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Attrox

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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: shimsham
how about a link to the article with those #s?
it's in the posts above...i'm not your secretary.
should read the posts while you are at it :D

You aren't the U.S Treasurer either :D
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how even in times like this, when the US does so much, anti-americanism still shines. :roll:
not anti US...pro-US.

I want to work with the US to maintain a good reputation and respect.
It's been a rough few years for the US's on these fronts...this is an opportunity to show the US's true colors.

$150billion on war. 0.3billion on saving lives and limiting disease?
Am i the only one seeing an inbalance.
go work on the NHL
I hate hockey...but thanks for the stereotype...go watch nascar.
now we are getting to the bottom of it.

what do you really have against the U.S.? did your VISA not got approved?

bottom of what stereotypes?
i have nothing against the US. We are very similar nations and are good allies.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how even in times like this, when the US does so much, anti-americanism still shines. :roll:
not anti US...pro-US.

I want to work with the US to maintain a good reputation and respect.
It's been a rough few years for the US's on these fronts...this is an opportunity to show the US's true colors.

$150billion on war. 0.3billion on saving lives and limiting disease?
Am i the only one seeing an inbalance.

Yup, let's spend all of our resources to help and leave the US vulnerable to attack.
No no, everyone will really appreciate it and nobody would want to attack us anymore :disgust:
How is giving aid and donations going to make the US vulnerable to an attack?
guess what will happen to your cushy ass right above us if we were to get attacked because we gave every last penny of ours away like you'd have it?

 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: shimsham
how about a link to the article with those #s?
it's in the posts above...i'm not your secretary.
should read the posts while you are at it :D

You aren't the U.S Treasurer either :D


you make the claims, you provide the links. i went back and checked your initial post on page 1 that had your numbers, and found no link.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how even in times like this, when the US does so much, anti-americanism still shines. :roll:
not anti US...pro-US.

I want to work with the US to maintain a good reputation and respect.
It's been a rough few years for the US's on these fronts...this is an opportunity to show the US's true colors.

$150billion on war. 0.3billion on saving lives and limiting disease?
Am i the only one seeing an inbalance.
go work on the NHL
I hate hockey...but thanks for the stereotype...go watch nascar.
now we are getting to the bottom of it.

what do you really have against the U.S.? did your VISA not got approved?

bottom of what stereotypes?
i have nothing against the US. We are very similar nations and are good allies.
i never said the bottom of a stereotype. i meant the bottom of the reason why you are a U.S.A. hater.

 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Aimster
P&N has come to off-topic. So the disease spreads.
Hehe...yeah i know...off topic is a free for all anyways.

But you have to admit that the thread was destined to get into funding...
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: shimsham
how about a link to the article with those #s?
it's in the posts above...i'm not your secretary.
should read the posts while you are at it :D
over half of your links didn't work
They were copy and pasted from the link...sigh...
go read the link.
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: shimsham
how about a link to the article with those #s?
it's in the posts above...i'm not your secretary.
should read the posts while you are at it :D

You aren't the U.S Treasurer either :D
Heh...nope that i am not.
probably a good thing for you...as you don't seem to want to increase funding...
I'd probably bring it up to less than half of the spending per person that the other 1st world countries are doing.
But i must be more compassionate than the people here.
 

ZOXXO

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Feb 1, 2003
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Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Attrox
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: shimsham
how about a link to the article with those #s?
it's in the posts above...i'm not your secretary.
should read the posts while you are at it :D

You aren't the U.S Treasurer either :D
Heh...nope that i am not.
probably a good thing for you...as you don't seem to want to increase funding...
I'd probably bring it up to less than half of the spending per person that the other 1st world countries are doing.
But i must be more compassionate than the people here.
you have all the answers. i think your country needs you.

 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how even in times like this, when the US does so much, anti-americanism still shines. :roll:
not anti US...pro-US.

I want to work with the US to maintain a good reputation and respect.
It's been a rough few years for the US's on these fronts...this is an opportunity to show the US's true colors.

$150billion on war. 0.3billion on saving lives and limiting disease?
Am i the only one seeing an inbalance.
go work on the NHL
I hate hockey...but thanks for the stereotype...go watch nascar.
now we are getting to the bottom of it.

what do you really have against the U.S.? did your VISA not got approved?

bottom of what stereotypes?
i have nothing against the US. We are very similar nations and are good allies.
i never said the bottom of a stereotype. i meant the bottom of the reason why you are a U.S.A. hater.
I am a US hater?
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: ZOXXO
Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
i friggin told him over and over that his country's monies were noted in CANADIAN CURRENCY

there Stunt - go do the math now http://www.bank-banque-canada.ca/en/exchform.htm

Date: ........... 1 in Canadian dollars equals: Exchange rate:
31 Dec 2004 ... 0.83 US dollars (noon) 0.8308 (1.2036)

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I love how even in times like this, when the US does so much, anti-americanism still shines. :roll:
not anti US...pro-US.

I want to work with the US to maintain a good reputation and respect.
It's been a rough few years for the US's on these fronts...this is an opportunity to show the US's true colors.

$150billion on war. 0.3billion on saving lives and limiting disease?
Am i the only one seeing an inbalance.
go work on the NHL
I hate hockey...but thanks for the stereotype...go watch nascar.
now we are getting to the bottom of it.

what do you really have against the U.S.? did your VISA not got approved?

bottom of what stereotypes?
i have nothing against the US. We are very similar nations and are good allies.
i never said the bottom of a stereotype. i meant the bottom of the reason why you are a U.S.A. hater.
I am a US hater?
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.

