Is The Left Unstoppable?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Is The Left Unstoppable?

  • Yes. But, we have to keep trying!!

  • No. Most of the accusations are crap and baseless.

  • I am a raging moron.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Oct 30, 2004
11,442
32
91
when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves-money-that-will-herald-the-end-of-the-republic-benjamin-franklin.jpg

What if they're just voting to recover the money that was skimmed off of their labors by the 1%?

"It's not stolen, Mr. Rearden. It's yours."
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
you'd think that, but it's more like like a bizarre and abstract satire

It appears that way, but also going woosh a bit with some people.

The debt wasn't an issue with the right until the Negro got in office.

Of course not.

Bull shit! Remember Barney Frank and pals? Remeber the unregulation of the GSE's? Sure you don't. Because your fucktarded reading of far-left bull shit won't tell you the truth. Congress had the power to prevent this shit. Next thing you know they'll blame Bush for Katrina or 9/11. OMGF! Wait! They did! It amazes me that even after two terms of Obozo it's still Bush's fault yet this sack of crap President hasn't done a damn thing but play with his tiny balls *cough* golf balls. What has he done for jobs? Time to take some god damn responsibility! Damn libtard pecker heads. I swear.

John seems like he has been hitting the Jack and Coke again or something this morning.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
618
121
Can't you feel that big red white & blue dick up your ass? Can't you? Well, it's pissing me off already.
 

sm625

Diamond Member
May 6, 2011
8,172
137
106
The left is unstoppable due to the simple fact that they bring in immigrants, put them on welfare, and collect the votes that naturally come to them because they are known as the bigger entitlement party. You cannot compete with that politically because it is a military tactic. The fact that the American people have tolerated this to this point is shocking, but it will not continue indefinitely. 10% of my paycheck goes either directly or indirectly towards this leftist invasion. They know they cant win on ideological grounds, so they just keep bringing in voters from countries that have already been decimated by this crap. And few on the right, not even Trump, is calling this what it is.

The facts are there, and the facts are very clear what is going on here. It is only a matter of time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,339
16,715
136
The left is unstoppable due to the simple fact that they bring in immigrants, put them on welfare, and collect the votes that naturally come to them because they are known as the bigger entitlement party. You cannot compete with that politically because it is a military tactic. The fact that the American people have tolerated this to this point is shocking, but it will not continue indefinitely. 10% of my paycheck goes either directly or indirectly towards this leftist invasion. They know they cant win on ideological grounds, so they just keep bringing in voters from countries that have already been decimated by this crap. And few on the right, not even Trump, is calling this what it is.

The facts are there, and the facts are very clear what is going on here. It is only a matter of time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM

You wouldn't recognize a fact if it slapped you in the face and said, "hi son".
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,685
136
The left is unstoppable due to the simple fact that they bring in immigrants, put them on welfare, and collect the votes that naturally come to them because they are known as the bigger entitlement party. You cannot compete with that politically because it is a military tactic. The fact that the American people have tolerated this to this point is shocking, but it will not continue indefinitely. 10% of my paycheck goes either directly or indirectly towards this leftist invasion. They know they cant win on ideological grounds, so they just keep bringing in voters from countries that have already been decimated by this crap. And few on the right, not even Trump, is calling this what it is.

The facts are there, and the facts are very clear what is going on here. It is only a matter of time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM

That's... completely delusional.

The reason that "the Left" exists at all is because capitalism is incapable of correcting its own deficiencies in the distribution of wealth & income. Left to its own devices, capitalism will concentrate those into fewer & fewer hands until it fails to deliver in what the general population sees as an equitable fashion.

Setting moralistic assumptions aside, that's what happens. We're living it. The only way the little guy can get ahead is through growth & every business cycle delivers more to the tippy top & less to everybody else.

In times past, we were better at moderating capitalism, bending it to the will of the people, keeping it on a leash. You know, all that soul crushing socialism left over from the New Deal. Unions. Meaningful financial regulation. Tariffs. Progressive taxation that was actually progressive at the high end. A sense of corporate obligation to the people, their communities & the nation. All that was set aside in the rise of Reaganomics, sacrificed on the altar of greed.

Your rant about immigrants is so far out in the weeds as to be embarrassing to even read.

