Is SSD really worth the extra money (for a 1TB drive) ??

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xgsound

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I don't know how much better the SSD will be over the Hybrid drive of the Lenovo. Compared to a 7200 RPM HDD sequential reads are similar, all other things are up to 60 times faster for me. The difference is night and day.

If you select a laptop with an optical drive, you can replace it with a CD/HDD caddy to hold a 2nd data HDD.

Jim
 

tential

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1TB is a confirmed buy for me now, question now is, which one ..

I have 840 EVO locked at $350, but maybe I can get 850 EVO in 10 days for $100 more .. But I don't know if it will be worth the slight difference in performance .. Plus, newly released stuff sometimes have terrible issues in them .. The 840 EVO itself is damn expensive for me (I can buy an Xbox One in the same amount!), so I really don't want to go over and above $350 ..

Decisions, decisions .. :/

You're overthinking this decision far too much. As you have been told multiple times in the thread, choices between SSDs you won't personally notice. If you had the 850 EVO for 1 week, then someone swapped in an 840 EVO, you wouldn't notice. This is more for people who are on the cutting edge and need to extract every ounce of performance they can get.

You simply need a good price per GB SSD.

You're simply doing: excel, word, programming work, web browsing

As another user said, you could buy a 240GB SSD for like $60 on sale (slickdeals has them constantly) and get an external pocket sized external drive that's 1TB-2TB and come out cheaper than an 840 EVO 1TB. For convenience sake, you should just get the 840 EVO 1TB (or whatever SSD you can find that's decent that has 1TB).
 

StinkyPinky

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Hell my wife has some ancient old X-25M Intel SSD in her 6 year old laptop and the thing feels snappy and quicker than the brand new dell laptops we have a work (that have HDD's). Having a HDD as a boot drive on a new system is just wrong. SSD's are the best thing to happen to pc's since 3D acceleration.
 

Spungo

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Hell my wife has some ancient old X-25M Intel SSD in her 6 year old laptop and the thing feels snappy and quicker than the brand new dell laptops we have a work (that have HDD's). Having a HDD as a boot drive on a new system is just wrong. SSD's are the best thing to happen to pc's since 3D acceleration.

And learn to love symbolic links:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/symlink-creator/

My computer has tons of symbolic links. I noticed that AMD and Nvidia both keep a copy of every driver installed, so my AMD folder alone is over 3gb. Solution: move the AMD folder to the D: drive then make a symbolic link from C:\AMD to D:\AMD
Steam is linked to the D drive as well. A lot of my installed programs have been moved to the D drive.
 

ahmadka

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Thanks guys for the awesome feedback .. I guess its about time I entered the SSD market ! ... For 840 EVO is on its way to me for $349.99 :)
 

mikeymikec

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I noticed that AMD and Nvidia both keep a copy of every driver installed, so my AMD folder alone is over 3gb. Solution: move the AMD folder to the D drive then make a symbolic link from C:\AMD to D:\AMD

Hopefully you've realised that you don't need to keep either folder structure, and you can move the contents of those folders wherever you like without needing to worry about breaking anything. They're just installation folders.
 

beginner99

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I would get a laptop with a mSata or M2 slot for adding an SSD. My several year old Lenovo X220 has an mSata slot and I added a msata ssd to id and reinstalled windows to it. The hdd it shipped with is used for media files.
This sure is the cheaper solution and you can get a 2 Tb hdd and have enough space for sure.
 

ahmadka

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I would get a laptop with a mSata or M2 slot for adding an SSD. My several year old Lenovo X220 has an mSata slot and I added a msata ssd to id and reinstalled windows to it. The hdd it shipped with is used for media files.
This sure is the cheaper solution and you can get a 2 Tb hdd and have enough space for sure.

I think such ports are relatively rare in laptops, and my options significantly reduce if I limit my search to such laptops. Maybe you can suggest some laptop which is similar to Lenovo Y50, and also has either of these ports, or a second HDD bay ?
 

Spungo

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Hopefully you've realised that you don't need to keep either folder structure, and you can move the contents of those folders wherever you like without needing to worry about breaking anything. They're just installation folders.

I assume they pick those directories for a reason. If the install files were only used for initial installation, AMD and Nvidia would run them in the temp folder like everyone else. Actually, they wouldn't even do that since they were initially run from my downloads folder. AMD actually goes out of the way to make a new folder and copy the installer from Downloads to C:\AMD. It's entirely possible that AMD and Nvidia hire retarded programmers, but I try not to assume that. It's much more likely that these old installers have a purpose that I'm not yet aware of.
 

mikeymikec

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I assume they pick those directories for a reason. If the install files were only used for initial installation, AMD and Nvidia would run them in the temp folder like everyone else. Actually, they wouldn't even do that since they were initially run from my downloads folder. AMD actually goes out of the way to make a new folder and copy the installer from Downloads to C:\AMD. It's entirely possible that AMD and Nvidia hire retarded programmers, but I try not to assume that. It's much more likely that these old installers have a purpose that I'm not yet aware of.

Nope, they just put their install files there. I assume the logic is that people would notice that they're on the root of C drive and so won't just go re-downloading the same files repeatedly over time. If I download a graphics driver that I want to keep, I either extract it to my preferred location for drivers on my PC or I move it from the default locations after the first reboot.

I imagine temp folders of less literate users would be potential enormous dumping grounds of festering rubbish, and potential sources of temp file related install issues, and I could therefore imagine driver developers wanting to avoid such problems (ie. a borked driver install potentially resulting in a BSOD).

If they were dumping required system files on the root of C drive (or their own subfolders on the root of C), I (and probably a lot of other annoyed people) would get on their case because that behaviour inspires a tonne of other idiot developers to do the same thing.
 
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Spungo

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I imagine temp folders of less literate users would be potential enormous dumping grounds of festering rubbish, and potential sources of temp file related install issues, and I could therefore imagine driver developers wanting to avoid such problems (ie. a borked driver install potentially resulting in a BSOD).
Nope. You can have the installer check if a folder exists already, if it does, create a different name folder. Chance of interacting with other temp files would be 0%