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Peelback79

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I quit watching when he got to the part about how our government is going to spend it's way out of debt. I thought you got smarter in college.
 
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: lokiju
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
It's unrealistic to expect to not pay any taxes but expect any government services whatsoever (police, roads, military, etc).

At the same time though, people shouldn't be expected to be over-burdened by not just taxes but by tax compliance, government spending, and government interference.

What about all the double taxing also?

We all pay income tax, social security tax, medicare tax, then we get taxed when you buy nearly everything.

When you factor in all points of taxes everyone is paying a lot higher of a % in taxes than it seems on paper when looking at just income tax.

Where does it end?

Where is to much and where is to little?

Those are the things it seems (to me) most have issue with.

I don't personally know anyone that thinks there should be no tax, just more specific taxes that cover things like police, roads, military, etc.

Yep. The current tax code is a byzantine maze of 700,000+ pages or rules, regulations, exemptions, exceptions and growing fast. How can we, as Americans, be expected to keep up? We can't. We end up losing billions of hours of productivity and billions of dollars simply to tax compliance.

Let's not even get into how politicians use the tax code for social engineering purposes, or as payoffs to contributors, or as a way to consolidate their power. Or how much of our tax money is lost because of corruption, waste, and incompetence. And yet all the government beast ever wants is more, more, more, more.

Oh, and if you think taxes won't be going up...guess again. How do you think we are going to pay off this Massive Deficit Spending Orgy that is projected out for the next 10 years.

...we don't really know where the tax money goes...

it is not about wanting to pay taxes or not...it is about being over-taxed...and using that tax money to support the rich guys who f*d up the poor.

and i think it is "american" to complain about taxes...we have that right...our country was founded by complaining about taxes...