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Lifer
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Not at all!

1) Begin job hunt without telling current employer.
2) Get a job offer.
3) If new job is offering more $$$, tell your current employer, and see if they'll compete.
4) If not, leave and start new job.

 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Like apply to a company just to see if you can get the job, and see if the pay and benefits are better?

Do you think they'd tell you ahead of time if they were planning on laying you off? Or do you think you'd be the last to know?

good point guys....

This is why companies invented the "two week notice" policy. It is typically customary to give you employer at least 2 weeks notice before leaving your job (AFTER you have already secured a start date for your new job of course. . .) Of course this 2 week notice rule only applies when you are planning on leaving them. They afford you no such luxury if they are planning on giving you the axe. So I say F-them. Do what you have to.
 

PatboyX

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i dont think there is anything wrong with it.
especially if you are in a relativly easily filled position.
otherwise, it may be to your benefit to let them know...could light a fire under their ass about keeping you.
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
I'm jobhunting and my manager knows nothing of it.

So what do you do when they want to contact your "previous" employer?
 

casper114

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Hell no, in fact I would recommend the hunt BEFORE telling your current employer. When you find one tell your employer that 'a' way you can tell them when you found one.... and let the bargaining begin!
 

serialkiller

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Originally posted by: casper114
Hell no, in fact I would recommend the hunt BEFORE telling your current employer. When you find one tell your employer that 'a' way you can tell them when you found one.... and let the bargaining begin!

Bargaining huh? How successful does those usually go?
 

fleshconsumed

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No, simply because the company is not going to give you any notice should they consider the possibility of firing you, why should you let them know you are looking for another job?
 

AreaCode707

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It's appropriate to look without telling your employer, because you never know how serious you are about leaving until you've looked around.

I have a good relationship with my boss, so the few times I've looked around, I've usually told her I'm looking, and told her why. It's actually helped me resolve issues at my current job sometimes.
 

Ranger X

Lifer
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Just remember that there is no such thing as company loyalty. A company will not hesitate to lay you off and some companies won't tell you that they're laying you off until morning before you have to clean out your desk. It's fair game and you should be looking out for yourself and not for the benefit of the company.
 

drsafety

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no one mentioned this, it might seem kind of obvious, but don't email/search for jobs while at work, if your sh!t is scanned it may show up and your manager could find out.
 

Tazanator

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as stated in many ways the company has no loyalty to you they only have loyalty to their profit margin. If your company is different than try to stay but I have never been give a 2 week notice they are laying me off/firing me in over 20 years of working. It may have made me bitter but If the company protocol is "profits are #1" where does empoyee loyalty factor in when you know you will be the first to get screwed so the CEO can get a bigger pay raise. On rare occasions you may find someplace that does place employees high, if you get this lucky try to stay there! (Duh..)
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
How do you go to an interview without them calling your current employer? =

Why would they though? Unless you state in your resume that you are no longer working they have no reason to call your current employer. Just call in sick one day and go to the interview. :)
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
How do you go to an interview without them calling your current employer? =

They won't call unless you tell them they can. Explain the situation and no worries.

 

serialkiller

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Originally posted by: oddyager
Originally posted by: serialkiller
How do you go to an interview without them calling your current employer? =

Why would they though? Unless you state in your resume that you are no longer working they have no reason to call your current employer. Just call in sick one day and go to the interview. :)

oh i see, one sick day wont cover me going out of state.. hahaha
 

Plasdom

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If you are treated right (paid competitively for your profession etc) then it probably is a bad idea. If not, great idea. When you do get a job offer which pays better, then you can use that as leverage to request for an increase in salary
 

oddyager

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Originally posted by: drsafety
no one mentioned this, it might seem kind of obvious, but don't email/search for jobs while at work, if your sh!t is scanned it may show up and your manager could find out.

Yeah this is true. Unless your IT supervisor is as clueless as mine is, save the searches at home and not at work!
 

serialkiller

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well, all in all there is alot to be leveraged.... I just wanted to see what they can offer since a recruiter contacted me after a long long time....

How much do R&D people make?