I's so fvsking glad I'm leaving PA, maybe they'll learn when there's no doctors left.

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: bleeb
The doctors in PA need to up their standards in medical care. HOW the FSCK do you save a women and her unborn child but FSCK up an easy ankle surgery?? Everyone there must have gone to the Univ. of Bahamas or something because you guys suck at medical care! Also DON'T LEAVE, doctors leaving PA will give Doctors a bad name elsewhere.
Did I really just read that?

 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: SubZeroX
snatchface, which state will u move to? and which states are "better"? If you go to another state, don't u have to deal with license issues?

yeah, which state is safer for doctors? my friend is going to residency, and plans to work at underpriviledged neighborhoods
 

Ronstang

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I feel your pain. It is for this very reason I opted not to go to medical school 12 years ago when I basically could have gotten into any one in the country. I wanted to be a doctor my whole life but the direction the healthcare industry was taking even then turned me against my life's passion. It is a decision that I still struggle with today but it seems like I get reassurance on a more frequent basis that I chose for the best. Lawyers have and continue to destroy evrything in this world, they are the purest of bottomfeeders.
 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
I feel your pain. It is for this very reason I opted not to go to medical school 12 years ago when I basically could have gotten into any one in the country. I wanted to be a doctor my whole life but the direction the healthcare industry was taking even then turned me against my life's passion. It is a decision that I still struggle with today but it seems like I get reassurance on a more frequent basis that I chose for the best. Lawyers have and continue to destroy evrything in this world, they are the purest of bottomfeeders.
What do you do now? You could have gone to Canada to practice ;)
 

Hoober

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: bleeb
The doctors in PA need to up their standards in medical care. HOW the FSCK do you save a women and her unborn child but FSCK up an easy ankle surgery?? Everyone there must have gone to the Univ. of Bahamas or something because you guys suck at medical care! Also DON'T LEAVE, doctors leaving PA will give Doctors a bad name elsewhere.
Did I really just read that?

Yeah... I did, too.
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Spencer278

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Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: bleeb
The doctors in PA need to up their standards in medical care. HOW the FSCK do you save a women and her unborn child but FSCK up an easy ankle surgery?? Everyone there must have gone to the Univ. of Bahamas or something because you guys suck at medical care! Also DON'T LEAVE, doctors leaving PA will give Doctors a bad name elsewhere.
Did I really just read that?

Yeah... I did, too.
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For all we knew the only thing wrong with the women we she went to the hospital was a small cut on here foot. When she came out here "ankle pain" might be that her ankle is all messed up.
 

eakers

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come to canada

we need doctors so bad and we don't sue!

(but you'll make a lot less)
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: SubZeroX
snatchface, which state will u move to? and which states are "better"? If you go to another state, don't u have to deal with license issues?

yeah, which state is safer for doctors? my friend is going to residency, and plans to work at underpriviledged neighborhoods

california, believe it or not, is the best state. they basically started the tort reform movement years ago.

texas will probably catch up quick, what with the cap on non-economic damages that just got written into the constitution (350,000+ words and counting :) )
 

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For all we knew the only thing wrong with the women we she went to the hospital was a small cut on here foot. When she came out here "ankle pain" might be that her ankle is all messed up.
Who gives a sh*t. Without the doctors she would not have made it out alive, and regardless of what happened, it's not worth $20 million. Her ankle was probably not a priority, and with finite resources, things need to be prioritized.
 

mdbound

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California is one of those "better" states, with a cap on the "pain and suffering" award.

The problem with this all is trying to balance appropriate and fair compensation along with minimizing the abuse. Unfortunately, the number of abuses far exceeds the number of appropriate uses, however you are still going to get those heart wrenching cases of a legitimate screw-up. MOST docs are good people and love what they do, and really want to help people; however because of the current system, everyone becomes jaded, including the public. At this point, the public probably thinks that lawyers are money hungry, and that doctors are money hungry AND don't care about the "pain and suffering" of legit people. So, trying to balance these two opposing groups, why not take away $$$ from the people that don't care?

