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Question Is that somehow possible to use Core i7 - 10700F CPU at 4.8 GHZ all core?

jpiniero

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You might be able to get a little more by overclocking the bus but I dunno if that's really worth it because stability becomes an issue.
 
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You missed the part where you buy a Z490 board for over clocking, I think.

As it is, you could likely really shorten the life of that board with overclocking, so why not just enjoy a really nice, really fast CPU? :)
 
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You missed the part where you buy a Z490 board for over clocking, I think.

As it is, you could likely really shorten the life of that board with overclocking, so why not just enjoy a really nice, really fast CPU? :)
Yup.

Locked CPU and a B460 motherboard, don't end up damaging something, using a lot more power, and creating a lot more heat for minor gains.

Honestly, with a high-end Noctua cooler as well, I'm not sure why you didn't spring for a Z motherboard and unlocked CPU if you wanted to push your setup. From the reviews/articles I've read, one of the biggest gains with Intel's 10th gen CPU is using faster RAM, and with the B460 chipset I believe you are capped at DDR4 2933 speeds.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700/
 
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Yup.

Locked CPU and a B460 motherboard, don't end up damaging something, using a lot more power, and creating a lot more heat for minor gains.

Honestly, with a high-end Noctua cooler as well, I'm not sure why you didn't spring for a Z motherboard and unlocked CPU if you wanted to push your setup. From the reviews/articles I've read, one of the biggest gains with Intel's 10th gen CPU is using faster RAM, and with the B460 chipset I believe you are capped at DDR4 2933 speeds.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700/
my ram is already 3000 mhz there fore 2933 cap is fine

also 4.6 GHZ all core is fine as well but if I can up base clock like 1 or 2 mhz that would be even better :)

however I couldn't find option to change base clock
 

lobz

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Today my new CPU arrived and thankfully it is working

It is working stable at 4.6 GHZ all core

But can I use it at higher clocks somehow?

I have MSI MAG B460M MORTAR motherboard

NOCTUA NH-D14 Cooler

CPU-z benchmark : https://valid.x86.fr/qcpqqr



r/overclocking - Is that somehow possible to use Core i7 - 10700F CPU at 4.8 GHZ all core?


r/overclocking - Is that somehow possible to use Core i7 - 10700F CPU at 4.8 GHZ all core?


r/overclocking - Is that somehow possible to use Core i7 - 10700F CPU at 4.8 GHZ all core?
Both your CPU and motherboard are locked by the vendor. The 2 possible solutions would have been a) buying AMD or b) buying a more expensive Intel system.

After the purchase? Acceptance, but mostly the realisation that a 8 core CPU running @ 4.6 GHz all-core will serve you perfectly for a long time :)
 
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Both your CPU and motherboard are locked by the vendor. The 2 possible solutions would have been a) buying AMD or b) buying a more expensive Intel system.

After the purchase? Acceptance, but mostly the realisation that a 8 core CPU running @ 4.6 GHz all-core will serve you perfectly for a long time :)
Ye I were using 2600k @4.5 GHZ for like 9 years now

This was a huge boost for me

2600k were getting 3802 score at cine bench

now I am getting 12456 - 327% of previous
 
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KentState

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If you did buy a 10700K and Z490 MB then it's very easy to run it at 5Ghz all core from what I've seen if you have adequate cooling. It seems to be just as stable as my 9900K build which has been set at 5Ghz all core since that chip launched a few years ago. However, a higher all core over clock didn't have as big of an impact as just allowing all of the cores to boost to the same frequency even if it's just 4.6 or 4.8Ghz.
 

MonsterMMORPG

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If you did buy a 10700K and Z490 MB then it's very easy to run it at 5Ghz all core from what I've seen if you have adequate cooling. It seems to be just as stable as my 9900K build which has been set at 5Ghz all core since that chip launched a few years ago. However, a higher all core over clock didn't have as big of an impact as just allowing all of the cores to boost to the same frequency even if it's just 4.6 or 4.8Ghz.
I wish I had purchased 5600x

I see that it has 20% better single core and almost same multi core performance
 

scannall

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I wish I had purchased 5600x

I see that it has 20% better single core and almost same multi core performance
Eh, that might have been a better choice. But the thing is, what you have is just fine and will last you many years. There aren't really any bad desktop CPU's from either Intel or AMD. Don't get all caught up in the benchmarks, because it is doubtful you'll notice the difference in day to day use. Just enjoy what you have, it really is a nice system.
 
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blckgrffn

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Eh, that might have been a better choice. But the thing is, what you have is just fine and will last you many years. There aren't really any bad desktop CPU's from either Intel or AMD. Don't get all caught up in the benchmarks, because it is doubtful you'll notice the difference in day to day use. Just enjoy what you have, it really is a nice system.
Yup, it really comes down to pricing and availability now. How nice is that?

Obviously AMD currently has an edge but finding CPUs is a big pain atm and Intel is running solid sales (wuuuuuut?!?) so there it is. It's not like choosing PS5 or Series X and then not being able to play some games because of the decision.
 

shady28

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I wish I had purchased 5600x

I see that it has 20% better single core and almost same multi core performance
Maybe, but the top scores for CPU on 5600X vs top score for 10700 on TimeSpy at 3DMark's site shows the 10700 wins significantly.

