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jjyiz28

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it seems like the newer barton and mobile bartons are not o/cing as high as they used to. so don't get your hopes up of reaching even 2.3 with moderate voltages.
 

pillage2001

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Originally posted by: nvfx
Ever Heard of BURN-IN Period!!! REad some technical Facts about this period, REMEMBER any thing, absolutely anything used in this world excessivly or abused will harm you than to aid you. If you are a frequent Updater to your PC, than you will be happy to OC even if you Had a P4 Extreme Edition despite knowing the fact that its fast. Its not JUST overclocking which make a CPU Stand out of the rest, whats matter most is the Sheer Pace at its default speeds.

So answer me this, Why do People buy INTEL P4's when they know AMD M Proc can beat them and are priced much lower, more over Niether AMD Nor INTEL provides Outstanding Heatsinks to help you Maximum OC.

So if any one is running OC AMD permanentely for 2 years, what sort of benefit you get. Loading your windows a few seconds quicker or Powerpoint some Nanoseconds quicker, Nor do you run 3D MArk every day, or Play Far Cry for every time.

Take it this way, Zalman as we all know Make one of the best HSF's for OC, yet they never ever recommend you to OC.

These are my views, i can OC my 1.5 P4 to 2.0 Ghz w/o V Mod, but i get a differenec of about 8 Deg under Load, so i dont OC because its useless.

And to add more, if some one offers you to buy a 2nd Hand or Used AMD M Proc, your mind will immediately react and say NO!, thinking that the Proc might be OCed or something Like That.

I am a neutral Party, No special for Intel, by the way you cant argue Intel is the Largest Chip Manu. Can you ??

Why people buy Intel or AMD?? It's all personal preference and those who know what they are doing buy according to their needs.

Running a OC CPU and what do I get?? Satisfaction that I gain from the CPU that ran faster than it should and gave me a certain amount of % gained.

And to add more, if some one offers you to buy a 2nd Hand or Used AMD M Proc, your mind will immediately react and say NO!, thinking that the Proc might be OCed or something Like That.

Go fvck yourself and die. Many CPUs are exchanged in the FS/FT side. I got my CPU from there and it was used. It lasted me a good 1.5 years and it will last me a long time more.

I am a neutral Party, No special for Intel, by the way you cant argue Intel is the Largest Chip Manu. Can you ??

Again, you're a moron to think that they are the best because they are the biggest.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: pillage2001
Originally posted by: nvfx
Ever Heard of BURN-IN Period!!! REad some technical Facts about this period, REMEMBER any thing, absolutely anything used in this world excessivly or abused will harm you than to aid you. If you are a frequent Updater to your PC, than you will be happy to OC even if you Had a P4 Extreme Edition despite knowing the fact that its fast. Its not JUST overclocking which make a CPU Stand out of the rest, whats matter most is the Sheer Pace at its default speeds.

So answer me this, Why do People buy INTEL P4's when they know AMD M Proc can beat them and are priced much lower, more over Niether AMD Nor INTEL provides Outstanding Heatsinks to help you Maximum OC.

So if any one is running OC AMD permanentely for 2 years, what sort of benefit you get. Loading your windows a few seconds quicker or Powerpoint some Nanoseconds quicker, Nor do you run 3D MArk every day, or Play Far Cry for every time.

Take it this way, Zalman as we all know Make one of the best HSF's for OC, yet they never ever recommend you to OC.

These are my views, i can OC my 1.5 P4 to 2.0 Ghz w/o V Mod, but i get a differenec of about 8 Deg under Load, so i dont OC because its useless.

And to add more, if some one offers you to buy a 2nd Hand or Used AMD M Proc, your mind will immediately react and say NO!, thinking that the Proc might be OCed or something Like That.

I am a neutral Party, No special for Intel, by the way you cant argue Intel is the Largest Chip Manu. Can you ??

And to add more, if some one offers you to buy a 2nd Hand or Used AMD M Proc, your mind will immediately react and say NO!, thinking that the Proc might be OCed or something Like That.

Go fvck yourself and die. Many CPUs are exchanged in the FS/FT side. I got my CPU from there and it was used. It lasted me a good 1.5 years and it will last me a long time more.

Also remember that some people prefer an OC chip, because they can be almost certain they will also get a good OC out of it (I'm sure most people wouldn't mind some of DAPUNISHER and the likes old CPU's).
 

nvfx

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I give Up!, MAy be all of you are getting fully functional OC with the AMD M proc, This crazy stuff has made my mind confused, I can save about 130 $ on buying a 2500 M over the 3000 64 and invest that over new graphic Cards.