A complete overhall of the system is definitely in order, however none of the proposals seem to solve all of the problems.

In 4 months I graduate.....hopefully after I finish my residency things will be better <Slaps self, and realizes obviously that's not going to happen, and proceeds bitterly to work on Saturday>

MD(bound).
 

Riprorin

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I interviewed for med school at the University of Rochester and at Upstate Medical Center in Syracuse in the early '80s. There was like 3,500 applicants for 100 spots.

Thank goodness I didn't get accepted.
 

Storm

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Hrmm... wierd...

I was flipping through the couple of People I got for my mom... and it had an article about Kelly Rippa's sister getting a $15-20 million settlement. I believe its the same case, her sister was pregnant and she got into a car accident...

I'll see if I can find it...
 

Ranger X

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That's the risk of being a doctor. Malpractice lawsuits are everywhere and undeserving people are getting rich everyday.
 

This is why you pay insane amounts of insurance.

Research before you get into something is usually key.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
$15-$20 mil for ankle pain? WTH!?

stupid jury
Juries in general seem to be pretty gullible, but that's often because lawyers play their emotions like an electric guitar. My mother some decades ago was in an accident(hey, she was a teenager), and the "victim" went to court over ficicious injuries(she was fine of course). What did she claim? That she was having knee problems, and that as a result, she was not able to perform her "wifely duties." And the sad part? She won.:Q Thankfully, the insurance company didn't dock my mother's insurance past the usual for a fender-bender(they realized what the scam was), but it just goes to show you that your peers(whom juries are made of) are often dumbasses.
 

mdbound

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Originally posted by: SampSon
This is why you pay insane amounts of insurance. Research before you get into something is usually key.

That's true, great advice.....12-16 years before you become a doc, make sure you do your research.

<Flame Suit On>
 

The Sauce

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Originally posted by: SubZeroX
snatchface, which state will u move to? and which states are "better"? If you go to another state, don't u have to deal with license issues?

Sorry, I would prefer to not give away any identifiable information here. You have to ask around to find out which states are good and bad. There was a site I saw once on the web that had a color coded map of the country and where they were with regard to tort reform. I can't seem to find it now.
 

The Sauce

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: SubZeroX
snatchface, which state will u move to? and which states are "better"? If you go to another state, don't u have to deal with license issues?

yeah, which state is safer for doctors? my friend is going to residency, and plans to work at underpriviledged neighborhoods

Well, that is idealistic but inner city urban areas are the worst in this regard. Rural areas are much more favorable. Inner-cities are rife with folks on medicare who view healthcare as a right and are looking to score a quick buck any way they can...and have all the free time in the world to pursue litigation. Malpractice rates are several times higher in those areas. I have heard it said that in inner-city east coast areas the average specialist gets sued roughly once every 2 years.
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: Storm
Hrmm... wierd...

I was flipping through the couple of People I got for my mom... and it had an article about Kelly Rippa's sister getting a $15-20 million settlement. I believe its the same case, her sister was pregnant and she got into a car accident...

I'll see if I can find it...
OMG, you're right. It has to be her. Linda Ripa, ankle injury, $15 million award, Philadelphia. Her sister even testified for her during the trial, isn't that sweet.

Ripa's sister wins $15 million in lawsuit
February 4, 2004 (PHILADELPHIA) ? A jury has ordered a Philadelphia surgeon to pay $15 million to the sister of television talk-show host Kelly Ripa for failing to properly repair her broken ankle.

Linda Ripa, 30, was an aspiring model and actress when she was nearly killed in a 1999 car accident that fractured her pelvis, sternum and ankle and endangered her eight-month pregnancy.

She claimed in her lawsuit that a surgeon who operated on the ankle three days after the crash rushed her into surgery unnecessarily without telling her of the risks, then improperly set her broken bones.

Medical experts testifying for Ripa at trial said the operation left her foot permanently deformed, made it difficult to walk and caused nerve damage that gives her constant pain.

