Is Syria the only country that believes that it does not have chemical weapons?

[Sxotty]

Originally posted by: yellowperil
Heard a comment today about Iraq's oil pipelines to the Mediterranean having to pass through Syria and there is resistance about allowing the U.S. access. Can't quote the source but just thought it was interesting.

I think the Bush administration will have a tough time making the case for attacking Syria. Every country has chemical weapons and I think cycling through the 'stopping the terrorists' -> WMD -> regime change argument will provoke even more resistance than with Iraq. JMO

Not to be rude, but they could just route it through another country, and a country would get royalties, the question is how much $$ they make off it. So they get $$ for nothing, and you are saying they don't want it lol, sure, the question is what % they get that is the bone of contention.

 

[yoyofatjo]

Originally posted by: Jimbo

Originally posted by: Thera
It's kinda stupid to deny it then. They should've just said "yeah we got 'em, go f*ck yourself". It would've been worth it just to see the reaction from Rumsfeld. heh.

Like M-1A3s and Bradly Fighting Vehicles of the 4th Mechanized racing across the Syrian border with ZERO political fallout for The US?

I finally agree with you, I would have LOVED to see that as well.

Rummy wouldn't have the balls. Besides, which UN resolution stated Syria wasn't allowed to have WMD? Oh yes, there wasn't one.

The US govt. has a hard enough time trying to prove that Iraq has WMD. If we want proof of Syria harboring WMD or terrorists from the Bush administration, they should amend the Constitution to allow for a third term.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: yoyofatjo

Originally posted by: Jimbo

Originally posted by: Thera
It's kinda stupid to deny it then. They should've just said "yeah we got 'em, go f*ck yourself". It would've been worth it just to see the reaction from Rumsfeld. heh.

Like M-1A3s and Bradly Fighting Vehicles of the 4th Mechanized racing across the Syrian border with ZERO political fallout for The US?

I finally agree with you, I would have LOVED to see that as well.

Rummy wouldn't have the balls. Besides, which UN resolution stated Syria wasn't allowed to have WMD? Oh yes, there wasn't one.

The US govt. has a hard enough time trying to prove that Iraq has WMD. If we want proof of Syria harboring WMD or terrorists from the Bush administration, they should amend the Constitution to allow for a third term.

Absolutely, and even if we did, they are not violating any UN resolutions by having them. As for them not helping us, Powell said that Syria had been very cooperative after 9/11 in the long forgoten true "war against terrorism". Look it up, you'll find that he actually said that. Besides, how could Syria possibly be a threat to the US? Oh wait, Isreal, never mind. And don't start with the Anti-Semetic card, denying that Isreal does not play a role in all this is delusional.

 

[aznparty]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
I agree they need absolute proof of the weapons assistance and the harboring of regime members by GOVT. sources. If this can be proven I'm not sure what our reaction would be, polls suggest at least 50% of Americans would support military action in this case.

I think they could prove there are terrorists there, easily. Could they link them directly to the govt, probably not, but they still are very aware of their presence. If they were to take steps to eliminate them it would be nice, instead they allow the terrorists to act on their policy, especially in regards to Israel.

They have already signaled they would be willing to undergo stringent inspections, I bet Saddam taught them a few tricks in that regard. The US and Israel are going to push them to act on Hezbollah, their reactions to this and in dealing with the remnants of Saddams regime will help determine the final course we will take.

Wasn't this whole thing started to catch Osama bin-Laden and Al-Qaeda? First Bushy says they are in Afghanistan so we have to go after them. Alright, I buy that and supports that action. Now the entire thing with Osama and his buddies have been pushed to the back b/c we want to do a regime change in Iraq? Or was it b/c Osama ran to Iraq? And now they are talking about changing Syia's gov b/c they have links with Hazbollah? Where's Osama and Al-Qaeda? Because the US can't find him then its time to move to another target? Isn't Bushy forgetting he is the one who killed thousands of Americans and not the Syrians? Seems to me its no long about terrorists anymore, its just a nice slogan to put up to get support. Its now about helping Israel rather than helping the US. Sad...

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: aznparty

Originally posted by: Alistar7
I agree they need absolute proof of the weapons assistance and the harboring of regime members by GOVT. sources. If this can be proven I'm not sure what our reaction would be, polls suggest at least 50% of Americans would support military action in this case.

I think they could prove there are terrorists there, easily. Could they link them directly to the govt, probably not, but they still are very aware of their presence. If they were to take steps to eliminate them it would be nice, instead they allow the terrorists to act on their policy, especially in regards to Israel.

They have already signaled they would be willing to undergo stringent inspections, I bet Saddam taught them a few tricks in that regard. The US and Israel are going to push them to act on Hezbollah, their reactions to this and in dealing with the remnants of Saddams regime will help determine the final course we will take.

Wasn't this whole thing started to catch Osama bin-Laden and Al-Qaeda? First Bushy says they are in Afghanistan so we have to go after them. Alright, I buy that and supports that action. Now the entire thing with Osama and his buddies have been pushed to the back b/c we want to do a regime change in Iraq? Or was it b/c Osama ran to Iraq? And now they are talking about changing Syia's gov b/c they have links with Hazbollah? Where's Osama and Al-Qaeda? Seems to me its no long about terrorists anymore, its just a nice slogan to put up to get support. Its now about helping Israel rather than helping the US. Sad...

Exactly, we "liberated" Afghanistan, and now look at it. I've mentioned this before, Afghanistan is in chaos, but who remembers? Hamid Karzai, US puppet extrodinaire cannot leave Kabul, hell cannot leave his palace without a Marine escort. Have we rebuilt Afghanistan? No. It's still run by warlords, and we still havn't found Bin Laden. Diversion tactic: Invade Iraq. Vaguely allude that Iraq was somehow responsible for 9/11, throw the ever important word "terrorism" in there, and you have carte blanche as far as the average American is concered . Iraq may have had WMD's, but there is no way they would or could use them on us, they had 12 years to try if they wanted to. This is our gift to Isreal amd the oil industry thanks to AIPAC, Richard Perle, Dick Chaney etc. I am an American, not an Israeli, nor am I anti-Israel, but 3.5 billion a year in aid is enough help to a country that has no effect on my life, American blood spilt on the battlefield is too much. As for "liberating" the Iraqis, if Afghanistan is any example, they may have been better off under Saddam. Once we realize that we cannot fix Iraq, we will find something else to divert public attention and let the country fall into chaos. Our track record of nation building in the Middle East is a poor one.