I was first investing 250 $ on 9800 Pro + TT Cooler, now buying a 2500 saves me 130 $ so i can now talk a bit close to 400 $ Graphic Card, lets see what we get from NV and ATI.
 

Zebo

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I am a neutral Party, No special for Intel, by the way you cant argue Intel is the Largest Chip Manu. Can you ??

And I can't argue Brittney sells more than Beethoven either. But that don't make her better now does it?

In the case of intel they were indeed superior for a very long time. During this period they could command a surcharge on thier chips yeilding tremendous profits which has been smartly used to get the word out (advertising). However since the first Athlon these two makers have more or less parity accross the board and one happens to be signifigantly less money. Dispite AMD's price/performance crown Intel has succesfully brainwashed the masses and proves a fool and his money are easily parted. And proves martekting is an effective tool to part these fools from thier money. You bought it musta worked.
 

ColossusX

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I recently got a Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Retail box for $212 @ newegg. Saved $200 for a 5-10% slower card than the 9800XT. Plus I can OC my card to XT or faster specs, while the XT is almost at it's maximum speed. Save your money and get the 9800Pro.

I overclock because I like to get the absolute most for my money. I spent $90 to get a Mobile 2500 and have it running at 2.4ghz, almost a 33% increase in stock speed! If I could afford a $400 cpu, then maybe I wouldnt OC so much, but I cant afford one.

And of course OCing voids a warranty, just like adding bigger tires or body kits voids warranties on cars, but if you do it smart, you wont even need the warranty.
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: nvfx
I give Up!, MAy be all of you are getting fully functional OC with the AMD M proc, This crazy stuff has made my mind confused, I can save about 130 $ on buying a 2500 M over the 3000 64 and invest that over new graphic Cards.

I was first investing 250 $ on 9800 Pro + TT Cooler, now buying a 2500 saves me 130 $ so i can now talk a bit close to 400 $ Graphic Card, lets see what we get from NV and ATI.
Here are a couple of links for you, nvfx, 1) a 2.5ghz mobile Athlon destroying a 3.4ghz Prescott, and nearly keeping up with an $850 FX-53: link and 2) my XP-M 2600 running Prime95 stablily for <12 hours @12x209fsb: link, using only large fft's which is roughtly the equivalent of running the normal "blend" torture test for 5 or 6 days.
 

mpteach

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Apr 13, 2004
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I am new to Anand tech and real overclocking and i ready to build my second sytem. This awesome AMD mobile creation seems like the first chip that can overclock without annoying complications.

I use high quality cooling components but i undervolt my fans for low noise operation; im not looking for the ultimate benchmark scores but good performance at a great price. A setup that will last me untill 64B cpu's are the norm :(


Can i expect a Mobile XP2600 to run reliably for 2.5 years with 1.60V while running @ 10.5 X 220 (2.31GHz) speeds ? I plan on buying quality pc3500 Ram (512Mb x2) and a nice dual channel overclokable mobo.
 

myocardia

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Every processor and every motherboard are different, and overclock differently, mp. The only way you're going to know what the chip you're going to buy is going to do with any certain voltage, is to buy it and try it. Nothing in overclocking is guaranteed.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: 4x4expy


I have mine running at 4.75v at 2200mhz, 44c max load temp in summer heat, it's awesome!!


You are brave, my man. I try never to go over 4.5v myself! ;)



Heh heh heh, my bad. 1.475, Dirrrr.

-Brian
 

mpteach

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Originally posted by: BD231
Originally posted by: 4x4expy


I have mine running at 4.75v at 2200mhz, 44c max load temp in summer heat, it's awesome!!


You are brave, my man. I try never to go over 4.5v myself! ;)



Heh heh heh, my bad. 1.475, Dirrrr.

-Brian


1.475 is good! What fsb are you using @1.475V? At 4.7V youc could easily get 2.00Ghz on the fsb :D
 

BD231

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^^^

200mhz FSB, I'd go higher but it's fast enough for my needs and my 3200 stick dose not oc as well as the 3700. I need the extra ram though and don't feel like spending money on faster ram.
 

Avalon

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Typically even the new barton mobiles will still hit 2.3-2.4ghz at default vcore
I've bought several IQYHA stepping ones, and they all manage
so it's a fairly safe bet to get one of these and reach what you need...opt for the 2600+ variant for a little security