This is of course the extra 2 cores kicking in, with fast RAM, and a 2.9 bclk. I'm not sure how the top 3 got 4.94 Ghz, but #4 at 4800 is doable as the BCLK will get you as high as 4.836 Ghz.

Even so, the average 10700 submission is beating the #1 scoring 5600X.


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Average 10700 (my score is for a 10400) :

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Average 5600X :

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And the #1 overall score 10700 beats the #1 overall score 5600x (this is clearly due to OC RAM, 4600Mhz on the 10700, and they probably have the cache running at something similar) :

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MonsterMMORPG

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Maybe, but the top scores for CPU on 5600X vs top score for 10700 on TimeSpy at 3DMark's site shows the 10700 wins significantly.

This is of course the extra 2 cores kicking in, with fast RAM, and a 2.9 bclk. I'm not sure how the top 3 got 4.94 Ghz, but #4 at 4800 is doable as the BCLK will get you as high as 4.836 Ghz.

Even so, the average 10700 submission is beating the #1 scoring 5600X.


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Average 10700 (my score is for a 10400) :

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Average 5600X :

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And the #1 overall score 10700 beats the #1 overall score 5600x (this is clearly due to OC RAM, 4600Mhz on the 10700, and they probably have the cache running at something similar) :

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thanks for reply

So you suggest me to do ram OC?

by the way the guy at another forum was able to oc to 5600x to 4.7 GHZ easily

your comparisons looks like against 3700 MHZ default 5600x

and I checked again and again no BLCK clock changing on the bios :/
 

lobz

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Maybe, but the top scores for CPU on 5600X vs top score for 10700 on TimeSpy at 3DMark's site shows the 10700 wins significantly.

This is of course the extra 2 cores kicking in, with fast RAM, and a 2.9 bclk. I'm not sure how the top 3 got 4.94 Ghz, but #4 at 4800 is doable as the BCLK will get you as high as 4.836 Ghz.

Even so, the average 10700 submission is beating the #1 scoring 5600X.


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Average 10700 (my score is for a 10400) :

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Average 5600X :

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And the #1 overall score 10700 beats the #1 overall score 5600x (this is clearly due to OC RAM, 4600Mhz on the 10700, and they probably have the cache running at something similar) :

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I'm curious about the relevance of bclk OCing 10700 systems when the thread is about a dude who has a B460M mobo without that option. Not that if it had that option I'd recommend bclk OCing... Because I wouldn't.

Anyway we already know you're in love with the Genuine Intel i7-10700 Central Processing Unit ☺
 

shady28

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thanks for reply

So you suggest me to do ram OC?

by the way the guy at another forum was able to oc to 5600x to 4.7 GHZ easily

your comparisons looks like against 3700 MHZ default 5600x

and I checked again and again no BLCK clock changing on the bios :/
I just took the highest scores. On memory Zen 2 / 3 default is 3200. They perform best with DDR4-3733 according to AMD, and the fact that memory speed is in the top scores reflects that. Not all Zens can get to that as it depend on how stable their infinity fabric bus is when overclocked. Many won't do much more than the default 1600 (DDR4-3200).

The top Intel scores seem to be with DDR4-4600. I'm sure the cache is heavily OC'd as well, probably 4400 or higher.

You may be able to use Intel XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility) to change the BCLK. I think throttlestop does this too.

The non-K CPUs will not allow the multiplier to go over 1.03X, the moment it does the CPU will detect it and it will lock up. So how high you can take BCLK depends on how stable your motherboard can maintain clocks. On mine (relatively cheap Asus Prime Plus Z490M) I've gotten it to 1.027, but it would lock every few days. I've been at 1.025 stable since I got it back in June.

Running 32GB (dual rank 2x16GB) DDR4-3200 that puts my RAM at 3280 and northbridge (cache) at 4.1 - 4.2Ghz. Dual rank or 4x single rank helps too.
 

lobz

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I just took the highest scores. On memory Zen 2 / 3 default is 3200. They perform best with DDR4-3733 according to AMD, and the fact that memory speed is in the top scores reflects that. Not all Zens can get to that as it depend on how stable their infinity fabric bus is when overclocked. Many won't do much more than the default 1600 (DDR4-3200).

The top Intel scores seem to be with DDR4-4600. I'm sure the cache is heavily OC'd as well, probably 4400 or higher.

You may be able to use Intel XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility) to change the BCLK. I think throttlestop does this too.

The non-K CPUs will not allow the multiplier to go over 1.03X, the moment it does the CPU will detect it and it will lock up. So how high you can take BCLK depends on how stable your motherboard can maintain clocks. On mine (relatively cheap Asus Prime Plus Z490M) I've gotten it to 1.027, but it would lock every few days. I've been at 1.025 stable since I got it back in June.

Running 32GB (dual rank 2x16GB) DDR4-3200 that puts my RAM at 3280 and northbridge (cache) at 4.1 - 4.2Ghz. Dual rank or 4x single rank helps too.
But how does this help the OP?
 

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