A lawyer for the hospital where the surgery was performed called the judgment excessive and said he planned to appeal. Ripa had offered to settle for $2.4 million, but was turned down by the doctor, who said her nerve damage was caused by the crash, not the efforts to heal her.

The jury announced its verdict on Friday.

"I'm going to hazard a guess that the plaintiff, and the plaintiff's lawyers, in their wildest dreams, did not anticipate this case bringing in $15 million," said David Corujo, a lawyer for Frankford Hospital.

Ripa's lawyer, Roberta D. Pichini, said the jury's verdict was just. She said Ripa lost her ability to work as an actress, and, because of her pain, could not accept a $150,000-per-year job to work as her sister's personal assistant.

Kelly Ripa, co-host of "Live With Regis & Kelly" and an actress in the ABC comedy "Hope & Faith," testified by videotape at the two-week trial in Philadelphia's Common Pleas Court.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Originally posted by: Storm
Hrmm... wierd...

I was flipping through the couple of People I got for my mom... and it had an article about Kelly Rippa's sister getting a $15-20 million settlement. I believe its the same case, her sister was pregnant and she got into a car accident...

I'll see if I can find it...
OMG, you're right. It has to be her. Linda Ripa, ankle injury, $15 million award, Philadelphia. Her sister even testified for her during the trial, isn't that sweet.

Ripa's sister wins $15 million in lawsuit
February 4, 2004 (PHILADELPHIA) ? A jury has ordered a Philadelphia surgeon to pay $15 million to the sister of television talk-show host Kelly Ripa for failing to properly repair her broken ankle.

Linda Ripa, 30, was an aspiring model and actress when she was nearly killed in a 1999 car accident that fractured her pelvis, sternum and ankle and endangered her eight-month pregnancy.

She claimed in her lawsuit that a surgeon who operated on the ankle three days after the crash rushed her into surgery unnecessarily without telling her of the risks, then improperly set her broken bones.

Medical experts testifying for Ripa at trial said the operation left her foot permanently deformed, made it difficult to walk and caused nerve damage that gives her constant pain.

A lawyer for the hospital where the surgery was performed called the judgment excessive and said he planned to appeal. Ripa had offered to settle for $2.4 million, but was turned down by the doctor, who said her nerve damage was caused by the crash, not the efforts to heal her.

The jury announced its verdict on Friday.

"I'm going to hazard a guess that the plaintiff, and the plaintiff's lawyers, in their wildest dreams, did not anticipate this case bringing in $15 million," said David Corujo, a lawyer for Frankford Hospital.

Ripa's lawyer, Roberta D. Pichini, said the jury's verdict was just. She said Ripa lost her ability to work as an actress, and, because of her pain, could not accept a $150,000-per-year job to work as her sister's personal assistant.

Kelly Ripa, co-host of "Live With Regis & Kelly" and an actress in the ABC comedy "Hope & Faith," testified by videotape at the two-week trial in Philadelphia's Common Pleas Court.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Hahaha... Oh man, I gotta laugh though...

I bet that doctor feels pretty stupid about now. They offered to settle for 2.4million, and he refused..

Now he's stuck with a 15million dollar bill... :Q
 

AnMig

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A lot of Doctors are trying join goverment or federal hospitals just to avoid the high costs of private insurance.

I love federal TORT system. To be sued they have to ask the goverment permision first and if they dont file a claim within 5 years you are home free.

I blame 2 things for the currently sad state Medical Practice.

1. frivoulous law suits that drive insurance rates.
2. Managed care insurance companies that suck all the money from the patients and doctors.

 

43st

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What process does the medical industry have in place to police bad doctors? I heard a stat once that said 80% of malpractice insurance claims are made against only 10% of practicing doctors. It would seem that if the medical profession actually disallowed piss poor doctors from practicing some of the problems would be fixed.

I guess the answer should ultimately be a two way street. Crack pot doctors should be kicked out on the street and the legal system should prevent lawyers from going to court with "soar ankles" cases.