Is the HD5770 future proof?

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toyota

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Originally posted by: v8envy
But is it using pixel shader 4.0/4.1 with directx9? That would do it.

not really sure. I just know you can run either DX9 or DX10.
 

Vertibird

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Originally posted by: v8envy
But is it using pixel shader 4.0/4.1 with directx9? That would do it.

Don't these new DX11 cards also have shader 5.0? Or has shader 5.0 intrduced earlier on DX10.x cards?

 

Malak

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: GlacierFreeze

It'll be good for about 2 years, though.

You are overoptimistic. No card can last that long, not even a 5870.

You are underestimating video cards, greatly. Don't let one game be the standard, like everyone does with Crysis. It is the exception, not the rule. Older cards do just fine with the average new game.
 

scooterlibby

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Originally posted by: v8envy





On a more personal note, my factory OC 8800GT 512 still does most everything I ask it to do and it turns 2 years old in December. 2010.

On a very special episode of Oprah:

They said it wouldn't last. They said that v8envy an his OC 8800GT wouldn't be together for more than a month. I mean, come on, a man and his video card can't last that long!

They were wrong...join us as Oprah, v8envy, and his OC 8800GT celebrate two wonderful years together. They share their heart warming story of how they beat the odds. Join us through the good times, like when v8envy found he could still play L4D at highest settings in 2009, and the perilous bad times, like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

 

v8envy

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Originally posted by: scooterlibby like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

Hilariously, they list a radeon 9600 as a minimum to run that game. You know what. I'm going to track down an AGP radeon, see if my old XP2400 gathering dust in the basement still boots and check just how ghetto of a machine can fire up S:CS.

An 8800GT can run S:CS, just not at 19x12 with FSAA forced in the driver. Running the benchmark gives me daytime 18 min fps with preset "High", renderer "Enhanced full dynamic lighting". Average just short of 30. Night time a bit higher.

The pretty rays version, while gorgeous, would be unplayable.
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: GlacierFreeze

It'll be good for about 2 years, though.

You are overoptimistic. No card can last that long, not even a 5870.

You are underestimating video cards, greatly. Don't let one game be the standard, like everyone does with Crysis. It is the exception, not the rule. Older cards do just fine with the average new game.

I really don't care to much for Crysis, but once there are a couple of games that will not let me use AA for example, because they start to struggle, then IMO, the card is becoming obsolete. ;)
It depends what everyone is playing and how they are playing. Because if one is only playing CS, then even a 3 years old 7600 is enough. If you play most of everything and want to use maximum settings all the time, a card will never last 2 years for you. 8800 GTX is an exception.
 

fffblackmage

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Originally posted by: v8envy
Because the X1950XT is not a DX10 card? It's a DX9 card.

I KNOW RE5 supports DX9 and DX10, cuz I've already installed the game and it gives me a .exe for each version.

But is it using pixel shader 4.0/4.1 with directx9? That would do it.

The X1950XT supports PS3.0

Minimum system requirements for RE5 is:

VRAM (256MB) DirectX9.0c/Shader 3.0 NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro

As for your situation: get a 4850 for below $100, or the hot deal $70 9800GT. It'll be a very, very nice upgrade and play what you want. The 4770 and 4750 are a waste of money at their current price.
Did you mean the 5770/5750?
 

cusideabelincoln

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Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: scooterlibby like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

Hilariously, they list a radeon 9600 as a minimum to run that game. You know what. I'm going to track down an AGP radeon, see if my old XP2400 gathering dust in the basement still boots and check just how ghetto of a machine can fire up S:CS.

An 8800GT can run S:CS, just not at 19x12 with FSAA forced in the driver. Running the benchmark gives me daytime 18 min fps with preset "High", renderer "Enhanced full dynamic lighting". Average just short of 30. Night time a bit higher.

The pretty rays version, while gorgeous, would be unplayable.

There's no way a Radeon 9600 can play Stalker. I still have a 9600 Pro... and there's no way I can see it playing any new game at any detail level.

If I had Stalker, I would most certainly try it, though ;)
 

toyota

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Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: scooterlibby like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

Hilariously, they list a radeon 9600 as a minimum to run that game. You know what. I'm going to track down an AGP radeon, see if my old XP2400 gathering dust in the basement still boots and check just how ghetto of a machine can fire up S:CS.

