Is Michael Flynn Q?

[Amol S.]

I mentioned Jewish space lasers, I was called an anti-Semite.

It odd that out in the real world I'm the same guy I am on the web, and I get along with pretty much everyone. But here in the pretend world I piss off the far left and the far right. That actually makes me smile.

When did you post about these so called lasers? I only came back on here like last week.

 

[Greenman]

When did you post about these so called lasers? I only came back on here like last week.

Wasn't here. Another place I visit that has a section devoted to lunacy.

 

[Amused]

That's apparently because you don't know how to interpret what he says. I suffer from the same lack of understanding. The faithful assure me that his every prediction has been correct.
The same fellows are also convinced the Maui fire was caused by orbital laser strikes.

And curiously, the same people that believe the Hawaii fires were orbital lasers are also flat earthers and claim NASA fakes all their stuff.

You cannot make this shit up. This is the GOP base.

 

[Greenman]

And curiously, the same people that believe the Hawaii fires were orbital lasers are also flat earthers and claim NASA fakes all their stuff.

You cannot make this shit up. This is the GOP base.

The fellows I chat with think the flat earth idea is stupid.

 

[Amused]

The fellows I chat with think the flat earth idea is stupid.

Ask them if the Apollo missions were real.

 

[Greenman]

Ask them if the Apollo missions were real.

Some they think the moon landings were faked, for reasons that make no sense to me.

 

[HomerJS]

I mentioned Jewish space lasers, I was called an anti-Semite.

It odd that out in the real world I'm the same guy I am on the web, and I get along with pretty much everyone. But here in the pretend world I piss off the far left and the far right. That actually makes me smile.

Speaking for someone who is center-left I get pissed off at anyone spouting lies and unsubstantiated conspiracies.

 

[Pohemi]

5yr old article but points out a few juicy bits:

Who is behind the Qanon conspiracy? We've traced it to three people

Pushing the theory on to bigger platforms proved to be the key to Qanon’s spread — and the originators’ financial gain.

www.nbcnews.com

Though it's difficult if not impossible to verify at this point- I was led to believe that Qanon was started as a joke on 4chan, and went viral when a few idiots latched onto it as hard facts. The originators and co-conspirators that joined them realized there was money to be made off of it, and were in it for the grift, not because they believed the bullshit.

Doesn't sound any crazier than the ideas of Qanon itself, but again...nothing to prove it. Just purely speculation, but it seems logical to me. Hard to say whether it was idiots leading idiots, or idiots joining idiots.

 

[Greenman]

Speaking for someone who is center-left I get pissed off at anyone spouting lies and unsubstantiated conspiracies.

I gave up getting angry over stupidity decades ago. I sometimes call it out, but getting angry over it is a waste of energy. Stupid people don't care and can't understand because they're stupid. You might as well get angry at your dog because you can't teach him to play the violin.
As a society, we've reached the point where we embrace stupidity, blame others for our own stupidity, and actually teach stupidity. It's not going to end well.

 

[rommelrommel]

But aren't all the "Q" posts from anons on 8chan and 4chan? So it could literally be many different people claiming to be Q?

No, there are tripcodes that indicate one person or group of persons made the actual Q posts, at least for the initial round of posts. The codes may have been compromised later on, but the first two years or so was likely one person/group.

 

[cytg111]

The fellows I chat with think the flat earth idea is stupid.

Vaccines? Deep state? Aliens? Pizza gate? Sandy Hook?

 

[Greenman]

Vaccines? Deep state? Aliens? Pizza gate? Sandy Hook?

The deep state is the one that gets all the attention. By the definition they use there is absolutely a deep state, the Supreme Court fits the definition.

 

[IronWing]

The deep state is simply the parts of the government that the person using the phrase doesn’t like. It’s the modern equivalent of “the establishment”.

 

[Greenman]

The deep state is simply the parts of the government that the person using the phrase doesn’t like. It’s the modern equivalent of “the establishment”.

In the context I've seen it used, it's government employees that create regulation with the power of law.

 

[brycejones]

In the context I've seen it used, it's government employees that create regulation with the power of law.

Regulations created within the context of the powers granted by congress to those employees in support of the laws passed by congress. The "deep state" thing is such bull shit.

 

[fskimospy]

Regulations created within the context of the powers granted by congress to those employees in support of the laws passed by congress. The "deep state" thing is such bull shit.

