Is reality overrated?

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You should have taken the blue pill...

There is no reality; there is only perception.
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Yeah, there's only perception. But who can perceive. Looks to me like what most call perception is just the echo of the past, the associations things produce, thinking about what's going on. Wouldn?t perception be something you can't describe and experience, a silent imaging of what is, what is me and what the world indistinguishable?

Oh, you can describe perception all right. This is red and sharp, that is blue and soft; but what is the guarantee that blue is blue for everyone? Are we all taking our own individual trip along the tau axis of the fourth dimension, or is "reality" more a group hallucination?

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You should have taken the blue pill...

There is no reality; there is only perception.
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Yeah, there's only perception. But who can perceive. Looks to me like what most call perception is just the echo of the past, the associations things produce, thinking about what's going on. Wouldn?t perception be something you can't describe and experience, a silent imaging of what is, what is me and what the world indistinguishable?

Oh, you can describe perception all right. This is red and sharp, that is blue and soft; but what is the guarantee that blue is blue for everyone? Are we all taking our own individual trip along the tau axis of the fourth dimension, or is "reality" more a group hallucination?

What is sharp? To someone who cannot feel they cannot precieve what "sharp" is. Ho can you describe color to a blind person? Or sound to the deaf? Or taste to someone without a toung? What I'm attempting to get at is how can you precieve without having first come to your on conclusions first? And that is reality.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: illusion88
What is sharp? To someone who cannot feel they cannot precieve what "sharp" is. Ho can you describe color to a blind person? Or sound to the deaf? Or taste to someone without a toung? What I'm attempting to get at is how can you perceive without having first come to your on conclusions first? And that is reality.

Sharp is the word associated with a feeling of acuteness in objects. It is important to have the distinction of how things really are(they just are) with what we perceive(what most think is their reality). Language does so poor a job of expressing existence.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You should have taken the blue pill...

There is no reality; there is only perception.
--------------------------------
Yeah, there's only perception. But who can perceive. Looks to me like what most call perception is just the echo of the past, the associations things produce, thinking about what's going on. Wouldn?t perception be something you can't describe and experience, a silent imaging of what is, what is me and what the world indistinguishable?

Oh, you can describe perception all right. This is red and sharp, that is blue and soft; but what is the guarantee that blue is blue for everyone? Are we all taking our own individual trip along the tau axis of the fourth dimension, or is "reality" more a group hallucination?

What is sharp? To someone who cannot feel they cannot precieve what "sharp" is. Ho can you describe color to a blind person? Or sound to the deaf? Or taste to someone without a toung? What I'm attempting to get at is how can you precieve without having first come to your on conclusions first? And that is reality.

Humans share experiences, sensations, feelings via commonly agreed upon sounds, expressions, and symbols that we call language. This allows us to come to universal agreement upon what "yellow" is, for example. Someone who has never had the sense of sight can learn the terminology representing "yellow", and while that person may have no personal frame of reference, it is still possible to use that terminology in conversation.

 

[tweakmm]

Right on Astaroth