An 8800GT can run S:CS, just not at 19x12 with FSAA forced in the driver. Running the benchmark gives me daytime 18 min fps with preset "High", renderer "Enhanced full dynamic lighting". Average just short of 30. Night time a bit higher.

The pretty rays version, while gorgeous, would be unplayable.

There's no way a Radeon 9600 can play Stalker. I still have a 9600 Pro... and there's no way I can see it playing any new game at any detail level.

If I had Stalker, I would most certainly try it, though ;)

I believe it plays static lighting(dx8) just fine.
 

IlllI

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
the term "future proof" needs to die a horrible fiery death

we could replace it with "moderately viable for the next few years"

but that probably wont catch on :p

 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: IlllI
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
the term "future proof" needs to die a horrible fiery death

we could replace it with "moderately viable for the next few years"

but that probably wont catch on :p

"future resistant" is definitely a better term, but alas, even that has too many syllables for your average interneter
 

cusideabelincoln

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Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: scooterlibby like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

Hilariously, they list a radeon 9600 as a minimum to run that game. You know what. I'm going to track down an AGP radeon, see if my old XP2400 gathering dust in the basement still boots and check just how ghetto of a machine can fire up S:CS.

An 8800GT can run S:CS, just not at 19x12 with FSAA forced in the driver. Running the benchmark gives me daytime 18 min fps with preset "High", renderer "Enhanced full dynamic lighting". Average just short of 30. Night time a bit higher.

The pretty rays version, while gorgeous, would be unplayable.

There's no way a Radeon 9600 can play Stalker. I still have a 9600 Pro... and there's no way I can see it playing any new game at any detail level.

If I had Stalker, I would most certainly try it, though ;)

I believe it plays static lighting(dx8) just fine.

I'm talking about performance. Performance will be completely unplayable, no matter the settings.
 

toyota

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: scooterlibby like when V8envy popped in Stalker: Clear Sky and most of his PC exploded.

Hilariously, they list a radeon 9600 as a minimum to run that game. You know what. I'm going to track down an AGP radeon, see if my old XP2400 gathering dust in the basement still boots and check just how ghetto of a machine can fire up S:CS.

An 8800GT can run S:CS, just not at 19x12 with FSAA forced in the driver. Running the benchmark gives me daytime 18 min fps with preset "High", renderer "Enhanced full dynamic lighting". Average just short of 30. Night time a bit higher.

The pretty rays version, while gorgeous, would be unplayable.

There's no way a Radeon 9600 can play Stalker. I still have a 9600 Pro... and there's no way I can see it playing any new game at any detail level.

If I had Stalker, I would most certainly try it, though ;)

I believe it plays static lighting(dx8) just fine.

I'm talking about performance. Performance will be completely unplayable, no matter the settings.

it is playable on static lighting on lower settings but it looks like ass.
 

toyota

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
So you have personally done so?

no but I have seen a few people in different forums post screens and talk about the performance. DX8 and low settings are not very demanding. HL2 is even playable in DX9 on an ATI 9600 so imagine how easy it could handle DX8 settings.
 

cusideabelincoln

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ROFL, why do you always bring up irrelevant bullshit? HL2 has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Should I do the same? I put TF2 in DX7 mode and it's not playable on an X800. Oh wait, if by playable you mean sub-20 FPS, mouse lag, and a slide show, then YEAH!

The only way I'll believe Clear Skies to be playable on a 9600 is if I do so myself. I'm certainly not going to take the minimum requirements or some random person's impressions of the matter, as my point of reference does not allow me to do so at this time.
 

toyota

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cusideabelincoln
ROFL, why do you always bring up irrelevant bullshit? HL2 has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Should I do the same? I put TF2 in DX7 mode and it's not playable on an X800. Oh wait, if by playable you mean sub-20 FPS, mouse lag, and a slide show, then YEAH!

The only way I'll believe Clear Skies to be playable on a 9600 is if I do so myself. I'm certainly not going to take the minimum requirements or some random person's impressions of the matter, as my point of reference does not allow me to do so at this time.

you asked if I had done it and I said no but obviously others have. STALKER in DX8 certainly cant be more demanding than HL2 is in DX9 now can it? are they directly comparable? no, but the ATI 9600 could certainly play HL2 on DX9 fairly easily so I am sure it would have no trouble with any DX8 single player game especially on low settings.
 

cusideabelincoln

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You make crap assumptions and analogies, dude.

TF2 in DX7 is more demanding than HL2 in DX9 as far as my experience goes. So your whole DX argument is null and avoid AFAIC.