Is the FX60 stock cooler just bad or

[Rubycon]

Idle temp is 49C load gets in the upper 50's. :Q

Of course that's the norm for the prescotts but it seems warm for AMD?

 

[BlueWeasel]

That seems too high if you're running at stock. Does the newer AMD X2/Opteron heatpipe come with the FX60?

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Idle temp is 49C load gets in the upper 50's. :Q

Of course that's the norm for the prescotts but it seems warm for AMD?

That does appear to be excessive.

Mine idles at 41C and hits 48-50C under load on a Zalman CNPS 9500.

Did you install the stock hsf or did it come pre-assembled?

 

[Rubycon]

It's running at stock speed of 2813 MHz according to CPU-Z software. (200x14)

The cooler looks like a Thermaltake XP90 with heat pipes. CPU never crashes however from what I've been reading with other users' experiences it seems excessive. Temp is from Asus probe software XP 64 bit. For some reason the asus probe (reads "Probe2.exe *32 in task manager) is using 50% CPU!

The HSF was installed from the retail box using the pad on the copper base.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

that isn't styock speed. its a 213 MHz OC and just about the limit of the FX-60 unless you go for overvolting and exotic cooling.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
that isn't styock speed. its a 213 MHz OC and just about the limit of the FX-60 unless you go for overvolting and exotic cooling.

Right I meant stock voltage. It will run over 3GHz without a voltage boost. (I tried it!) But seems to hang on one core. 3.0GHz is a nice even number though and seems faster than the P4 running at 4.33GHz sitting next to it.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

The HSF was installed from the retail box using the pad on the copper base.

You could take the hsf off, remove that pad and reinstall the hsf with Arctic Silver 5.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: iRONic

You could take the hsf off, remove that pad and reinstall the hsf with Arctic Silver 5.

Well that will be done - when the HSF gets replaced with a Tuniq Tower.

This stuff is out of control. LOL

 

[iRONic]

Heh heh...

 

[darkdemyze]

Wow, even for an FX-60 that seems quite toasty. My 4400+ idles at 24C..good luck tho with the new hsf :thumbsup:

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: darkdemyze
Wow, even for an FX-60 that seems quite toasty. My 4400+ idles at 24C..good luck tho with the new hsf :thumbsup:

Good lord do you live in a freezer?

 

[JAG87]

^^ yea what the hell, my room is hotter then 24C...


ms dawn, I would definetely try to take the crap-pad off, and reinstalling the hsf with some AS5. That hsf is mighty good, runs cooler then an XP-90, and if you have good airflow in your case you should have no problem hitting 3.0 ghz stable. make sure you blob the AS5 in the middle of the chip and then go from there.

 

[Rubycon]

See now you got me thinking about this and I'll probably give the AS5 a try. The box is very close to room temp - basically an open box. (Cooler Master Stacker 830 - the spacey looking one.) 120mm fan in front of hdd, in top, in back and one on side door that opens. All "silent" 19 dBA fans - moving 35 CFM according to the awesome Alnor balometer the ship's engineer let us borrow.

 

[Rubycon]

You know what's strange? The VCORE has a ceiling of 1.425 no matter how high it's set in the BIOS. And that's the voltage it defaults to. Hmmm.

 

[TheRyuu]

Water Cooling is the way to go.

Never broke 34C and I'm at 2.75ghz @ 1.5v

 

[aka1nas]

Asus boards usually read a few degrees high IME.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
Asus boards usually read a few degrees high IME.

Yes this appears to be the trend. The PC Probe doesn't help with the fact that it uses 50% CPU (basically hogs a core) when running. :disgust:

Anything else to monitor temps in x64? MBM doesn't work.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
You know what's strange? The VCORE has a ceiling of 1.425 no matter how high it's set in the BIOS. And that's the voltage it defaults to. Hmmm.

Very very strange...

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: aka1nas
Asus boards usually read a few degrees high IME.

Yes this appears to be the trend. The PC Probe doesn't help with the fact that it uses 50% CPU (basically hogs a core) when running. :disgust:

Anything else to monitor temps in x64? MBM doesn't work.

I just checked, I get 1% CPU usage.

Screenshot

 

[darkdemyze]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: darkdemyze
Wow, even for an FX-60 that seems quite toasty. My 4400+ idles at 24C..good luck tho with the new hsf :thumbsup:

Good lord do you live in a freezer?

Heh, ambiant temps are around 17-23C plus I have 5 case fans ( still makes less noise than my father's Dell ): 2 side intake, 1 top intake, 2 rear exhaust.

At stock speeds it got down to 21C idle, 28.5C 50% load after 20 mins F@H

 

[MrFanel]

First off - you are not running stock speeds, you are overclocking; stock multiplier should be 13 not 14.

Second - you are within the right range of temps; it shouldn't really matter much.

Your temp celing is 65C so you are within the normal range. Now regarding the coolers... I've seen some here at the lab give different results being the same exact model of the cooler.

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: MrFanel
First off - you are not running stock speeds, you are overclocking; stock multiplier should be 13 not 14.

Second - you are within the right range of temps; it shouldn't really matter much.

Your temp celing is 65C so you are within the normal range. Now regarding the coolers... I've seen some here at the lab give different results being the same exact model of the cooler.

What would make the PC Probe show 50% CPU uasage when it's the only app running?

 

[Absolute0]

I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

 

[MrFanel]

Originally posted by: Absolute0
I'm looking at 39c load with my 170 @ 3.15 Ghz watercooled, secret is IHS removal .

I don't see why you would spend a grand on a CPU and use stock cooling! Treat your baby to something better

And void your warranty on the 1000$ baby too!

Now regarding why the proc is running at 50% while only running the asus probe, I don't have an answer to that. If I understand correctly the OP stated that she is running Windows XP 64 bit... it could be a bug in the OS, it could be a pad proc; we have a 64 bit test rig over here so she can send it to our lab to be tested if she wishes.


Edit: Also just realized, since she has an Asus motherboard, it might be that Q-Fan is enabled and is causing all sorts of shenanigans with the HSF. OP - do you notice that your fan speed drops down or just stops alltogether? If so you might want to check in your BIOS if your motherboard has Q-Fan support and then disable that feature.

 

[Rubycon]

Q Fan and Q&C is disabled.

Someone care to explain how to o/c more efficiently? Upping the mult to 14x for 2800 is not the most efficient way especially with DDR550 ram. :Q I don't understand the multipliers in the BIOS and it is a major PIA to keep moving that CMOS reset jumper. I have four sticks so the timing must be 2T. 1T prevents POST unless only two sticks are running in the board. This is no surprise obviously.

Yes the OS is 64bit and I would not be surprised if the ASUS probe is having difficulty as there is an i/o error every time it starts. I believe I have a ghost image for Win32 for this machine I'll have to set NIC2 to boot off the ghost cast server and see what kind of trouble I get into.