently from people who are enamored by this Orban.

Says Gingrich:

“The anti-American left would love to drown traditional, classic Americans with as many people as they can who know nothing of American history, nothing of American tradition, nothing of the rule of law,” Gingrich said. “When you go and look at the radical left, this is their ideal model. It’s to get rid of the rest of us because we believe in George Washington or we believe in the Constitution. You see this behavior over and over again.”

Gee, wasn't that the case with all earlier waves of immigration, including in the early 20th century when we had unprecedented immigration from Europe? All of them "knew nothing of American history, nothing of American traditions" when they first got here. We seemed to have survived that wave of immigration quite well. What does he suppose is different about immigration now?
 
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"“The anti-American left would love to drown traditional, classic Americans with as many people as they can who know nothing of American history, nothing of American tradition, nothing of the rule of law,” Gingrich said. "



So, tell us about your Wigwam there Newt.

 
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After Hungary, Fucker's next stop: Mordor.


I liked a lot about what was going on in Hungary, but it absolutely pales in contrast to Mordor. Everyone has been so welcoming. The Witch-king of Angmar and I are going to brunch Monday, and then we’re going to appear on a panel together. This is my new spiritual home, and the more I learn about it, the more I find myself unable to bear the noisome sunlight of the United States. Where are our hosts of orcs, all roaring with vitriol for those beyond their borders? Where is our enormous fortress of dark magic surveilling all the subjects of the land? I want to live in a place that seethes with hatred of outsiders at all times and is willing to trade almost any amount of freedom in exchange for that privilege. Also, I love the rivers of molten rock. Very scenic!

Everything here that I have seen (through the thick darkness shrouding everything, broken only by the intermittent fire spewing from Mount Doom), I have liked. I pine for the freedom they have, the freedom to have all decisions made correctly by Sauron. The freedom to have one’s every act forged in the fierce heat of hatred and despair. I feel like I fit right in — and if people listen to me, we can have this in America, too.

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Are you a traditional American? Perhaps a classic American? I’ve also seen the term “national cohesion” bandied about recently from people who are enamored by this Orban.
Those jerks who believe in an American history that never existed.
 

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Those jerks who believe in an American history that never existed.

Viktor Orban is everything American authoritarians wish Trump was.

Rod Dreher: - “If Donald Trump had had even half the intelligence and the focus of Viktor Orbán, America would be a very different place. Maybe in the future, we will be able to put forward … a presidential candidate who is more like Orbán than Trump.”
 

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I hope Carlson can encourage some of his flock to immigrate to the Hungarian wonderland.

Are you a traditional American? Perhaps a classic American? I’ve also seen the term “national cohesion” bandied about recently from people who are enamored by this Orban.
It's a bit shades of "Jews Immigrants will not replace us!", I think...
 

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I mean that's fair. Classic American's seem content enough killing themselves over the Covid culture war. Gotta replace a couple hundred thousand dead GOP's with something.
 
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And speak of the devil... just as I type that I get a WaPo ding on my phone. Census data is coming in.

White population fell from 223 million in 2010 to 204 million in 2020. And for the first time ever, white population dipped below 60% to 57.8%.

Opioids and low birth rates were key things mentioned. Boomers are kicking the bucket at a pretty serious rate and Covid is just going to accelerate that. Add in crushing debt on our child rearing aged whites and just generally not wanting to raise kids in this bullshit (I don't blame them) and this is going to escalate.

But it's not them scary brown people that did this. It's our own choices, misery, and self harming voting causing it. It's just easier to sell fear than truth.
 

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And speak of the devil... just as I type that I get a WaPo ding on my phone. Census data is coming in.

White population fell from 223 million in 2010 to 204 million in 2020. And for the first time ever, white population dipped below 60% to 57.8%.

Opioids and low birth rates were key things mentioned. Boomers are kicking the bucket at a pretty serious rate and Covid is just going to accelerate that. Add in crushing debt on our child rearing aged whites and just generally not wanting to raise kids in this bullshit (I don't blame them) and this is going to escalate.

But it's not them scary brown people that did this. It's our own choices, misery, and self harming voting causing it. It's just easier to sell fear than truth.
Doing anything about it might affect profit margins/wealth harvesting though... what a dilemma!
Hm, my money is on "continue to spread alarmism while also wealth harvesting, and pushing for fascism so we can fix things the reich way".
 

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LOL at Fucker straight out admitting to being a liar.

Referring to CNN's Brian Stelter:

“He’s just such a pompous little guy. … I mean, he’s one of the falsest people I’ve ever seen on television. … He’s just so, like, self-righteous … but also lying at the same time. Like, I lie ’cause everyone does. But one thing I would never do, have never done in my whole life, is lie self-righteously,” said Carlson in a chat with Jamie Weinstein.

But then, he reverses himself in the same conversation and says "I don't lie."