Is Romney running one of the worst campaigns for president ever?

[MomentsofSanity]

With three months to go I would just like to hear Romney mention something concrete on what he actually intends to do to deliver on his promises. There's been a lot of high level buzz phrases to get people excited but he is woefully short on any specifics. That stretches across pretty much every single topic he has ever spoken on.

 

[emperus]

I think you're campaign is only as good as your candidate. We have an individual running for US president who has offshore bank accounts. That alone should disqualify him. So, the fact that he is even in this race can speak to his campaign and the people in our country who vote.

 

[Bowfinger]

Oh come on, I get exposed to links from Huff Po and Think Progress constantly here in the forums every day, don't pretend the left doesn't have their own spinners, you're pretty solid proof of it.

Lying about me may make you feel better about yourself but it does nothing to improve the accuracy of your claim. You asserted that 86% of media coverage about Romney is negative. You based that claim on the faulty, self-serving analysis of a site that admits their entire purpose is disputing the left. Anyone with intellectual honesty would immediately recognize that MRC is therefore a questionable source, and would seek other corroborating sources before reaching a conclusion and making the assertion you did. You, on the other hand, seem to prefer such obviously biased sources because they tell you what you want to hear. You do not make the effort to confirm your biases through more objective sources. It is a recipe for remaining misinformed.

This is why my first choice when presented with a suspicious story is to try to find sources as close to the origin as possible. For example, when someone posts unusual claims about employment, demographics, etc., my first choice is finding the original data at BLS, the Census Bureau, whatever. Similarly, when you posted a story from the Washington Times (a notoriously biased and inaccurate wing-nut tabloid) about a new study, I asked to see the study itself, not a counterpoint article from Think Progress. Unlike so many of you, I don't need someone else to tell me what to think.

Finally, for the record, I am almost certain I've never posted a link from either HuffPo or Think Progress. In fact, the only times I've ever visited Huffington Post is when someone here posts a link, or rarely when they're a top match on Google. I don't believe I've ever even visited Think Progress. Again, I'm not looking for people to tell me how to think.


TL;DR - Your 86% negative claim was bunk, at least based on the source you cited.

 

[chowderhead]

A Mitt Romney spokesperson offered an unusual counterattack Tuesday to an ad in which a laid-off steelworker blames the presumptive GOP nominee for his family losing health care: If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor’s universal health care law.

“To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Gov. Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Andrea Saul, Romney’s campaign press secretary said during an appearance on Fox News.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns...ss-health-law-to-respond-131456.html#comments

WAT?
If only they lived in a place that had universal healthcare, they would have had healthcare ... kind of like what Obama care tried to do except Romney wants to repeal that but wait ... but.

pathetic.

 

[QuantumPion]

I think you're campaign is only as good as your candidate. We have an individual running for US president who has offshore bank accounts. That alone should disqualify him. So, the fact that he is even in this race can speak to his campaign and the people in our country who vote.

Stop being such a racist. Just because Obama has offshore bank accounts is no reason to disqualify him from the election. I bet you are just using that as a public excuse to not vote for him, the real reason is because Obama's black and you're a racist.

 

[kia75]

Stop being such a racist. Just because Obama has offshore bank accounts is no reason to disqualify him from the election. I bet you are just using that as a public excuse to not vote for him, the real reason is because Obama's black and you're a racist.

Links? Sources? If you're making an accusation you should provide sources.




This link says that for the past 12 years Obama hasn't had an off-shore bank account

 

[kia75]

A Mitt Romney spokesperson offered an unusual counterattack Tuesday to an ad in which a laid-off steelworker blames the presumptive GOP nominee for his family losing health care: If that family had lived in Massachusetts, it would have been covered by the former governor’s universal health care law.

“To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Gov. Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Andrea Saul, Romney’s campaign press secretary said during an appearance on Fox News.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns...ss-health-law-to-respond-131456.html#comments

WAT?
If only they lived in a place that had universal healthcare, they would have had healthcare ... kind of like what Obama care tried to do except Romney wants to repeal that but wait ... but.

pathetic.

/sigh.

This is why Romney is running a bad campaign, the right won't let him run anything else.

Bragging about his accomplishments? Saving lives? Helping people? This should have been a slam dunk rebuttal, but because the GOP is now to the right of Atilla the hun, mentioning that Romney made it so people that were laid off don't just shrivel up and die is a gaffe. speaking about his accomplishments is a gaffe. helping people is a gaffe.

 

[werepossum]

lol wut? Romney is not a good candidate to run against Obama. it's like asking people to pick the white iPhone 4 even though they already have a black iPhone 4.

+1

But - but the white iPhone 4 is new! Different? Well, no, it's not much different. But it's new!

 

[Jhhnn]

Romney has a lot of problems, not the least of which is the delusional & radicalized Repub base.

That radicalization has been intentional on the part of their leadership, and worked when the movement was from centrist to more conservative positions, but they've arrived at the point where further movement to the right disconnects them from the mainstream.

Traditionally, Repubs gloss that over with wedge issues, which is really all the Romney campaign has to work with. He has to pander to the base for turnout, but find a way to etch a sketch his pitch to moderates to win. That's increasingly difficult because of the extreme radicalization of the base.

Romney's record as governor of Massachusetts shows him to be a center-right moderate on social issues, but he can't claim that & hold the base in thrall, and it does nothing to distinguish him from Obama. OTOH, he can't disown it, either.