 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: ZOXXO
Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
Suspension of debt is a cash contribution.
Also it is vague whether the military operations are included in the stated $350million allocated.

Neither of us know...but if you can find that out...that would help.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
Suspension of debt is a cash contribution.
Also it is vague whether the military operations are included in the stated $350million allocated.

Neither of us know...but if you can find that out...that would help.
:thumbsdown:

 

Stunt

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
i friggin told him over and over that his country's monies were noted in CANADIAN CURRENCY

there Stunt - go do the math now http://www.bank-banque-canada.ca/en/exchform.htm

Date: ........... 1 in Canadian dollars equals: Exchange rate:
31 Dec 2004 0.83 US dollars (noon) 0.8308 (1.2036)

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/cgi-bin/famecgi_fdps

Do i have to re-link this stuff for you???
Donations.
Donations from canada are
CAD 164.2m (?49m, USD 136m), CAD 40.3m (USD 33.3), including CAD 36.3m (USD 30m), plus CAD 3.75m (USD 3.1m) from business, plus CAD 250k (USD 206.7k) from unions

so i dont need currency calculators thank you very much.
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.
you are right, i would be envious of a country with the ability to lead and give significant aid to ones who despirately need it right now.
But in terms of lifestyle and opportunities...i'm quite happy right here...i dont see much more that the US could offer me. But who knows i may move to the US later in life. I have always liked the country. Very similar to mine :)
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.
you are right, i would be envious of a country with the ability to lead and give significant aid to ones who despirately need it right now.
But in terms of lifestyle and opportunities...i'm quite happy right here...i dont see much more that the US could offer me. But who knows i may move to the US later in life. I have always liked the country. Very similar to mine :)

yeh, i live an hour from you. and thank God the Canadian friends i have don't have your attitude.
also, you still didn't read the article i linked. we are continuing to give more and more. it takes time to release funds after the initial that was set aside has ALL been given.
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.
you are right, i would be envious of a country with the ability to lead and give significant aid to ones who despirately need it right now.
But in terms of lifestyle and opportunities...i'm quite happy right here...i dont see much more that the US could offer me. But who knows i may move to the US later in life. I have always liked the country. Very similar to mine :)

yeh, i live an hour from you. and thank God the Canadian friends i have don't have your attitude.
I have an attitude?..jeez you are full of assumptions tonight...hockey, US hater...
Any other incorrect things to say?...
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.
you are right, i would be envious of a country with the ability to lead and give significant aid to ones who despirately need it right now.
But in terms of lifestyle and opportunities...i'm quite happy right here...i dont see much more that the US could offer me. But who knows i may move to the US later in life. I have always liked the country. Very similar to mine :)

yeh, i live an hour from you. and thank God the Canadian friends i have don't have your attitude.
I have an attitude?..jeez you are full of assumptions tonight...hockey, US hater...
Any other incorrect things to say?...
yep, faulting the U.S. for the money we have given and will give.
it's petty rhetoric.

so i mentioned hockey.... big deal. next i'lll mention beer :p

 

ZOXXO

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Feb 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: ZOXXO
Stunt, your figure of 6.8 per capita is in Canadian dollars and includes 30-40 million in the form of a debt moratorium.

Why do you wish to include a suspension in payment of debt in Canada's contribution yet choose to ignore the non cash contributions from the US?

From the page you linked:

The United States has dispatched two C-5 Galaxy strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, a amphibious battlegroup led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. All these ships carry a total of 29 helicopters to assist in relief support, and each ship can produce 90,000 gallons of fresh water per day.

Does it not fit your agenda?
Suspension of debt is a cash contribution.
Also it is vague whether the military operations are included in the stated $350million allocated.

Neither of us know...but if you can find that out...that would help.


Canada is not declaring the debt paid but rather allowing them to skip a few payments until they get back on their feet, so to speak. While commendable it's not a direct cash contribution.

Considering all the other cash totals are itemized it seems quite clear to me the equipment and manpower sent to the region is not included in the cash totals for the US.
 

FleshLight

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Why does everyone get into a pissing contest when it comes to Tsunami donations? They aren't really donations either, more like Bush taking $$ out of the General Tax Fund. But anyways, as a country, we aren't obligated to send aid, but we still do. Who cares if country X only donates $350m while Y donates $80m...
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
obviously.... maybe not a hater.... that is a bit harsh, i'll change that to envious.
you are right, i would be envious of a country with the ability to lead and give significant aid to ones who despirately need it right now.
But in terms of lifestyle and opportunities...i'm quite happy right here...i dont see much more that the US could offer me. But who knows i may move to the US later in life. I have always liked the country. Very similar to mine :)

yeh, i live an hour from you. and thank God the Canadian friends i have don't have your attitude.
I have an attitude?..jeez you are full of assumptions tonight...hockey, US hater...
Any other incorrect things to say?...
yep, faulting the U.S. for the money we have given and will give.
it's petty rhetoric.

so i mentioned hockey.... big deal. next i'lll mention beer :p

Everyone loves beer!!
that's an easy guess:)

i'm not faulting the US. I'm just pointing out it is an excellent opportunity to show the world how you are leaders, arent just all about war. Can help those in need, and really make a difference.

You still havent mentioned how much you think the US should participate in the disaster.