Is Obama for offshore drilling or not??

[dammitgibs]

So during the SOTU when talking about new energies he said:

"It means making tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development. It means continued investment in advanced biofuels and clean coal technologies."

But during campaigning he repeatedly bashed Bush and McCain for their pro-offshore drilling stance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss

So what's the deal?

 

[Hacp]

We need offshore drilling as well as shale drilling. Unless we milk every single ounce of oil, gas, and coal out of our country, we'll be sucking the Saudi's dicks.

 

[Fear No Evil]

All talk, no action..

 

[boomerang]

He's still in campaign mode.

 

[ccbadd]

It sound a little like when he said his administration would start implementing tort reform via executive order, has anyone seen it????? Don't listen to the liar!

 

[RedCOMET]

Lets drill ahead... I could use the job security and bonus money that comes with it.

 

[Greenman]

So during the SOTU when talking about new energies he said:


But during campaigning he repeatedly bashed Bush and McCain for their pro-offshore drilling stance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss

So what's the deal?

Obviously he's against it except when he's for it. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[Throckmorton]

Offshore drilling is a red herring. We have plenty offshore drilling, and we have nothing to gain by increasing it now. We're better off saving the oil for the future when oil prices skyrocket. Remember, for every barrel of oil we drill here, OPEC gets to keep an extra barrel in the ground. They'll be happy to sell it to us for $400 in a decade. I'm saying this as someone who works in the oil industry.

Too bad Republicans have convinced a large, gullible portion of the public that the more we drill the better off we are. Rest assured, they don't have our best interests at heart-- it's pure politics, plus some gifts to their buddies at the tops of those skyscrapers here in Houston. I'd much rather have Obama pay lip service to "drill baby drill" to placate the idiots, and not do it.

 

[LegendKiller]

Offshore drilling is a red herring. We have plenty offshore drilling, and we have nothing to gain by increasing it now. We're better off saving the oil for the future when oil prices skyrocket. I'm saying this as someone who works in the oil industry.

Exactly. I'm not sure why we want to use all of our resources now to save a few bucks. Why not let all of the other suckers sell theirs low, we buy it low and preserve our own resources, then when they run out, everybody comes to us. Meanwhile, we'll have still built the world's most educated people, strongest military, strongest economy, and have the most natural resources in the world.

It's called "strategy" people, think about it for a few minutes.

 

[Lemon law]

Bullshit, at the end of the day does it matter? There are a lot of dimensions in the problem.

1. Offshore drilling off the USA coast can help a tiny bit, but it will never meet our oil needs.

2. As soon as we grant a oil lease to a company, there is a 99% percent probability that they will simply sit on the lease and never develop it. Can we spell stupid there.
Great for the oil company but its does nothing to meet our near term oil needs.

 

[Bitek]

We need offshore drilling as well as shale drilling. Unless we milk every single ounce of oil, gas, and coal out of our country, we'll be sucking the Saudi's dicks.

YES! Bleed it, bleed the Earth's balls dry until nothing is left! Feed the beast lest we all turn gay and want to get married and have fashionable weddings in our pick of five states!


God forbid we leave some behind for our children and future generations and make serious investments now in alt E and suffer some minor and temporary inconveniences. But at least our resource-impoverished children will take comfort in that we were not a bunch of cum gobbling pipe smokers, or at least not in that way.

 

[daniel49]

So during the SOTU when talking about new energies he said:


But during campaigning he repeatedly bashed Bush and McCain for their pro-offshore drilling stance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss

So what's the deal?

Depends on the day and who he is speaking too./end

 

[Hacp]

YES! Bleed it, bleed it dry until nothing is left! Feed the beast lest we all turn gay and want to get married and have fashionable weddings in our pick of five states!


God forbid we leave some behind for our children and future generations and make serious investments now in alt E and suffer some minor and temporary inconveniences. But at least our resource-impoverished children will take comfort in that we were not a bunch of cum gobbling pipe smokers, or at least not in that way.

They can use nuclear fuel.

 

[Carmen813]

How about instead of wasting billions to drill offshore we use that money to fix the north east power grid...or the entire countries? That will save us way more energy in the long term.

 

[RedCOMET]

Offshore drilling is a red herring. We have plenty offshore drilling, and we have nothing to gain by increasing it now. We're better off saving the oil for the future when oil prices skyrocket. Remember, for every barrel of oil we drill here, OPEC gets to keep an extra barrel in the ground. They'll be happy to sell it to us for $400 in a decade. I'm saying this as someone who works in the oil industry.

Well, in order to prepare for the future, I think we need to get the subsea / offshore infrastructure in place so that oil and natural gas can be produced as needed. It take more than one well to be able to start producing a field. Heck it takes more than one well to determine the type of pruduction methodology to employ or if a field is even viable to produce.

How about instead of wasting billions to drill offshore we use that money to fix the north east power grid...or the entire countries?

Who is wasting billions of dollars? Certianly not the Federal govt. Its the exploration and production bussines units in the Super majors / majors that are using their own money to find oil / natural gas and to build the infrastructure to deliver it to the refineries. Last i heard, the federal government doesn't build production platforms, drill ships, etc. Some fields take over a billion dollars and 6-8 years from time of initial discovery to being able to produce oil and natural gas. Sometimes longer.

Also, shouldn't the energy companies make their distrobution infrastructure more robust than it is now? I'm sure the fed should help them, but its not all the govt fault that its not down. The govt only regulates the energey sector last i heard ( well maybe except for the TVA)

But some of this don't mean damn if our refinery capacity can't handle the load. Have we address that issue, too? I dont' think so.

I think its a little more complex than what it is being made out to be.

Also, I feel that an increased in offshore drilling might increase jobs. Heck an increase in On Land drilling will create jobs. Last year, I've met a many folks who were laid off becuase of the reduction of operating land rigs.

 

[Bitek]

They can use nuclear fuel.

Oh dear, you don't know do you?


I'll give you a hint, the answer is not plutonium.

The question is, where do we get almost all of our solvents and raw organic chemicals that are used in every major manufacturing industry, from pharmaceuticals to plastics to paint from?

 

[JSt0rm]

YES! Bleed it, bleed the Earth's balls dry until nothing is left! Feed the beast lest we all turn gay and want to get married and have fashionable weddings in our pick of five states!


God forbid we leave some behind for our children and future generations and make serious investments now in alt E and suffer some minor and temporary inconveniences. But at least our resource-impoverished children will take comfort in that we were not a bunch of cum gobbling pipe smokers, or at least not in that way.

They can use nuclear fuel.

Wow Hacp you are smart. Have you thought of informing the new world order about your idea?

 

[Hacp]

Oh dear, you don't know do you?


I'll give you a hint, the answer is not plutonium.

The question is, where do we get almost all of our solvents and raw organic chemicals that are used in every major manufacturing industry, from pharmaceuticals to plastics to paint from?

In the end, plastics are just carbon and hydrogen. We have plenty of both in the world.

 

[Vic]

"Drill, baby, drill!"

 

[werepossum]

I'll give Obama a chance to prove he is not lying out his ass about nuclear power, but only an idiot would believe he's for any sort of drilling. The left concedes a need only for enough petroleum to keep its own jets and limos fueled; the rest of us are just killing the planet.

The irony is that by the time we do expand our offshore drilling, our energy companies will be foreign-owned, so the considerable profits will flow to foreign countries. This too will please the left, since they consider all countries better than the USA.