Is the Core 2 Duo too good to be true?

[thestain]

Intel was rumored to have embedded DRM's into its chipsets and processors dating back to last spring with Pentium D and the 945 chipset.. What does Intel have inside its Core 2 Duo that it apparently delayed and improved until.. it may just be too good to pass up regardless of what it comes with??

Just what comes with our decision to wait for, long for, the otherwise best cpu we could possibly buy today?

and.. with Vista certification only going to cpus and gpus with embedded DRM as a requirement.. just what is going to be coming in your next Graphics card that is Vista certified? and.. although word is AMD did not embed DRM in the AM2's yet.. it seems to be getting along better with Microsoft lately, so.. how long until AMD has DRM too?

Anybody remember the stunt Sony pulled with its content protected music last fall?

Thoughts? Should someone contact "Whole Foods" and see if we can get something like, "Organic" labels when buying Computer Hardware and Software?

I don't like Piracy, but.. it just seems to me that the ownership over the software and hardware we buy is being pirated from us by those "trusted" companies, many of which we do business with.. Microsoft, Sony, Intel, Phillips, etc..

 

[FelixDeCat]

tinfoil hat anyone?

 

[kknd1967]

No#4! Keep up the good work the stain! Bring more fun

intel's DRAM will have min affect on you, compared to whatever MS is doing on the layer independent of hardware

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
tinfoil hat anyone?

Ignorance must be bliss, eh?

 

[thestain]

Anyone know of any options.. a friend pointed AMD, ATYT, Intel, Microsoft,nVidia and don't forget those special transmitting chips made by Silicon Image or the efforts of Philips, or Sony's getting caught due to poor programing.. etc.. all have taken some of our computing rights away in the name of content protection.. I just don't get it.. as a diy.. lets say I have 17 out of 18 components that are compliant, that one could get my tv or monitor picture quality cut to 25% of 1080P or.. wreck my sound quality.

If not for this HDCP, Vista Premium Certified, DRM, invasion of my privacy.. taking away of my control of my computer.. taking away my right to enjoy equipment and software I purchased with my hard earned money.. I am FRUSTERPLATED, ok.

I don't copy anything.. I just want to enjoy what I own.. HELP! I long for the days when Monopolistic policies of groups of Corporations were not permitted by our Government.

If not for all this junk.. it would be much easier to be an enthusiast.. and.. I am still am.. I just have to put the blinders back on now.. ok.. done.. better..

:beer:

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
tinfoil hat anyone?

Ignorance must be bliss, eh?

You probably also think 911 was a setup too huh?

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
tinfoil hat anyone?

Ignorance must be bliss, eh?

You probably also think 911 was a setup too huh?

the govt didnt do it, a bunch of snakes did! omfg snakez on a plane!

 

[DrMrLordX]

It's not fair to single out Intel chips as being DRM-infested (Lagrande). AMD's chips on the AM2 platform apparently have their own DRM embedded as well (Presidio).

 

[thestain]

What is Presidio and does amd really have some sort of "Trusted" tech embedded on the new AM2 cpus? Just what kind of DRM or Output Protection Management or PVP-UAB is on the AM2 cpus or AM2 motherboards.. My inquiring mind wants to know..

I kind of get it.. just don't know the extent this is to take control away from the end user.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20040922120030.html

Thanks!

The Stain

 

[josepavento]

Nobody is forcing you to buy their hardware or software.

Don't like it? Go design your own...

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: josepavento
Nobody is forcing you to buy their hardware or software.

Don't like it? Go design your own...

You free market religionists are hysterical. :laugh:

 

[Gamer X]

I have problems hitting 10GHz on my newly designed quad core. Anybody have luck with their designs ?

 

[thestain]

Originally posted by: josepavento
Nobody is forcing you to buy their hardware or software.

Don't like it? Go design your own...

I dunno.. do you think your trusted computing group would appreciate me not buying their hardware or software and designing my own?

The Stain

 

[slowpogo]

I do NOT want to feed some kind of a degenerative online conspiracy thread, but I think it's a totally valid concern. Just look at recent, factual threats on civil liberties--the NSA wiretapping, the section of the patriot act that authorizes seizure of library records (thankfully not in effect yet)..I'll stop there, but hey, things seem to be going in that direction.

If anyone has more info, or some sane links on the future of computing privacy I'd love to see it.

(And honestly, I think it's pretty tough to say definitively one way or the other, but 911 had some legitimately weird stuff goin' on... )

 

[defiantsf]

Here you go Slowpogo:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/045152.../102-2382195-2890548?v=glance&n=283155
Just twenty years or so ahead of its projected timeline.

And slightly less dimmer future in less than 955 days...http://bushclock.lose.com

 

[DrMrLordX]

DRM has proven to be a non-issue for people up to this point, particularly those who wish to circumvent it. Remember all the hubbub over the Pentium III chip IDs?

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/1999-May/002098.html

That never wound up being more than a hype-fest.

 

[imported_Questar]

Didn't you start another thread about the same subject? You didn't do enough bleating in the thread?

 

[ChurchOfSubgenius]

Ignorance must be bliss, eh?

You probably also think 911 was a setup too huh?[/quote]

the govt didnt do it, a bunch of snakes did! omfg snakez on a plane![/quote]

ROFL