Really. It's a delusion so deep & complex as to constitute an alternate non-reality.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
14,337
136
One of these days I hope to see a GOP explanation for why they don't get certain votes that doesn't involve a conspiracy theory.
I won't hold my breath.
 

MrPickins

Diamond Member
May 24, 2003
9,124
787
126

It's very doubtful he ever said that:

http://fakefoundersquotes.tumblr.com/post/89397760173/when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves

“When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” –NOT Benjamin Franklin

This meme was generated (or at least circulated) by Americans for Prosperity. Given that this organization likes to pass itself off as a responsible participant in the nation’s political life, you’d think they’d take 10 seconds to check the veracity of the quotes they attribute to founders like Franklin. But Franklin never said this, even though you wouldn’t know it from the hundreds of times it’s been attributed to him on the web (without citation), almost always by folks with Conservative/Libertarian politics.


The real Ben Franklin was more subtle (and arguably progressive) in his understanding of the relationship between private property and the state. Here’s a quote (too long for a meme, unfortunately) that reveals a far less Conservative/Libertarian Franklin:

“All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages [sic]. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.”
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,695
31,043
146
We are almost at $18.5 trillion in debt (not including additional liabilities). Soon there will be nothing available to give the democrat voters. Of course dem voters are so stupid they will believe the media and blame the Koch brothers when the money runs out.

Let the panty wadding commence.

Ah yes, that is why we are in debt. leftist handouts!

Yes yes! that's the ticket! Just keep believing it
giphy.gif
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
37,562
9
81
One of these days I hope to see a GOP explanation for why they don't get certain votes that doesn't involve a conspiracy theory.
I won't hold my breath.

That's amusing, considering the primary D candidate is well known for crying about a vast right wing conspiracy.
 
Sep 12, 2004
16,852
59
86
The left are a lot of "un" things. Unstoppable is not one that immediately comes to mind.

Eventually the left will become the new right. Their ideas will become stale and, good or bad, new ideas will come along and take precedence...because that's just how politics and the world in general works. So, no, the left is not unstoppable; they are just on a roll for the time being. How long that time lasts is up to them.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,492
3,162
136
We are almost at $18.5 trillion in debt (not including additional liabilities). Soon there will be nothing available to give the democrat voters. Of course dem voters are so stupid they will believe the media and blame the Koch brothers when the money runs out.

Yeah, like "giving" the middle class jobs and employment is now a "bad thing"?
Nice try, but people can still remember how things were under that other party and their other president.
Does September 2008 ring a bell?
Hell, even Donald Trump got that right.

What republicans shoot themselves in the foot over and over again, is basic logic.
If you give people a decent wage, you have no "takers", or very few if any.
It is when you refuse and deny the middle class worker a decent wage, you create the "takers".
Until this changes, every president from now until eternity will be labeled as the food stamp president no matter the party elected.
That is, until the playing field is leveled and republicans running the show realize what has been staring them right in the face all along.
Keeping wages low and poverty high will do nothing to improve the middle class.
Or to lift the poor out of poverty.

Eliminating corporate greed is all it takes.
Share the wealth.
And that word "share" simply means paying the employees their fair share of a wage.
Not company greed and chicken feed.

It's all right there, staring republicans in the face.
A decent fair and just wage eliminates the poverty, the government welfare, the food stamps, and the suffering.

People have money. People work harder. People enjoy life. People buy things. The economy improves. The middle class regains strength.
This is a win win win win situation for everyone.

And this is not communism nor socialism.
This use to simply be known as doing the right thing.
Companies doing the right, just, and fair thing before the greed set in and wages flat-lined.
Thus creating a society of so called "takers".

Donald Trump and every other republican candidate up there for president feel the current minimum wage is just fine as is.
And even with a future republican president, regardless of how many there might be in the future, all will join that elite group known as "the food stamp president".

Raising the minimum wage in itself is not the cure all.
Raising the minimum wage simply creates "the incentive" for corporations and employers to do THE RIGHT THING.
To eliminate the greed within corporate America when it comes to the employee and fair just decent wages.

It's right there, the solution, staring every republican in congress and every republican candidate, right in the face.
 

x26

Senior member
Sep 17, 2007
734
15
81
The Left are the Masters of Propaganda and Disinformation.

Easy to do when 95% of the Media helps spread the Lies and Misinformation.

