Is MAC filtering good enough for 802.11g?

edwardhchan

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I've set up my wireless network and have a question for y'all... Is MAC filtering "good enough" for a home network? I tried using WEP and WPA, but found that it REALLY hurt transfer speed... I'm pretty sure my neighbors won't be able to casually steal my bandwidth, but what about the more experienced hacker? Can he figure out and clone one of my 2 MACs registered in my router?

TIA

Ed
 

jjyiz28

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i've read that its possible to spoof mac addresses from your internal network. but im thinking you could use a firewall to block these so called mac addreses if it comes from the outside network rather than in. so , yes if you use a good firewall. just a guess
 

ToxicWaste

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MAC filtering will keep all the honest people out. It will keep out the lazy dishonest people too. But it won't deter someone who wants in and knows what they are doing.

If you really are just worried about your neighbors stealing internet access from you, then MAC filtering is probably good enough.

I don't notice a penalty for WEP, so I do both WEP and MAC filtering, I'm suprised you notice a performance hit. If you really want to be secure WPA is the best you can do, for now.
 

sciencewhiz

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are you worried about your neighbors stealing your bandwidth, or stealing your information?
 

edwardhchan

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I'm concerned about both problems...

The problem with turning on WEP or WPA seems to be that I have some intereference between my router and main computer (they're in different rooms). If my 2.4GHz phone is any indication, when I walk into my computer room, I get a lot of interference for some reason...

Luckily, I live in a rather sparse neighborhood, and knowing my neighbors, they're not a problem. Of course, someone who happens to drive around could probably intercept my unencrypted transmissions, and that's my main question... Does WEP prevent someone from "listening" to my network traffic, or does it just provide authentication into the router?

Ed
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: edwardhchan
I'm concerned about both problems...

The problem with turning on WEP or WPA seems to be that I have some intereference between my router and main computer (they're in different rooms). If my 2.4GHz phone is any indication, when I walk into my computer room, I get a lot of interference for some reason...

Luckily, I live in a rather sparse neighborhood, and knowing my neighbors, they're not a problem. Of course, someone who happens to drive around could probably intercept my unencrypted transmissions, and that's my main question... Does WEP prevent someone from "listening" to my network traffic, or does it just provide authentication into the router?

Ed

Change the channel on the radio.
 

ScottMac

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WEP (and WPA) encrypt the signal (except the maintenance traffic). Anything captured "off the air" will be unreadable (crackable from a captured file, but not readable in real-time).

MAC filtering will prevent non-spoofed traffic from entering your wireless network, but all transmissions can be caught and read in (near) real-time ... and/or can be saved to a file and browsed later.

Since the MAC of the client is in clear-text, capturing some transmissions and stealing the MAC for spoofing is fairly easy.

WPA changes the key periodically, hopefully faster than it takes to break the current key (by the time the key is cracked, the active key has changed). SO it's possible (though unlikely for the common twit) that the traffic can be captured and later decrypted ... each chunk would have to be decrypted with the key that was active at the time.

Another step towards securing your wireless would be to turn off "Broadcast SSID." Without a broadcast SSID, the twits will have to guess (or capture the whole spectrum and guess) what your "circuit ID" is. Since you know what it is, and it won't be broadcast, you'll have to manually enter the SSID for each client. It doesn't make it unbreakable, but it does increase the difficulty somewhat ... another layer of (minor) pain. The Idea is that the twits will move on to a softer target (and Lawd knows, there's more than a few of those).

FWIW

Scott