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is stargate sg-1 worth getting into?

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Cogman
Up until they started replacing characters left and right, it was the greatest show ever! Once Richard Anderson (Mcgyver) left, the show started a downward spiral to suckyness. (IE seasons 1-8 are great, 9, and 10 need to DIAF)

i disagree.

Beau Bridges as Hank Landry worked better than Richard Anderson.

i couldn't see Jack Oneal as a General, sitting on the sidelines while the team went off into danger... it's not his character, but.. it wasn't believable that a 50-year old would be leading the team into dangerous situations, get captured, tortured, etc, every week, without it taking an effect on him.

They really had no choice to replace him.

They didn't replace him. It was RDA's choice to become less involved in the show so he would have more time to spend with his family.
 
The first few episodes are weak, my least favorite being "the planet of male chauvinist pigs what get schooled by Carter." Grit your teeth and keep going, it gets better for years and years after that one.
 
Originally posted by: JujuFish
They didn't replace him. It was RDA's choice to become less involved in the show so he would have more time to spend with his family.

i know that RDA decided to become less involved, but storywise.. it wasn't becoming 'believable' that Jack was still going on these missions..


 
Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: JujuFish
They didn't replace him. It was RDA's choice to become less involved in the show so he would have more time to spend with his family.

i know that RDA decided to become less involved, but storywise.. it wasn't becoming 'believable' that Jack was still going on these missions..

You're complaining about the believability of a show who's premise is that it sends US solders through an intergalactic wormhole to fight aliens? Somehow I think they can get away with one of the solders being too old for duty. (RDA wasn't great because he was some super hero, he was great because he is hilarious)
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
The first few episodes are weak, my least favorite being "the planet of male chauvinist pigs what get schooled by Carter." Grit your teeth and keep going, it gets better for years and years after that one.

That episode was fucking terrible - I think it was the 3rd episode. I think it was the only 'asian planet' episode lol. And they do get much much better.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Definitely. Don't let the first few episodes scare you off, it gets much better.
QFT. Occasionally they rerun some of the very early episodes and they are quite awful, examples being the Broca Divide, Emancipation and The First Commandment.
It is absolutely worth sitting thru the early garbage as the show vastly, vastly improves.
Its one of the best scifi shows ever, and may be the best.

And you can have fun seeing the goofs as things that occur in the first couple of seasons seem to have been forgotten by the writers in the seasons later on.

 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Definitely. Don't let the first few episodes scare you off, it gets much better.
QFT. Occasionally they rerun some of the very early episodes and they are quite awful, examples being the Broca Divide, Emancipation and The First Commandment.
It is absolutely worth sitting thru the early garbage as the show vastly, vastly improves.
Its one of the best scifi shows ever, and may be the best.

And you can have fun seeing the goofs as things that occur in the first couple of seasons seem to have been forgotten by the writers in the seasons later on.

3 Shots Disintegrate. Great Idea. Now, why aren't these weapons the greatest weapons ever?
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
The first few episodes are weak, my least favorite being "the planet of male chauvinist pigs what get schooled by Carter." Grit your teeth and keep going, it gets better for years and years after that one.

Haha, I hate this episode as well. I think it was a case of "we have to show them that Carter isn't just a super smart girly scientist, she is a soldier!!"

I bought the whole set from amazon last year for $100. Even though I have already watched all the episodes before, I consider that the BEST money I have EVER spent.

Ben Browder did an awesome job with his character, and they really did a good job including him in the team. Only problem was that he will always be compared to RDA, and Jack O'neall (thats with two "L's") is a character that is impossible to beat. Sad to have seen the series cancelled, but it was truly time.

Going back and rewatching it is a shock though. Here people are doing interstellar travel some of the most advanced science known to man. They go to show a video recording of a security camera...and they pop the VHS into the tape player!!! Then I remembered that this was started in the 90's... Really interesting watching the advance of earth technology through the show. From VHS and CRT screens, to XPS laptops and LCD screens.

So in answer to the OP's question, YES get into it, WELL worth it!!!!
 
Originally posted by: oogabooga
does it get better after the first season? I've watched the first 4 episodes of season 1 and I'm really having trouble getting into it.

If you want the full effect of seasons 1-2, watch the DVD's. They are true to the original airings. The episodes shown on hulu are edited as are the ones on Scifi (syfy). Originally the show aired on Showtime and did have 1 nude scene and had several swear words in it.
To bad the up comming Children of the Gods re-release with extra footage and re-edited will be missing the nude scene,which is actually important to the Daniel story.
 
Originally posted by: nanobreath

Ben Browder did an awesome job with his character, and they really did a good job including him in the team. Only problem was that he will always be compared to RDA, and Jack O'neall (thats with two "L's") is a character that is impossible to beat. Sad to have seen the series cancelled, but it was truly time.

