Is the news media biased, or just stupid on firearms?

[Lonbjerg]

Who said I was mad lols. You do realize that criminals will still use these guns while the law abiding citizens will fall prey to them right? You treat the person you treat the problem. You eliminate people's rights to own such weapons you are just posing another problem; giving the Government to much power. I am not going to digress into a history lesson about how rulers etc. have found ways or excuses of disarming the populace as a way to control the people and commit atrocious acts.

You are starting to sound like a troll. perhaps i missed somewhere in the thread of you viewpoint but you haven't responded to me in any meaningful manner.

So according to that "logic"...more people should be assualted/robbed with guns in Denmark than the US right?
Because only the criminals have weapons...and people can't defend themselfes...that is your claim right?

 

[Lonbjerg]

I'm far from mad, however you seem to be "mad" in the mental form of the word...you're detached from reality in such a way as to be mentally unstable, I'm seriously glad you don't have the right to own a weapon as we do here in our free country, you're one I would want them kept away from...you illustrate the exact type of unbalanced person that should not have them...

Don't quit your day job, Mr. internet-psycologist...

 

[Lithium381]

Do you mean to say they personally gunned down people?
If not, you analogy is very flawed...but amusing.

It wasn't an analogy.
The fact that the government disarmed the people made it MUCH easier to control them and murder them with little to no resistance. The point being do NOT disarm the citizenry as it is necessary for a free state!

 

[mect]

Prove it...as several videos posted in this very thread here shows the OPPOSITE.

You have nothing but angry, empty words...perhaps why you are so mad? 🙂

You posted total BS video, got called on it, and then posted another video that proves essentially nothing which you clearly didn't even watch or else you were just banking that no one has the patience to watch. You've been mocking everyone for believing in the "hollywood physics", but then go and post a reenactment video (where they aren't using real rounds), try to claim there is live footage in the video, (I didn't see any), and then post the live helicopter feed where the first gunman is put down in the first 30 seconds, the second appears to start out injured, and you have no idea when either are getting hit because you don't have audio or good enough video (its all overhead) to actually see when they take a shot. I'm not saying it wasn't the case, as there are certainly designs for body armor which would make it so you didn't feel anything, although these would be extremely cumbersome. I'm just saying you haven't posted any video to prove it yet. Also, please notice that in this event the robbers were using illegal weapons. So much for the effectiveness of gun control. Other video posted clearly demonstrates that even with a bullet proof vest, the wearer is significantly influenced when they are shot. You were at least somewhat correct on the physics argument, (although as I said earlier, the pressure is much more important than the force, and the energy isn't very important at all, unless someone is trying to argue that a bullet would physically push a person over). I'd take your victory and call it a day.

 

[mect]

So according to that "logic"...more people should be assualted/robbed with guns in Denmark than the US right?
Because only the criminals have weapons...and people can't defend themselfes...that is your claim right?

Nope, the claim is that gun control has very little influence, and that other factors are what lead to lower violent crime rates in Denmark. How many people don't know that you cannot draw a correlation from two data points.

 

[Darwin333]

Prove it...as several videos posted in this very thread here shows the OPPOSITE.

You have nothing but angry, empty words...perhaps why you are so mad? 🙂

I already have and your supreme knowledge of physics should tell you that the energy simply doesn't disappear when it hits the vest. The only question is, depending on the type of vest, how much is the energy spread out before transferred to the wearer. Your argument basically boils down to the kinetic energy being transferred from the bullet to the vest and then basically disappearing. Could you please enlighten me to the physics behind what you are implying as it concerns to the above?

I have noticed that you stopped responding to my posts and instead choose to respond to those with the least information and/or pure insults. It appears that you do not wish to have an actual debate on the issue when you are presented with an intelligent reply, which there are man in this thread that you have conveniently skipped over.

And I will repost this link for you:

http://www.arcticpatriot.com/2012/02/aftermath-of-body-armor-save.html

 

[davmat787]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/07/aurora_shooting_how_did_people_commit_mass_murder_before_automatic_weapons_.html

I like how the author makes a glaring error in the very first line of the article. The media really is horrible when it comes to anything firearm related.

Automatic weapons, really? 🙄

The shooting spree that killed 12 people in an Aurora, Colo., movie theater on Friday has sparked a public debate about the availability of automatic weapons. Gun control advocates argue that mass murder is exceedingly difficult without them. One source told the Washington Post, “It’s kind of hard to be a pseudo-commando with a musket in the 18th century.” How did people commit mass murder before the advent of automatic weapons?

 

[xj0hnx]

I have noticed that you stopped responding to my posts and instead choose to respond to those with the least information and/or pure insults.

Well yea, he's nothing more than a troll, everything that wrecks his ignorant opinion is discarded.

I like how the author makes a glaring error in the very first line of the article. The media really is horrible when it comes to anything firearm related.

Automatic weapons, really? 🙄

Semi-automatic weapons just doesn't have that sensational, gotta do something about it right now or all the children and kittens in the world will die feel to it.

 

[HypX]

I wonder if the US could ever become like Japan on this issue:

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

 

[Pia]

Semi-automatic weapons just doesn't have that sensational, gotta do something about it right now or all the children and kittens in the world will die feel to it.

