Is the FX60 stock cooler just bad or

[Absolute0]

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0
I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

And void your warranty on the 1000$ baby too!

Using an aftermarket HSF doesn't void your warranty.

 

[MrFanel]

Originally posted by: Absolute0

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0
I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

And void your warranty on the 1000$ baby too!

Using an aftermarket HSF doesn't void your warranty.

It does.

Read the certificate that came with your retail box; it clearly states there that using a HSF other then the stock one that was included with the proc voids the warranty. When you request service from us, we will ask you first if you have been using the original HSF and then when you send it in since its a high end proc we will require you to send the HSF, the retail box and the proc. HSF wil be inspected to determine if it has been used or not; if you are smart enough you wlil slap that HSF on for a couple of hours to let the thermal interface material soak through and leave an imprint. If you are dumb, you'd send it in untouched and then we will own you. Also, we have the ability to determine if the original HSF was used or not, but usually we would not bother. We also have the ability to find out if the proc has been overclocked and whether the heatspreader has been removed.

 

[Rubycon]

I had to return an Athlon XP to AMD for replacement once and they wanted the fan's barcode.

Removing the IHS is just silly kind of like spending hours of lapping for a degree or two. If your overclock is that close to the threshold of error you're WAY too close to the limit IMO unless you don't care about what your computer is used for. Purely gaming I can see this not being an issue other than the headache from a reboot in the middle of a deathmatch.

 

[MrFanel]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
I had to return an Athlon XP to AMD for replacement once and they wanted the fan's barcode.

Removing the IHS is just silly kind of like spending hours of lapping for a degree or two. If your overclock is that close to the threshold of error you're WAY too close to the limit IMO unless you don't care about what your computer is used for. Purely gaming I can see this not being an issue other than the headache from a reboot in the middle of a deathmatch.

Old XP's, we'd ask for the sticker off the fan. With all new procs (that means sempron, A64, X2, optys) we'd usually ask for the actual HSF to be sent along with the fan.

 

[Absolute0]

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0
I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

And void your warranty on the 1000$ baby too!

Using an aftermarket HSF doesn't void your warranty.

It does.

Read the certificate that came with your retail box; it clearly states there that using a HSF other then the stock one that was included with the proc voids the warranty. When you request service from us, we will ask you first if you have been using the original HSF and then when you send it in since its a high end proc we will require you to send the HSF, the retail box and the proc. HSF wil be inspected to determine if it has been used or not; if you are smart enough you wlil slap that HSF on for a couple of hours to let the thermal interface material soak through and leave an imprint. If you are dumb, you'd send it in untouched and then we will own you. Also, we have the ability to determine if the original HSF was used or not, but usually we would not bother. We also have the ability to find out if the proc has been overclocked and whether the heatspreader has been removed.

Uh huh - and how do i know so many people who have successfully RMAd AMD64s that have been heavily overclocked on all kinds of exotic cooling?

 

[MrFanel]

Originally posted by: Absolute0

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0

Originally posted by: MrFanel

Originally posted by: Absolute0
I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

And void your warranty on the 1000$ baby too!

Using an aftermarket HSF doesn't void your warranty.

It does.

Read the certificate that came with your retail box; it clearly states there that using a HSF other then the stock one that was included with the proc voids the warranty. When you request service from us, we will ask you first if you have been using the original HSF and then when you send it in since its a high end proc we will require you to send the HSF, the retail box and the proc. HSF wil be inspected to determine if it has been used or not; if you are smart enough you wlil slap that HSF on for a couple of hours to let the thermal interface material soak through and leave an imprint. If you are dumb, you'd send it in untouched and then we will own you. Also, we have the ability to determine if the original HSF was used or not, but usually we would not bother. We also have the ability to find out if the proc has been overclocked and whether the heatspreader has been removed.

Uh huh - and how do i know so many people who have successfully RMAd AMD64s that have been heavily overclocked on all kinds of exotic cooling?

It depends on what kind of an A64 it is. If you are sending me a regular A64, 3000, 3200... well we dont check them we just toss them. If you sending me a higher end one, a dual core, an FX, opteron... they will be checked. Now obviously i am not the only person there so I don't know the method my other coworkers use, but I'd check it for all the obvious signs of abuse; if i am able to find them, i'd reject the RMA. Otherwise I guess some people are just really good at covering what they have done.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: MrFanel

It depends on what kind of an A64 it is. If you are sending me a regular A64, 3000, 3200... well we dont check them we just toss them. If you sending me a higher end one, a dual core, an FX, opteron... they will be checked. Now obviously i am not the only person there so I don't know the method my other coworkers use, but I'd check it for all the obvious signs of abuse; if i am able to find them, i'd reject the RMA. Otherwise I guess some people are just really good at covering what they have done.

If an RMA is rejected do they return it to the owner? So perhaps they can attempt to umm recover some of their money? :laugh:

 

[Absolute0]

Well (an i apologize for the OT), it is very easy to cover using any other type of cooling. I can take any CPU ive got, throw it on air, water or phase, i've got all 3 sitting next to me. My choice of thermal paste, wipe it off, looks new.

The typical overclocker would probably put a 3800+ X2 or something, and put it under a Big Typhoon. Assuming he ran on the stock heatsink for 4 days before he picked up a Big Typhoon, and then wiped away his AS5, how are you going to tell he used aftermarket cooling? How are you going to tell he even overclocked it?

@ link above, LOL, that's too bad. I chopped up 2 caps on my 170 in sig when removing the IHS and it runs great, 3.15 Ghz all day long.

 

[MrFanel]

Lol yeah we will reject an RMA with evidence of alteration or abuse. Sometimes we can tell through a short test, something we can't. You never know.