That's a bit of a false equivalence. It would be a better example if there was some completely new (but incompatible wireless standard) that has better performance or uses a fraction of the power.
Actually your counterpoint makes no sense in context. The headphone jack hasn't been replaced with anything completely new, or better performing, and it requires more power, not less. Not sure where you were going with that, but you made MY point! Just changing something without improving it is not a help to the consumer. You basically answered your own questions I was responding to in the first place!
Or you buy a WiFi dongle that plugs in via USB-C (or whatever connector) and your device can use WiFi again.
LOL! Sorry, just had to laugh at that point. You guys and your dongles! On a phone! LOL!
No- most people would never accept anything as absurd as using a stupid wifi dongle on their phone to replace something the previous generation of phones already had and didn't need to be messed with.
The whole point was to illustrate how just because a company may do something stupid with a device -remove features that aren't obsolete and don't need to be removed, only to be "replaced" by soemthing we already had (!!) here are those of us who are going to call that what it is: stupid. greedy. unnecessary. backward.
I don't care about the financials, but I doubt they save that much money by dropping the headphone jack as there aren't licensing costs and its easy to make and you can probably get the components from dozens of manufacturers.
Again, not sure how you're doing anything but making points IN FAVOR of NOT removing the headphone jack. Were you thinking otherwise?
In case you missed it, the talk of this being greedy on Apple's part- is not anything absurd like they save money on the jack itself. It's exactly the opposite. Because its a standard Apple can't charge anyone for, they don't make money using it. So they remove it and gouge money by forcing the use of a standard they can make money off of (Bluetooth headphones, earbuds - lightning headphones if such have to be licensed by others, and of course stupid dongles. There's mountains of money to be made. None of it benefits the consumer one iota though, because all it is is purposefully removing a viable alternative that already exists and is in fact, standard.
I just don't give a gnat's fart about having a headphone jack because it's so far down the list of concerns that I can't care compared to dozens of other considerations that go into buying a device.
Well good for you, but no one else buys a device based on what YOU need. Despite Apple's bullshit, the vast majority of the public did NOT indicate that they no longer use wired headphones.
Implying that everyone who thinks not buying a device due to a lack of headphone jack is silly is some kind of corporate whore is just being intellectually dishonest.
It's not that, it just parroting the silly excuses for it put forward by these large companies that is a bit being a corporate suck-up. There's really no compelling reason this early in the game to remove wired headphone jacks as the technology to replace it isn't actually a better replacement, and as I've pointed out before, bluetooth exists right now, today, this very minute IN ADDITION to the wired headphone jack on MOST devices. Most audio devices that exist in the world today have a headphone jack. Desktop speakers. Stereo systems. Tablets. Laptops. Phones. Pro audio gear. Amps, Cameras- the list goes on and on and on.
Trying to create a separate standard just for phones, that will eventually just make a big stupid mess when reaching for a pair of headphones (oh do I need USB-C ones for this, or lighting, or some stupid combo of dongles, etc..) isn't improving anything. I'm gonna laugh my ass off eventually when I see someone with their dumb phone-headphones have to use a dongle to get back to *drumroll* the STANDARD audio jack on just about *everything!* else in the known audio universe! I wonder if some who thought that was a great idea will think to themselves, "Gee, was this trip really necessary?"
There's always going to be someone who insists that a feature needs to stick around well after it should be put out to pasture.In three years your argument will look as silly as the people who lamented about computers ditching floppy disk drives because a lot of people were still using them.
Talk about a silly comparison. As I said, just about EVERYTHING in the audio universe uses the standard headphone jack. Still. To this day. Granted, it can either be 1/4 or 1/8- but there's a STANDARD that's in use by most everything audio related when it comes to headphones. Many, many, many more people than ever touched a floppy drive use the same headphones with a phone- a tablet, their stereo, their roku remote, MP3 players, car stereos, every type of audio equipment imaginable. There's no USB-C-to-lightning-to-stupid dongle setup that's better/cheaper/easier/more power efficient/ less hassle that will replace all of this in the near future.
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