So in answer to the OP's question, YES get into it, WELL worth it!!!!


Well I think the comparrison is that Mitchell (Ben Browder) was written to be to much like Jack. Thus the comparrisons. He started off shakey, but made it his own character. I think he really shines in the 2 movies though. I love Ark of Truth when he takes command of the ship:
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: [sits in command chair on board the odyssey] Weapons to maximum.
Major Marks: Sir?
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: It's a joke Marks,
[waves hand motioning forward]
Lt. Colonel Cameron Mitchell: make it go.
 
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
One of these days I plan on picking up the DVDs.

Amazon had the complete series on sale a couple times for cheap not too long back, but I'd wait for (as it looked pretty sweet in hd the last couple of seasons.
 
I dunno, I'm into Season 5 now and it still hasn't completely grown on me. There's just too many episodes that miss IMO. How many freaking times can a team member come back through the gate, do something strange and out of the ordinary, and then have all of SGC get surprised when it turns out to be an alien, virus, symbiote, etc. etc. etc.?? Eventually don't you just shoot the team when their eyebrows twitch and then ask questions later?

Mini spoilers and comments thru 4.5 seasons -

Full frontal nudity in the first episode = awesome. I'm now at 83 straight episodes of being let down by this not being duplicated.

I hate that Apophis has died so many times.

I gave a big middle finger to the TV when Carter's mind was taken over by the Entity and was transferred to a computer.

Episodes 2010 and 2001 with the Aschen were bad ass and well written.

Dr. Daniel Jackson is just a bad ass when it comes to translating stuff.

I found out that I really don't care about Teal'c's family or his past.

The black hole episodes are dumb....maybe I didn't watch the season 4 finale close enough, but how exactly did they launch the star gate from the mothership after the wormhole was initialized? I mean this black hole is supposedly drawing in enough matter from a star to make it unstable...And I'm believing that it calmly drifts out into space after they launch it from the cargo room? Full disclosure: I'm already pissed off at black hole behavior after watching the new Star Trek movie. So I'm not cutting SG any slack.

Carter is too smart to be believable. Some of the things she does completely blows Star Trek out of the water on the absurdity scale of reconfiguring the delector dish to accomplish anything.

I hate the Iris. How do the Tok'ra and anyone else know when the SGC receives the code and takes down the Iris? They always come thru the wormhole within 3 seconds of the iris being removed. I would like to see at least one accident with this.

Did I miss how wormholes are supposedly one way, but they can receive video, radio and communication at SGC?

Love the Asgard and the replicators. Can't wait to see how that story line develops.
 
Keep watching. Moebius parts 1 & 2 (the season finale for season 8 (could be season finale of season 7)) are some of the greatest episodes IMO. There are lots of great episodes later in the series.
 
75% is poor, with poor writing and incredibly corny/ridiculous episodes.

If you want good sci fi- watch
TNG 3-7
DS9 2-7
4400 1-2(3-4 are just ok)
Farscape end of season 1-4
BSG all
Quantum leap if you want light sci fi
Firefly
 

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Originally posted by: Izzo


Mini spoilers and comments thru 4.5 seasons -

The black hole episodes are dumb....maybe I didn't watch the season 4 finale close enough, but how exactly did they launch the star gate from the mothership after the wormhole was initialized?

I hate the Iris. How do the Tok'ra and anyone else know when the SGC receives the code and takes down the Iris? They always come thru the wormhole within 3 seconds of the iris being removed. I would like to see at least one accident with this.

Did I miss how wormholes are supposedly one way, but they can receive video, radio and communication at SGC?.

--- SPOILERS! ---

There was at least one episode where another planet sends several explorers to Earth through the Stargate while the iris is closed. .... thump! 🙁

Black holes affect the stargate but the time dilation and gravitation effects depend on the distance and other factors only Carter would understand.

Wormholes are 2-way. Once the wormhole is open you can step back and forth through either gate.

--- SPOILERS! ---
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Izzo


Mini spoilers and comments thru 4.5 seasons -

The black hole episodes are dumb....maybe I didn't watch the season 4 finale close enough, but how exactly did they launch the star gate from the mothership after the wormhole was initialized?

I hate the Iris. How do the Tok'ra and anyone else know when the SGC receives the code and takes down the Iris? They always come thru the wormhole within 3 seconds of the iris being removed. I would like to see at least one accident with this.

Did I miss how wormholes are supposedly one way, but they can receive video, radio and communication at SGC?.