Nah, semi-automatics are also scary. I'm praying that at least some kittens will survive these WMDs and the maniacs who wield them. I mean, look at this video from 1:27 forwards (warning! upsetting material) - only a truly callous person would take that kind of joy and pride from being skilled with a murder tool.
http://youtu.be/za6sOzUis-I

 

[Lonbjerg]

I wonder if the US could ever become like Japan on this issue:

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

This is funny:

Waikiki's Japanese-filled ranges are the sort of quirk you might find in any major tourist town, but they're also an intersection of two societies with wildly different approaches to guns and their role in society. Friday's horrific shooting at an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater has been a reminder that America's gun control laws are the loosest in the developed world and its rate of gun-related homicide is the highest. Of the world's 23 "rich" countries, the U.S. gun-related murder rate is almost 20 times that of the other 22. With almost one privately owned firearm per person, America's ownership rate is the highest in the world; tribal-conflict-torn Yemen is ranked second, with a rate about half of America's.

I guess it's just the price of "freedom"...*chough*

 

[Lonbjerg]

And this tidbit is even mroe fun:

Though it's worth considering another police state here: Tunisia, which had the lowest firearm ownership rate in the world (one gun per thousand citizens, compared to America's 890) when its people toppled a brutal, 24-year dictatorship and sparked the Arab Spring.

So a virtually unarmed people toppled an dictator...what was it teh arguemnt for possisesing guns were again?! 😎

 

[Darwin333]

And this tidbit is even mroe fun:



So a virtually unarmed people toppled an dictator...what was it teh arguemnt for possisesing guns were again?! 😎

I see you have absolutely no retort to my other posts so I won't even bother giving you an intelligent response to this one.

Thanks for playing though.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I see you have absolutely no retort to my other posts so I won't even bother giving you an intelligent response to this one.

Thanks for playing though.

What post...the one were people magically flies when hit but bullets?

 

[nobodyknows]

Neither. Y'all got a big problem and clearly most of y'all know it. Merely pointing it out has nothing to do with Liberal Bias or Stupidity(although Reporters are often ignorant on what they're reporting on).

ignorance ia no excuse.

For the most psrt, people who weren't raised around guns are scared of them.

 

[Lonbjerg]

ignorance ia no excuse.

For the most psrt, people who weren't raised around guns are scared of them.

Perhaps because the stats shows that you are 20 times more likely to be shot in the US than other western contries...but facts are irrelevant..right?

 

[nobodyknows]

And this tidbit is even mroe fun:



So a virtually unarmed people toppled an dictator...what was it teh arguemnt for possisesing guns were again?! 😎

There are many, but self defense is the main reason.

 

[nobodyknows]

Perhaps because the stats shows that you are 20 times more likely to be shot in the US than other western contries...but facts are irrelevant..right?

Don't be ab asshole, treat others as you would like to be treated, mind your own business and you'll be fine.

Why does someone from Denmark give a hoot how we run the USA anyway? Is it any of your business or can't you resist the urge to get on your moral high horse and try to act superior? 😎

 

[Lonbjerg]

There are many, but self defense is the main reason.

But is dons't fit with reality.
The gun law in the US dosn't make you more safe.
Just the opposite...the relaxed laws means that you are 20 times more likely to get shot.

And according to all the pro-gunners...the Tunesian revolt shouldn't have happend..as they had 1/1000th of the guns compared to the US per captia..and still...they toppled a dictator..2 real world sets of data...that gives your stance the finger and put a label on: "False, wishfull thinking out of touch with reality".

So not only dosn't people fly when hit by bullets, gun dosn't make a society safer...nor does the lack of guns mean a dictator will reamin at power...facts over ignorant "arguments"...thx.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Don't be ab asshole, treat others as you would like to be treated, mind your own business and you'll be fine.

Why does someone from Denmark give a hoot how we run the USA anyway? Is it any of your business or can't you resist the urge to get on your moral high horse and try to act superior? 😎

Do you deny the data?

 

[nobodyknows]

LOL it isn't about data dumb ass. It's about our right to keep and bear arms and since you're not a citizen it's really none of your business. But stay on your soapbox and keep on preaching to the choir if it makes you feel "superior".

 

[piasabird]

News outlets thrive on controversy because it increases the number of viewers. Media outlets are attempting to instill fear and anger into the people that watch their broadcasts. This is why they try to also use fear and anxiety when they broadcast the weather.

Run for your lives a storm is coming!

You will look at our radar!

You will look at our radar!

You will look at our radar!

It is like subliminal programming.

 

[Lonbjerg]

LOL it isn't about data dumb ass. It's about our right to keep and bear arms and since you're not a citizen it's really none of your business. But stay on your soapbox and keep on preaching to the choir if it makes you feel "superior".

It is about the data...because it shows that your affection for guns...costs lives.
It's okay you don't mind people die needlessly on a lie...just don' pretend it's a good thing.

 

[nobodyknows]

It is about the data...because it shows that your affection for guns...costs lives.
It's okay you don't mind people die needlessly on a lie...just don' pretend it's a good thing.

Affection for guns? LOL@U, clearly you are the emotional one here.

No, whether you like it or not it's about my right to own a gun to defend myself and my property.

 

[piasabird]

Cops have guns also.

Take all the guns from the Police first.