While everyone is Focused on those "Pesky Republicans" it's easy to do.
 

x26

Senior member
Sep 17, 2007
734
15
81
Yeah, like "giving" the middle class jobs and employment is now a "bad thing"?
Nice try, but people can still remember how things were under that other party and their other president.
Does September 2008 ring a bell?
Hell, even Donald Trump got that right.

What republicans shoot themselves in the foot over and over again, is basic logic.
If you give people a decent wage, you have no "takers", or very few if any.
It is when you refuse and deny the middle class worker a decent wage, you create the "takers".
Until this changes, every president from now until eternity will be labeled as the food stamp president no matter the party elected.
That is, until the playing field is leveled and republicans running the show realize what has been staring them right in the face all along.
Keeping wages low and poverty high will do nothing to improve the middle class.
Or to lift the poor out of poverty.

Eliminating corporate greed is all it takes.
Share the wealth.
And that word "share" simply means paying the employees their fair share of a wage.
Not company greed and chicken feed.

It's all right there, staring republicans in the face.
A decent fair and just wage eliminates the poverty, the government welfare, the food stamps, and the suffering.

People have money. People work harder. People enjoy life. People buy things. The economy improves. The middle class regains strength.
This is a win win win win situation for everyone.

And this is not communism nor socialism.
This use to simply be known as doing the right thing.
Companies doing the right, just, and fair thing before the greed set in and wages flat-lined.
Thus creating a society of so called "takers".

Donald Trump and every other republican candidate up there for president feel the current minimum wage is just fine as is.
And even with a future republican president, regardless of how many there might be in the future, all will join that elite group known as "the food stamp president".

Raising the minimum wage in itself is not the cure all.
Raising the minimum wage simply creates "the incentive" for corporations and employers to do THE RIGHT THING.
To eliminate the greed within corporate America when it comes to the employee and fair just decent wages.

It's right there, the solution, staring every republican in congress and every republican candidate, right in the face.

Name 10 things the Democrats have done to Help Working Class people??
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,339
16,715
136
Name 10 things the Democrats have done to Help Working Class people??

The GI bill
EITC
Family medical leave act
FDIC
HARP
Credit card act
Consumer protection agency
40 hour work week/NLRB
Overall job growth
Health care reform aka the ACA


Your turn!
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
618
121
I wouldn't say the ACA helped working families. Not by a long shot.

And overall job growth? Are you counting this President?

Credit card act had bipartisan support.
 
Last edited:

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
15,198
10,656
136
I wouldn't say the ACA helped working families. Not by a long shot.

And overall job growth? Are you counting this President?

Credit card act had bipartisan support.

In January of 2009, the month the President was sworn in, the job market lost 818,000 jobs.

Income inequality had been going on since the 1970's, this is not a Barack Obama invention. The nation failed to get on all the other Presidents about this.....

But the President who saved the economy from a second Great Depression? The one who saved an automobile industry and done other tremendous feats?

Him....let's blame him.....

Lovely....

Typical Conservative Logic.. keep repeating lies till you find someone weak and gullible to believe you.

We saw economic recessions in July 1981 –Nov 1982, July 1990 –
Mar 1991, March 2001–Nov 2001, Dec 2007 – June 2009 all during Trickle Down Economics.

And if Obama was so terrible for jobs, how come we don't have President Romney right now?

Theatricality and Deception: powerful weapons to the initiated but we are initiated, aren't we?
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
618
121
8 trillion in debt, about 54 million on welfare. Yeah...

There are no fucking jobs! Why do you think Trump is resonating like he is? He knows the corporate inversion shit is destroying this country with regulations, high taxes and over reach.
 
Last edited:

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
22,757
618
121
And if Obama was so terrible for jobs, how come we don't have President Romney right now?


Because quite frankly, and I hate to say this, people are fucking stupid. You reap what you sow. Next time people might understand their one damn vote means more than you would think.

Unless of course you're an illegal or dead, then you vote democrat. Shit.. I remember ACORN now.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,339
16,715
136
Because quite frankly, and I hate to say this, people are fucking stupid. You reap what you sow. Next time people might understand their one damn vote means more than you would think.

Unless of course you're an illegal or dead, then you vote democrat. Shit.. I remember ACORN now.

Yes people are stupid and you are one of them.