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Is my processor really running almost 90C???

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TBay

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I'm glad you were able to fix it, OP. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks man! I'm still pretty shocked that the thing could put up with that!

I know that the day I realized the temp, it was running in that range for at least 4 hours! The plastic that holds the heatsink to the chip even felt fatigued due to the high temps it was at! I could have almost cooked an egg on that thing!

I've always wanted to add water-cooling, so I might actually do that now. I've been running some different simulations to see what type of setup (water flow rate, radiator size, reservoir size, fan flow rate) would work best, but I'm not sure if my power supply could put up with the load...

Thanks again for all the help! You guys saved me a processor!!!
 

Idontcare

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62 C is likely Tcase and not what he was measuring at 90

Actually it is the max operating temp of the CPU, not max Tcase.

By limiting the maximum temperature to a lower value such as 62C, AMD accomplishes two things - (1) increases the minimum expected operating lifetime of the CPU, and (2) increases the maximum stable clockspeed of the CPU.

If AMD were to spec the CPU as being able to operate at 72C versus 62C, then the lifetime of the device would be roughly 1/2 that of the chip spec'ed for a max temp of 62C in addition to having a lower stable clockspeed for a given operating voltage (power-consumption rises with temperature, even if clockspeed and voltage remains the same).
 

Ferzerp

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Actually it is the max operating temp of the CPU, not max Tcase.

By limiting the maximum temperature to a lower value such as 62C, AMD accomplishes two things - (1) increases the minimum expected operating lifetime of the CPU, and (2) increases the maximum stable clockspeed of the CPU.

If AMD were to spec the CPU as being able to operate at 72C versus 62C, then the lifetime of the device would be roughly 1/2 that of the chip spec'ed for a max temp of 62C in addition to having a lower stable clockspeed for a given operating voltage (power-consumption rises with temperature, even if clockspeed and voltage remains the same).

No, I saw that, but that's pretty vague. 62 degrees where? It doesn't bother saying.

Here's an example on the intel side:

http://ark.intel.com/products/41447...ocessor-(8M-Cache-2_80-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

They're pretty open with which temperature metric they're talking about.
 

Idontcare

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No, I saw that, but that's pretty vague. 62 degrees where? It doesn't bother saying.

Here's an example on the intel side:

http://ark.intel.com/products/41447...ocessor-(8M-Cache-2_80-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

They're pretty open with which temperature metric they're talking about.

Its only "vague" because you are approaching it with an expectation of it being as complicated an affair as Intel has made theirs.

If you forget all you know about Intel's multiple different "temperatures of concern" between TCase and TJmax, what do would you expect AMD's specification to be referencing given the fact that they have an on-die thermal probe built into every CPU?