Is it wrong to cook live animals for a meal?

[loup garou]

Also, gopunk, I'm assuming you've never filleted a fish. Many are filleted alive.

EDIT: Excellent post, Nemesis.

 

[Nemesis77]

<< EDIT: Excellent post, Nemesis. >>



Thanks . I live to please

 

[her209]

Its better than lopping off a chicken's head and having the body running around blood squirting everywhere until it finally dies of blood loss.

Thus the expression "..running around like a headless chicken."

BTW, they taste SUPER good fresh (chickens I mean).

 

[SHoddyCOmp]

Some meats taste good, others just plain suck, I wish I could be a vegetarian. Doubt I could ever completely pull it off though for any significant length of time without going back to my favorite burger place (InNOut)
Edit for spelling

 

[b0mbrman]

Yeah...this is making me hungry for crab too...but failing that, I think I'll just have some smoked salmon for lunch...

 

[shiner]

<< have you ever seen deer? >>


Yep, kill at least one a year. They can be quite mean creatures if you don't kill them in one shot. I always try to off them in one shot because I do feel a bit sorry for them, for like a nanosecond, if I have to slit their throat to finish them off. Taste good though.....mmmm...venison.....droooool......

 

[Stiler]

argh......not going to comment...oh HELL YES I WILL-

So all of you think that "oh for the better taste lets kill them by boiling them alive, hey its the most humane way, your all fvcking crazy.
i wish one day each of you would get stranded in some wildnerness and all the animals would attack you all.

 

[her209]

<< argh......not going to comment...oh HELL YES I WILL-

So all of you think that "oh for the better taste lets kill them by boiling them alive, hey its the most humane way, your all fvcking crazy.
i wish one day each of you would get stranded in some wildnerness and all the animals would attack you all. >>



Maybe we should put you in the woods and teach you something about the food chain.

 

[rml]

I remember reading an article that said people eat money's briain by just cutting a hole of the head and pour hot oil to cook the brain of a LIVE monkey. I hope it is a hoax

Check out what kind of small animal these people eat.
http://berclo.net/page97/97en-china-1.html

 

[gopunk]

Do you think people do that frequently?

no, i thought i had made that clear, but i guess not.

 

[gopunk]

So I fail to see why putting live crabs and/or lobsters in boiling water is somehow wrong, since that IS the best way to kill them as quickly as possible. Other ways of killing them would cause them more suffering than boiling them alive does.

the question is not about only crabs or lobsters... and didn't i already said it would be fine as long as they don't feel pain? you're arguing against a point that doens't exist.

 

[gopunk]

<< Also, gopunk, I'm assuming you've never filleted a fish. Many are filleted alive. >>



that would be correct, i haven't.

 

[Nefrodite]

<< Either being swallowed whole and liquefied alive by lower-intelect octopus' digesting enzymes or being boiled by higher intellect, there must be a cabal from all levels of intellect against crabs. >>




actually octopus are one of the smartest of the critters in the ocean pretty much not as smart as us ofcourse.


You think cooking crabs is disturbing... cook a lobster. if you put them in a steamer they actually scream


well sorta, i've heard its just air rapidly escaping their shells, since they dont' have vocal chords



oh, wait didn't people on fear factor eat live worms or something? i remember one of my science teachers at some bugs alive!

 

[Dudd]

Does it really matter? If I eat beef, the cow has been killed somewhere along the line, so I don't think it matters if you kill it right before you eat it. If you have a moral repulsion towards eating animals, then I can respect that, it's what you believe. I don't think that way, for me, the more meat, the better. But, for someone to eat, say, a steak from a store but not a lobster because somehow the steak is more "humane", that, frankly, strikes me as being insane. It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

 

[gopunk]

It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive?

 

[joohang]

<< Saw this show where a guy ate a live octopus. Had to chew and slurp at the same time, not pretty considering there was ink all over and it was trying to get out of his mouth. It's some Korean thing. >>


That's a pretty "common" dish in Korea. It is well-known as a "dish that fights back in your mouth".

 

[Nemesis77]

<< It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive? >>



No-one is suggesting that. People don't have thje means to effectively and humanely kill a cow, so we let slaughterhouses take care of that. But we do have the means to kill lobsters and crabs efficiently and humanely, so there's no problem in killing them just before they are eaten. Of course we must look each case individually. I have no problem killing crabs or lobsters py dropping them in boiling water. I do have a problem of eating half-cooked animal that's still alive.

If the animal is killed efficiently and humanely, I have no problems when it comes to the time of the killing nor the means. As long as it's humane.

 

[Jimbo]

<< so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive? >>


Oh man, thanks for the idea! That would be awesome.
How would you get it to stand still in the BBQ?

 

[gopunk]

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<< It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive? >>



No-one is suggesting that. >>




well, he just did... "If I eat beef, the cow has been killed somewhere along the line, so I don't think it matters if you kill it right before you eat it.... It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?"

People don't have thje means to effectively and humanely kill a cow, so we let slaughterhouses take care of that. But we do have the means to kill lobsters and crabs efficiently and humanely, so there's no problem in killing them just before they are eaten. Of course we must look each case individually. I have no problem killing crabs or lobsters py dropping them in boiling water. I do have a problem of eating half-cooked animal that's still alive.

If the animal is killed efficiently and humanely, I have no problems when it comes to the time of the killing nor the means. As long as it's humane.

then we're in agreement...

 

[Dudd]

<< It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive? >>



Not really. If it was possible for ordinary people to take a cow, stick it in a machine, and out pops all the meat nicely cooked, I wouldn't really have a problem with it. It's simply easier to get it from a store.

 

[sheselectric]

<< For some reason, torturing animals solely so they would taste better nullifies you from being considered a creature that possesses higher intellect. >>



i agree 100%.

 

[gopunk]

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<< It's going to die sooner or later, so what's the difference if it dies in a slaughter house or in a pot on your stove?

so you would have no problem cooking a cow alive? >>



Not really. If it was possible for ordinary people to take a cow, stick it in a machine, and out pops all the meat nicely cooked, I wouldn't really have a problem with it. It's simply easier to get it from a store. >>




so let me ask you then, would you rather die by getting your head cut off in one swift motion, or would you rather die by being cooked to death?

 

[Dudd]

While we're on this subject of killing cows to eat them, does anyone else think that the best Simpson's opening segment is the one where they go to the steakhouse and pick out their own live cow? Everytime I see that, I just about die laughing. Ah well, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Dudd]

Just to make myself clear, I wouldn't just fry the cow up alive. Obviously the machine would have to somehow kill it before cooking it. Gas it, knock it out like before an operation, something before then killing it, removing the meat, and then cooking it. If it would be just like the slaughter, just in my kitchen, I wouldn't really have a problem. Of course, this is all hypothetical, considering that there are very good reasons why we have slaughterhouses. Less messy for the end user, more efficient use for the meat (what one person would ever serve the meat from an entire cow?), simply less time consuming. That's all I'm saying. If the same death occurs in my home and in the slaughterhouse, neither one is "better", just simply at different times.

 

[Nemesis77]

<< so let me ask you then, would you rather die by getting your head cut off in one swift motion, or would you rather die by being cooked to death? >>



For me, it doesn't really matter. Cutting my head off would kill me instantly. Dropping me in to boiling water would cause instant shock, which would cause me to not feel any pain, and I would die few seconds after that.