His trickledown economic pitch falls on deaf ears, rightfully so, and his intent to cut taxes at the top while cutting middle & working class perks can't withstand even the sniff test, and runs counter to the sentiments of the voting public.

His foray into statesmanship was a gaffe ridden exercise in arrogance & insensitivity, rightfully the subject of heavy criticism.

That's all aside from issues wrt his tax returns, offshore accounts & his wealth acquisition as a star of the lootocracy.

The remarkable thing about it all is that he'll get over 40% of the popular vote, just because there's an (R) next to his name. Nobody has really offered any reasons to vote for Romney, other than him being not-Obama. I doubt that will be enough.

 

[DominionSeraph]

He can't. It's what he does, what he's always done. It's who he is and always has been. It's pathological. It's called being a psychopath.

As long as there are pigeons, there will be sharpies to prey upon them.

As someone who was unfortunate enough to grow up with a psychopath, I have to take issue with you using the term to describe Romney. I'd say Romney has just completely defined "politician" as "people pleaser" in his head: he will try to tell the populace whatever it wants to hear in order to get elected and then, once elected, he would try his best to be whatever the populace wants. Basically I think he's just taken "representing your constituents" (like Schwarzenegger going ahead and voting for liberal policies he knew his constituents solidly believed in) to an absurd extreme and just doesn't see the problem with it because it's been effective throughout his career.

A psychopath wouldn't be as clumsy as Romney. Romney says something stupid whenever he innocently tries to tell the truth. A psychopath never does anything innocently and so avoids such problems. There is never the impulse to connect with someone by telling them the truth because a psychopath truly has zero respect for anyone else and so will never even think of giving them the kindness of a simple, true answer.

Basically, "I have some friends who are NASCAR team owners," (LOL) is not the mark of someone whose first impulse is always to lie.


Romney may be willing to dance around a lot but I don't think that it's due to a complete lack of respect for anyone with absolute viciousness lying beneath. I think he's just kind of a cute flip-flopper -- problem being that you can't tell what he really believes and so who the hell knows what you're really voting for?

 

[emperus]

Stop being such a racist. Just because Obama has offshore bank accounts is no reason to disqualify him from the election. I bet you are just using that as a public excuse to not vote for him, the real reason is because Obama's black and you're a racist.

Huh? Did I miss something?

 

[Pr0d1gy]

/sigh.

This is why Romney is running a bad campaign, the right won't let him run anything else.

Bragging about his accomplishments? Saving lives? Helping people? This should have been a slam dunk rebuttal, but because the GOP is now to the right of Atilla the hun, mentioning that Romney made it so people that were laid off don't just shrivel up and die is a gaffe. speaking about his accomplishments is a gaffe. helping people is a gaffe.

God forbid we help people who work, fucking leeches.

 

[trenchfoot]

Poor Romney; he needs to pander to the fundie Christian right with him being a Mormon.

Then he needs to pander to the far right whackjob base with him being a moderate.

Then he needs to pander to the independents with him posturing himself as a far right nutjob to keep them happy.

Then he needs to pander to the every day working stiff with him being from the aristocratic elite.

Then he needs to release his tax documents when he obviously has no intention to.

What he really ought to do is play the hapless victim and pander to the softhearted nitwits out there. He might have a better chance of getting elected that way. Well, on second thought, who'd cast a sympathy vote for a guy that is a victim of being a multi-gazillionaire that doesn't have to work another day in his life?

Therefore, it is my unqualified opinion that this guy Romney? He's screwed every which way he turns.

But the folks that are really and truly screwed are the folks who have to vote for him out of ideological reflex. For them it's like having to choose between eating something vile and putrid or starving to death.

 

[DominionSeraph]

But the folks that are really and truly screwed are the folks who have to vote for him out of ideological reflex. For them it's like having to choose between eating something vile and putrid or starving to death.

You've underestimated their ability to delude themselves. They just shut down their brains even further to convince themselves that he's their knight in shining armor; the candidate they've always wanted.

 

[trenchfoot]

You've underestimated their ability to delude themselves. They just shut down their brains even further to convince themselves that he's their knight in shining armor; the candidate they've always wanted.

LOL, sort'a brings new meaning to the phrase "putting lipstick on a pig".

 

[WhipperSnapper]

It doesn't matter how bad his campaign is; he could be up on stage with a brown paper bag on his head and he'd still get in the low 40% just by virtue of being Republican.

Part of Romney's problem is that by running on the Republican ticket he's necessarily associated with free market extremists and nutjobs such as Paul Ryan, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Bachman ("The Moron"), and Sarah Palin ("The Dingbat").

A vote for Romney is not merely a vote for Romney, but also for the high-profile free market extremists and religious wackjobs in the Republican Party.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

That's what I'm saying; Obama is loaded as well, yet Romney refuses to counter-attack OR better yet go after Obama on about 8 different issues he could leverage. Instead he just sits back, let's Obama attack him, tries to defend himself, and then just sits there waiting for the next attack.

As far as I know, Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth ala Bush and Romney. Instead, he had to work his ass off starting from humble beginnings (becoming president of the Harvard Law Review, which is no small feat). Obama might be a millionaire, but he had to work his ass off for it. In contrast, Romney and Bush were born into it.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

McCain's was still worse. Dole a little better.

McCain was doomed regardless of what he said or did because he had 8 years of George W. Bush hanging over his head. Under the leadership of Bush and the Republicans, the nation's economic health deteriorated precipitously.