Yes another word for 'the deep state' is 'federal employees doing what the elected branches of government told them to do'.

Congress ORDERED those employees to create regulations in that manner!

 

[Pohemi]

When Donnie first started using the phrase, "deep state", he used it to imply not just the establishment politicians but this supposed secretive, conspiratorial shadow government that nobody else knew about or wanted to talk about.

Many of his (less intelligent) followers believed or at least pretended that he had somehow uncovered all of this himself, and was fighting the "good fight". It was just another catchphrase lie that elevated his perceived character for them.

It was all bullshit, of course.

 

[fskimospy]

When Donnie first started using the phrase, "deep state", it implied not just establishment politicians but this supposed secretive, conspiratorial shadow government that nobody else knew about or wanted to talk about.

Many of his (less intelligent) followers believed or at least pretended that he had somehow uncovered all of this himself, and was fighting the "good fight". It was just another ruse that elevated his perceived character for them.

It was all bullshit, of course.

I tend to think of it more as the normal bureaucratic inertia that exists in all large organizations, public and private.

I know where I have worked in my life the amount of time it takes to do a task the staff thinks is a good idea and the amount of time it takes to do a task the staff thinks is a bad idea can vary considerably. It was the same thing with Trump - he proposed a bunch of crazy shit and the institutional bureaucracy slow walked some of it. This is not remotely new anywhere on earth.

 

[Pohemi]

Sure, that makes sense.

I could of course be mistaken as to his intention of definition he was trying to imply, but...he used the term to suggest how the "deep state government" members were all bought and paid for, and they were all out to get him.

That's why I suggested that he was using it to refer to the supposed conspiracy shadow government as opposed to just establishment politicians. Again...I could of course be wrong about it, but I was making an educated estimation of his intended meaning, instead of our ideas of what it means to us personally.

 

[nakedfrog]

I mentioned Jewish space lasers, I was called an anti-Semite.

It odd that out in the real world I'm the same guy I am on the web, and I get along with pretty much everyone. But here in the pretend world I piss off the far left and the far right. That actually makes me smile.

What far right people have you pissed off here?

 

[Greenman]

What far right people have you pissed off here?

Is there anyone from the far right that posts here?

 

[brycejones]

Is there anyone from the far right that posts here?

Hell is there anyone from the "far left" who posts here?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

When Donnie first started using the phrase, "deep state", he used it to imply not just the establishment politicians but this supposed secretive, conspiratorial shadow government that nobody else knew about or wanted to talk about.

Many of his (less intelligent) followers believed or at least pretended that he had somehow uncovered all of this himself, and was fighting the "good fight". It was just another catchphrase lie that elevated his perceived character for them.

It was all bullshit, of course.

There is in fact, something to it. There is a level of money and power brokers that decide things for us. They decide who we vote for, simply by deciding who to support and finance. And it probably isn't any of the names bandied about, Koch, Soros, Gates, Bezos, Murdoch, etc. It's the old money people that most people don't know. The people behind the oil companies, investment and acquisition firms, defense contractors and so on and not all from any one country. They are the people guys like McConnell play up to. They are the people pulling the strings of events like Davos.

Call me nuts if you will, but groups like The Skull and Bones, Masons, (many we've never heard of), etc. don't have secret meetings for nothing.

There IS an underground whether you care to accept it or not.

 

[Stokely]

I can't speak to that. It did turn out that there was a more mundane "Deep State", thankfully. It consisted of people wanting to actually do their damn jobs that their dept was created for, and not to bend to the whims of a wannabe tinpot authoritarian clod. Trump was blunted by it quite a bit and it's a very good thing. A lot of this came out after his first term was up.

He knows it, and I reckon his next term if he wins he'll do a "better" job of clearing out anyone with any sense of duty to anything and anyone other than him. There's going to be a purge and he'll be able to take revenge on anyone and everything that "wronged" him. If he wins and I'm Jack Smith or Judge Erdogan or any of those folks, I'd get the hell out of the country asap.

 

[hal2kilo]

Regulations created within the context of the powers granted by congress to those employees in support of the laws passed by congress. The "deep state" thing is such bull shit.

With the exception that the "swamp" gets interchanged with this concept which are really apples and oranges. To me the swamp is the "lobby" cesspool. Lobby includes things like what Sen. Menedez would like to claim that's really all he was doing.