is NASCAR a sport? *POLL INCLUDED*

[purbeast0]

i personally do not like NASCAR, but I was wondering if you all consider it a sport or not.

some people are saying that sports require physical activity, where the actual driver of NASCAR cars do no physical activity. but at the same time, it definitely doesn't seem like a game ...

so what do you think? and whats your reasoning?

EDIT: oh yea, i voted for yes.

 

[Fausto]

It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

 

[Feldenak]

If golf and bowling are considered sports then driving a car 4 inches off another car's bumper at 130+ MPH is definately a sport.

 

[Xionide]

Who gives a sh!t. Maybe if there was an option for retarded I would vote for it. "Look at me I am a hick and I can go in circles WEEEE!" *vomits*.

 

[Fausto]

I love how any NASCAR thread = instant flamewar. 😛

 

[Gurck]

I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

If thats what makes a sport masterbating should be in the olympics.

 

[purbeast0]

and fyi, i voted yes.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

Of course not, I'm just saying that strength/conditioning aren't the limiting factors as they would be in other races (ie- a marathon).

That said, there's really no point to this debate as it just becomes a hair-splitting contest. <shrug>

 

[iamme]

well, fat people can't fit behind the wheel of a standard car, so i guess drivers have to remain relatively thin.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

Of course not, I'm just saying that strength/conditioning aren't the limiting factors as they would be in other races (ie- a marathon).

That said, there's really no point to this debate as it just becomes a hair-splitting contest. <shrug>

but hey, what would ATOT be without these 😀

 

[Gurck]

Physical conditioning isn't a determining factor in a lot of sports. Baseball, golf and bowling, to name a few...

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

Of course not, I'm just saying that strength/conditioning aren't the limiting factors as they would be in other races (ie- a marathon).

That said, there's really no point to this debate as it just becomes a hair-splitting contest. <shrug>

but hey, what would ATOT be without these 😀

Well yeah, but this has been done for almost any sport. They're all so different, you just can't compare apples and apples. It's like that fscking ESPN "What is the toughest sport" article....total crap.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

Not compared to Formula One. I'd bet that half of the NASCAR drivers couldn't even fit in a modern Formula One car let alone be competetive in it.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

Not compared to Formula One. I'd bet that half of the NASCAR drivers couldn't even fit in a modern Formula One car let alone be competetive in it.

Anyone have some in-car heartrate data for the NASCAR guys? I know they sweat like pigs as the cars get incredibly hot, but what else?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

Not compared to Formula One. I'd bet that half of the NASCAR drivers couldn't even fit in a modern Formula One car let alone be competetive in it.

Anyone have some in-car heartrate data for the NASCAR guys? I know they sweat like pigs as the cars get incredibly hot, but what else?

while that is probably true, sweating has NOTHING to do with physical conditioning. no matter who you are, you can sweat. i guess getting used to all the sweat though is where the conditioning might come in. but i wouldn't really call that physical conditioning, more mental conditioning.

 

[bluehorizon]

NASCAR...

Non
Athletic
Sport
Created
Around
Rednecks

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

Not compared to Formula One. I'd bet that half of the NASCAR drivers couldn't even fit in a modern Formula One car let alone be competetive in it.

Anyone have some in-car heartrate data for the NASCAR guys? I know they sweat like pigs as the cars get incredibly hot, but what else?

Not sure. In F1 though it is not uncommon for a driver to lose 5-6 lbs during one race. Physically, they endure almost 4gs under braking and cornering. It requires an incredible amount of conditioning to compete in F1.

 

[spidey07]

Absolutely it is a sport.

Those guys work their butts off in the car - arms, strength, endurance, G forces.

While its my least favorite form of racing and boring IMHO, its still a sport.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

Of course not, I'm just saying that strength/conditioning aren't the limiting factors as they would be in other races (ie- a marathon).

That said, there's really no point to this debate as it just becomes a hair-splitting contest. <shrug>

So any game, where equipment can limit the decision, it's not a sport?
What about:

Football. Field a team in peewee pads vs. pro pads. Take a hit in the peewee pads, and see if you still want to play.
Archery. Use a simple wooden bow vs. balanced composite bow.
Hockey(should it actually be played). All sorts of equipment variations here, and they are allowed in the current game, where the above examples aren't. Wooden vs. composite sticks, goalie pad variations, visor or no, etc. Any one could limit the decision on the game.

Anyways, I think you nailed it on the head, it's just a hair splitting contest, as I'm showing...

So the better question is, why are people so possesive over what's a sport and what isn't, since they are usually splitting hairs???

 

[mchammer187]

is it a sport?
debatable


does it suck?
yes! 😛

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: Fausto
It's a sport in the sense that it's a competition, but certainly not a sport where your physical conditioning determines the outcome.

So someone with no endurance (heat+time-water), no eye-hand coordination, and no timing could compete with success? I doubt it.

Of course not, I'm just saying that strength/conditioning aren't the limiting factors as they would be in other races (ie- a marathon).

That said, there's really no point to this debate as it just becomes a hair-splitting contest. <shrug>

So any game, where equipment can limit the decision, it's not a sport?
What about:

Football. Field a team in peewee pads vs. pro pads. Take a hit in the peewee pads, and see if you still want to play.
Archery. Use a simple wooden bow vs. balanced composite bow.
Hockey(should it actually be played). All sorts of equipment variations here, and they are allowed in the current game, where the above examples aren't. Wooden vs. composite sticks, goalie pad variations, visor or no, etc. Any one could limit the decision on the game.

Anyways, I think you nailed it on the head, it's just a hair splitting contest, as I'm showing...

I guess my point was that it's not the driver's conditioning that limits the top speed of the car. His skill, certainly, but he's not pedaling it. 😉

So the better question is, why are people so possesive over what's a sport and what isn't, since they are usually splitting hairs???

Dunno. The same argument crops up with regard to golf on a pretty regular basis as well.

 

[IamElectro]

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it either, but sure it's a sport - and physical condition definitely is important.

My thoughts as well.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

It is very physically demanding. Compared to F1 racers they might not be as physically demanding at a given time, but thier races last three times as long. I think the shortest NASCAR (Nextel Cup) race is 250 miles. Longest is 600. 135 miles is standard for F1. Compared to other sports, like Golf, it's very physically demanding. Most NASCAR teams have thier drivers do full excersize routines with the whole weightroom and cardio deal just like any other sport. After three to four hours of keeping a car right on it's edge without going over they are both physically and mentally drained.

Consider baseball, noone tries to debate whether it's a sport or not. *devil's advocate* But unless you're a pitcher or catcher, you're not doing much most of the time. Half the time you're sitting on a bench. All a baseball player does is hit a ball with a stick and then run to a few spots. It's not hard. Anyone can hit a ball with a stick. *end devil's advocate*