--- SPOILERS! ---

There was at least one episode where another planet sends several explorers to Earth through the Stargate while the iris is closed. .... thump! 🙁

Black holes affect the stargate but the time dilation and gravitation effects depend on the distance and other factors only Carter would understand.

Wormholes are 2-way. Once the wormhole is open you can step back and forth through either gate.

--- SPOILERS! ---


Yeah, the explorers didn't know about the Iris....I want a mishap for someone that knows about it! BTW, that was a good episode (the one with the rogue group genetically engineering a pure race). Unfortunately, it also demonstrates a very common theme were something is not as it seems originally (which takes most of the suspense out of it since that seems to happen every other episode)

How are wormholes 2-way? That would solve all problems with DHDs and not being able to open the stargate from other planets (which was the plot of several episodes). If they were 2-way, SGC command could always open a wormhole every so often and get their crew back under all circumstances. In fact, I think this was just explained in detail in The Prodigy where the brat from the Air Force wrote a paper assuming wormholes were 2-way which irritated Carter.
 
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Definitely. Don't let the first few episodes scare you off, it gets much better.
QFT. Occasionally they rerun some of the very early episodes and they are quite awful, examples being the Broca Divide, Emancipation and The First Commandment.
It is absolutely worth sitting thru the early garbage as the show vastly, vastly improves.
Its one of the best scifi shows ever, and may be the best.

And you can have fun seeing the goofs as things that occur in the first couple of seasons seem to have been forgotten by the writers in the seasons later on.

3 Shots Disintegrate. Great Idea. Now, why aren't these weapons the greatest weapons ever?

Didn't the show poke fun at that in a much later episode? I seem to recall it was Martin Lloyd, perhaps in episode "200"?
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
Hell yeah. It's the longest running sci-fi series to date (10 seasons). I have every Stargate based DVD barring the original movie (which simply sucked). Definitely worth it.

Dr. Who would disagree
 
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
75% is poor, with poor writing and incredibly corny/ridiculous episodes.

If you want good sci fi- watch
TNG 3-7
DS9 2-7
4400 1-2(3-4 are just ok)
Farscape end of season 1-4
BSG all
Quantum leap if you want light sci fi
Firefly

season 7 of TNG was WEAK. Ahh yes, Dr. Crusher falls for the ghost guy who had sex with her dead grandma with his casper penis.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Definitely. Don't let the first few episodes scare you off, it gets much better.
QFT. Occasionally they rerun some of the very early episodes and they are quite awful, examples being the Broca Divide, Emancipation and The First Commandment.
It is absolutely worth sitting thru the early garbage as the show vastly, vastly improves.
Its one of the best scifi shows ever, and may be the best.

And you can have fun seeing the goofs as things that occur in the first couple of seasons seem to have been forgotten by the writers in the seasons later on.

3 Shots Disintegrate. Great Idea. Now, why aren't these weapons the greatest weapons ever?

Didn't the show poke fun at that in a much later episode? I seem to recall it was Martin Lloyd, perhaps in episode "200"?

And even one shot is wildly inconsistent. We've seen one shot not even knock someone down (O'Neill in the Prodigy), we've seen it incapacitate someone for a minute or two, and we've also seen it remove someone from battle until the scene is over. Awesome thing these Zats are. And how long do you have to wait until you can get hit again without dying? What is the timer on these guys?
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Izzo


Mini spoilers and comments thru 4.5 seasons -

The black hole episodes are dumb....maybe I didn't watch the season 4 finale close enough, but how exactly did they launch the star gate from the mothership after the wormhole was initialized?

I hate the Iris. How do the Tok'ra and anyone else know when the SGC receives the code and takes down the Iris? They always come thru the wormhole within 3 seconds of the iris being removed. I would like to see at least one accident with this.

Did I miss how wormholes are supposedly one way, but they can receive video, radio and communication at SGC?.

--- SPOILERS! ---

There was at least one episode where another planet sends several explorers to Earth through the Stargate while the iris is closed. .... thump! 🙁

Black holes affect the stargate but the time dilation and gravitation effects depend on the distance and other factors only Carter would understand.

Wormholes are 2-way. Once the wormhole is open you can step back and forth through either gate.

--- SPOILERS! ---


It's clearly stated that the gate travel is one way. There are a few inconsistancies with it as in some episodes items can be put in the gate like hands, and staffs, and be removed with no ill effect, but you can not go through a gate that was dialed into. The radio waves going either way is to help with plots.
 
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
75% is poor, with poor writing and incredibly corny/ridiculous episodes.

If you want good sci fi- watch
TNG 3-7
DS9 2-7
4400 1-2(3-4 are just ok)
Farscape end of season 1-4
BSG all
Quantum leap if you want light sci fi
Firefly

Haha, BSG is not good scifi.
 
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